Who remember this swiss formula 1 driver ?
He try very hard at Syracuse, International Trophy at Siverstone and in Grand prix de Solitude in 1964 on this Cooper T60.
What happend to him ? and where is the car now ?

Here:

http://www.transvalair.com/ourhistory.htm

You could also try 'Search BB'

At which circuit was the photo in the first post taken?

Probably not a circuit - he used the car mainly for hillclimbs

it was Lure hillclimb in 64

The Book "Die Aussenseiter" has a 3 big page biography on him as well as 50 oyher Swiss drivers with hundreds of picturers!

A few notes about this car...

It is the second Cooper T60 chassis -- 'F1-18-61'. In 1962 (its debut year) it was raced by Tony Maggs and Bruce McLaren as a works Cooper. In this car Maggs became second in Grand Prix de l'A.C.F., and third in the South African Grand Prix, while Bruce won Reims GP and finished third in the Italian GP. For 1963 the chassis was bought by Rob Walker, and Jo Bonnier raced it throughout the season; the best result of the car was the 4th place at Enna-Pergusa. In 1964 Jean-Claude Rudaz became its owner. As we see on the picture the car wasn't repainted and continued to race in R.R.C. Walker Racing Team colour scheme. Unfortunately after 1964 I haven't found what happend to this car.

Wrong , the car was repainted ! It became red instead of Walker blue ! Formula 1 in camera 1960-69 by Paul Parker shows a fine colour picture ! Rudaz also used an old modified Saurer bus painted red with the name Rudaz Racing Team on the door in the back of it. Frenchman Urbain Fabre did help out , but only with paperwork/as an entrant. Car was owned and prepared by Rudaz himself.

I haven't encountered this book before. Sounds v. interesting. Are copies still available?

DCN

same question : Do you know the translation of the title in French or in English ?

http://www.die-aussenseiter.ch

I saw a copy at a fellow TNFer's home in Germany last year. Big, heavy, coffee-table kind of book with beautiful photos, but also with good, informative German text.

Well, if so then b/w picture with that typical Walker's white nose band played a bad joke! Of course on b/w photo it's impossible to distinguish those colours...

Any chances to see the colour picture (or/and the three-page biography) you mentioned?

Regarding the colour of the car, it was repainted, probably in summer 1964, light blue as Trintignant's BRM. May be because of the Fabre involvment.

A place to say something about books post 1612 : 500 pages ,hardbound, halfglazed paper ,1000 pictures b/w(most) and colour CHfr. 119,- Die Aussenseiter (the outsiders in English text in German)
Schweizer im internationalen rennsport v1950 bis heute(2006) Over 50 biographies ,

dieaussenseiter.chvorschau.php - perhaps this site still is showing 24 pages and 50 pictures of the book or www.dieaussenseiter.ch
No problem bying from Baeschlin Office - office@baeschlin.ch

Thanks.
Who was Urbain Fabre ? Does he was a sponsor ?

Garage owner from Marseilles whose garage/company change name at least for 4 times in the years 60 +/- and at the time of supporting Rudaz was called Ecurie Competition Mediteranee , even though his name as an entrant for Rudaz stood as Fabre Urbain in all reports. I believe most of us know by now it is/was Urbain Fabre. The company names and changes I found on a french co. site wich I cant remmember the name of. Sorry!Urbain Fabre was NOT a sponsor , he supported Rudaz , please read post 9 again.

Gérard,

The question of Urbain Fabre and his involvments with Jean-Claude Rudaz, Ecurie Méditerranée or Ecurie Compétition Méditerranée has been discussed in this previous thread already :

http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php...2ab9bb04ea81f33

No definitive conclusion however and I'm still interested in further infos myself. To add confusion, it seems that entries for other drivers (Jean Rolland in F2 for instance) were made under the Ecurie Urbain Fabre name !

So we have 5 distinct and possible names for the team/entrant of J.C. Rudaz and his Cooper in 1964 :

- Rudaz Racing Team (of which I have just discovered the existence - thank you my dear Bjorn)
- Fabre Urbain (but it was a typo mistake)
- Ecurie Urbain Fabre
- Ecurie Méditerranée
- Ecurie Compétition Méditerranée

What a headache for me !

Welcome back on TNF, Ph!!

Urbain Fabre also entered Raymond Thollon apart from Jean Rolland for the Monaco F3 race in 1965, both in Alpines.

If I remember well, Jean Rolland was trying hard with an Alpine...Formula 3

Oh...and Rudaz was also racing for Rene Bonnet in 1964. At Clermont-Ferrand most definately in the Tr. d'Auvergne meeting.

Alpine F3 , you are both right Marius and Gérard . Sorry for my mistake.

and LM and Tde F in 1964 for Bonnet , sorry I forgot !

TG your advice came up with nothing/"no thread specified"! The tread name is :

Exact "registered" names of F1 teams , 1960-61 ? (right TG ?)

Right, Bjorn !

Two other points :

- There is another photo of Rudaz and his Cooper in Maurice Louche's book Mont-Ventoux , but it is b&w.

- J.C. Rudaz appears in the 1964 Syracuse GP video of John Tate (in colour), but not at the wheel of his car unfortunately. I don't remember if the starting grid was filmed and if the Cooper was visible on it then.

Jean-Claude Rudaz was team mate of Roland Charrière and Robert Bouharde in the René Bonnet Formula 2 team for the Charade race. (He replace for this race the third man of the team who was Gérard Laureau).

I've a pic of this René Bonnet F2 with Renault Gordini engine underpowered (take at Pau F2 64)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gerard Gamand
Jean-Claude Rudaz was team mate of Roland Charrière and Robert Bouharde in the René Bonnet Formula 2 team for the Charade race. (He replace for this race the third man of the team who was Gérard Laureau).

I've a pic of this René Bonnet F2 with Renault Gordini engine underpowered (take at Pau F2 64)

[/QUOTE

This race on 19 July 1964 was quite a memorable one for Charriere. Patrice Besqueut describes it nicely, "Le jour de la gloire pour Roland: courir en F2 a Charade face aux meilleurs pilotes mondiaux. Un grand souvenir pour le piltoe clermontois".

...and this was also the race meeting where Patrick Depailler for the first time ever competed in a car race. Driving the Loutus Super Seven in the Coupe des Provinces.

Sorry again TG here are answers to the rest of your Qs. Rudaz ran out of money in 64 but "put" a maserati engine in the Cooper , winning at least one hillclimb in 65 and then had an accident (stuck throttle) from wich he escaped unhurt , but the car BURNED OUT. After that he travelled to Congo , starting rock bottom as a dishwasher , and ending as an Aeroplane pilot , political reasons forcing him out a couple of years later. Then being a Captain , and co/builder of an aeroplane corp. , in 1983 he wrote a book on all his flying (he had over 22.500 flying hours) , still flyes but has retired.

Infos from the book "Die Aussenseiter"

I have also a pic of Robert Bouharde on the René Bonnet F2 at Trophées d'Auvergne 64

Look at the wheels, their are the same as the Matra F3 of 65.
Matra buy the whole business of René Bonnet during the winter and decide to begin the construction of a monocoque.
Since this date, the story was in progress for the french racing history and Jean-Pierre Beltoise with the first win in Reims.

here, a pic of the first victory of Jean-Pierre Beltoise on the Matra at Reims

Just in case someone would like to see this, here is the photo stuff of Patrick Depailler's first motor race:

And also a list of all Patrick's Motor Races compiled by Marius Matthee (Hieronymus): http://www.forix.com/txt/artic/depailler_stat.htm

great pic thanks

Yes, thanks...but the information on this website is hopelessly outdated and somewhat of an embarressment at this stage. Updated version and full bio of Depailler is available to anyone that is interested...

PS. I presume this is not a sideline job of our friend J-C Rudaz???

www.rudazpaysagiste.ch

Thanks for this Bjørn, it matches what I had heard about the fate of this car. The accident was at the Lure hillclimb in May or June 1965 but this is the first I'd heard of a fire.

About five years ago, a well-known UK restorer was claiming to have this car but I'm fairly confident that his car is actually an ex-Zweifel 1963 Cooper.

Allen

PS Does anyone have a source of French hillclimb dates for 1965?

Yes Allen , it was at Lure , and to be more exact , with the stuck throttle Rudaz "touched" a stonewall ,wich ripped up the petrol tank , the car caught fire , Rudaz escaping with minor burns , the car exploded , putting the forrest on fire wich took 24 hours to extinguish , and the car was gone.

Yup, there wouldn't have been much left of that car after that!

Do you know the date of Lure that season?

Allen

Allen,
The Lure Hillclimb in 1965 was on May 16.

Thanks Gérard!

Bjorn: slightly OT but do you know if this book mentions Michel Degoumois, who raced in Interserie in 1974 for a team called Ecurie Ouest Romand Schweiz?

Yes! NOmention of him!

OK, thanks Bjorn - it was rather a long shot!

On the Transporter thread , post 1490 - picture 4 , is "half" a picture of the Rudaz Saurer transporter.