Chapman used to race an Elite I believe, although I never saw him do so, however in a Ford celebrity day he piloted a 3 Litre Capri to great effect, mixing it with Surtees, Hill and the F1 drivers of the day, they were stock cars (sold off afterwards!) and the tyres howled all the way round the short circuit!

I have on tape the BBC coverage of the team managers Escort Mexico race on the Brands club circuit at the F1 Victory meeting in October '71, a meeting I was at which was tragically the day Siffert died. Colin nearly won, until his engine let go with a lap to go, ahead of Brabham, Surtees, Tyrrell, Mosley, Williams etc. A very good driver.

There's a recent thread on Chapman driving the Vanwall at Reims in 1956, David.

http://forums.atlasf1.com/showthread.php?t...chapman+vanwall

I suspect that the head shot of a woman in the Mini race would be Christabel Carlisle. who has been discussed here in various threads, and who raced Minis in the British Saloon Car Championship in the early 60s.

Sorry, Andrew, but I regret that don't have any Snetterton shots for you - pleased to hear that Marcus has been scanning the photo threads.

I'm sure that I speak for many here, but wouldn't it be wonderful if Marcus could find the time to look in and contribute occasionally...

Mark, I've tried to persuade him so many times, always the same reply...no time.

You could always try starting a hillclimb thread. That might work...

The Argo JM6 could be a Marcus magnet, too.

Or Lola 2-litre sportscars!

Let's go for the jugular!

I mentioned to you, Simon, that you may be able to assist me in *bullying* him into action - so here goes!

I guess the chap in the Simca 1000 on David's picture on post 141, is a brasilian stuntman called Euclides Pinheiro.

Here are a few more from the same folder;







David

What a fabulous photo of Christabel Carlisle, David.

You could always try starting a hillclimb thread. That might work...

There already is one......

Graham Hill and Jo Bonnier in the 2nd, but is that a young John Rhodes behind with Sir Jack? 3rd picture Peter Harper? Such atmospheric shots, I was at Brands Hatch today, and looked over the circuit, I much preffered the look of the '60's version, with the old "Motor" score tower and the bridges over to South Bank and the Redex Billboards alongside the track............

I do not recall Rootes running red Rapiers in period, although it looks as if it might be a -WK reg, so it may be Peter Pilsworth, but his car was 63 --- from memory, never a reliable weapon these days.. The Riley may be Alan Hutchesen, in version 2 of his car after he rolled the first one, VUV 390, very badly, (lake at Oulton???). The first one did not have the stripes.

Any thoughts?

Roger Lund.

Three slides from Roger Ellis's collection. I think the first two are from the Oulton Gold Cup meeting 1968. The third is from Croft 1966 - Would it be Roy Pierpoint's Falcon - I don't remember the colour?.

Absolutely beautiful pictures! The Falcon is the David Hobbs (Malcom Gartlan?) car, a stunning colour scheme. I notice the two Alan Mann cars are in front (or were there any cars in front of them?)in picture 1, also notice how far Hobbs is back in the 1st pic!Very unusual . In picture two, I think it's Brian Robinson and Tony Dean in the ex-works Lotus Cortinas following John Rhodes or Handley, just a great time for saloon car racing, anymore by chance

Great memories, just great!!!!

Sorry, sterling, these are the only saloon ones that Roger has passed to me.

Grateful for those posted! It is so refreshing to see someone elses pictures as most magazines and books use LAT (not that there is anything wrong with them) but as we get older, so many of them have been seen before and "nothing is new"......same problem with music
It's everything that I grew up with, the circuit looks green and rustic, nice Redex hordings, and not to many..... The photographers...perilously near the edge of the track and trees in the background, just awesome, Brands and Oulton always were great naturally wooded tracks, just superb! Thank You! By comparison, tracks today look so clinical, grass cut, safety run offs......


Sterling

Talking of Alan Mann Racing Escorts, I have just come across an entry at Brands, Guards Meeting 2 Sept 68, where there is an AMR Escort entered in the large, over 2,000cc class as supercharged. Driver tbn. All the usual entrants in all the classes for this, the Group 5 race.



Roger Lund.

I was at that meeting to, and if my memory serves me correctly, a certain Jackie Oliver drove it in the big class to take points away from the big Fords, if I could find my programmes that I filed in the garage when we moved, I could confirm it!

Production saloons 1972, Lodge Corner, Oulton Park

John Handley (Alfa) leads Roger Bell (BMW)

The Falcon in post 164 is Roy Pierpoint's. I took a photo from a similar angle but with a hopeless camera and in black and white, so I would like to thank Alan Cox and Roger Ellis for posting the wonderful colour photos from the 1966 Croft meeting in this and other threads. The event made a great impression on me - being 14 and seeing heroes such as Surtees, McLaren and Amon at my local circuit! Roy's Falcon was one of my favourite cars and I still have the slot car model I made of it in the loft.

When that is Roys Falcon ,who then raced a red one? I seem to remember Roy racing in Denmark and that was red with some striping!I believe in 1967!

Correct. If you can get hold of the colour VHS video 'Classic Saloon Car Racing 60s style' the focus is on the Escort of Gardner throughout the 1968 year with coverage of that race. E-bay?

Bjorn, the only red Falcon racing in England in 1967 that I know of was the Alan Mann Racing car driven by Frank Gardner to win the British Saloon Car Championship in that year. The car had a gold side flash and roof in the same style as Roy Pierpoint's Falcon.
Roy Pierpoint did race his Falcon during 1967 using a different colour scheme which I think was dark blue with light (white?) side flash and roof. There is a photo of this car in "Motor Racing Year 1967-8" which shows it after hitting the railway sleepers at Ramp Bend, Crystal Palace. Can anyone confirm this later colour scheme on the Pierpoint car?

If this is Roy Pierpoint's car,what colours was David Hobbs' car then?

I beg to differ. I believe that Roy's car was white . The Malcolm Gartlan Racing Falcon was blue with a Gulf Orange flash.

The car in the photo also has wheels which I do not think would have been eligible for the Touring Car Championship.
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I really thought this was Davis Hobbs car (Malcom Gartlan), my own vague recollection of Pierpoint's car was dark blue, but I am not confident of that, I would still say the blue and orange car was David Hobbs, anybody confirm please???

Frank in the 1967 Falcon... Silverstone?
(Photo courtesy : FoMoCo)

Have spoken to Malcolm Gartlan, and he confirms it is not his car. His car did not have the roof the same colour as the flash.

Peter ( ex Malcolm Gartlan Racing)

Thanks for that Peter, at least I got the name of your team correct

Re-reading the Autosport report of the Croft meeting, the only big saloons referrred to (in what was a combined saloon/sports car thrash) were Jackie Oliver's Mustang and Roy Pierpoint's Falcon, so I would tend to think it was the Pierpoint car.

Looking at other reports of 1966 saloon races, it would appear that Sir Gawaine Baillie's Falcon was white.

http://www.worldcollectorsnet.com/news/new...es/image004.gif

Agreed David Hobbs' Falcon was mid-blue with orange side flash. I don't think he raced it until 1968 - he is not mentioned in the saloon championship reviews of Motor Racing Year 1966-7 and 1967-8, but does appear in the results and text of the 1968-9 edition.

Roy Pierpoint's blue and gold car is shown in colour photographs from Graham Robson's "Ford in touring car racing" - Crystal Palace 1966, p.30 and Brands Hatch 1966, p.67.

Gawaine Baillie's car is also identified in the Crystal Palace photo and in a colour shot from David Hodges' "Lotus: the legend", p.36, but is mid-blue with twin front to rear white stripes. After the 1966 season Baillie sold the car and it was driven by Brian Muir in 1967 and 1968 in what looks like the same colour scheme, judging by the black and white photos I have to hand.

Further to my last post, now not sure if Baillie did sell the car after the '66 season - "Motor Racing Year 1967-8" describes Brian Muir as being"...entrusted with Sir Gawaine Baillie's Ford Falcon for '67...".

I guess this must be Hobbs: Brands, 1968. Pic taken by my mate Dave Sullivan.

That is exiting Gerards at Mallory - no lake in the middle of Brands.
All of these cars from '68 can be seen in colour on the VHS tape 'Classic Saloon Car Racing 60s style'.
A review of the '68 BSCC season. Available on ebay from the producers.

A big hand to Andrew and Terry, great photo......as management would say " I was nearly right" and I would counter "a miss is as near as a mile", sent my list off to Santa with a big arrow pointing to that VHS tape!

Whoops! Mallory not Brands - which means this is Mallory Park too:

Yes, great pics!
The video is here, link to ebay - Porter Publishing.
However the cover is mis-leading as the film centres on Frank in XOO 349F against those Falcon's with coverage of races at Brands, Snetterton, Oulton and the Mallory race in those photos.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-SALOON-CAR-RAC...1QQcmdZViewItem

The roaring Fords, they all look great, but that Cortina just superb.......

Wonderful pictures and a great thread. Thank you all !

Gentlemen, I beleive I can help you here.

The light blue and gold Falcon was Roy Pierpoint's car. It also raced in the dark blue with white livery as per the Crystal Palace picture mentioned previously. (I have that picture in my scrapbook and will post here if I can work out how to do that) The car was repainted red with a silver side flash and roof 3/4 through the '68 season. The Pierpoint car had a special engine with Gurney Weslake alloy heads, a big improvement on the standard iron headed Ford motor. By 1969 when the car was sold to Martin Birrane it had J A Pearce wheels all round although these were changed for Halibrand fronts with knock-off hubs and Minilites on the rear soon after. Martin raced in the Guards Trophy championship races as well as many club racing events where the Falcon frequently won. What a great car!

If you are wondering how I know all this I was Martin's mechanic from 1967 until, well pretty well the present day as I now work with him at Lola Cars. 1960's saloon car racing was just excellent with great people, some very eccentric characters and brilliant, innovative, excessive, superfast cars. If you missed it that is bad news because racing like that will never come again.

I will do my best to post some pictures from my scrapbook over the next few weeks.

Kind regards to all contributors, thank you for the excellent pictures and happy memories.

Glyn Jones.

Glyn, many thanks, would love to see more pictures. You would have worked on Martin's Fairlane aswell then and his Brabham BT43?

Bravo Glyn!!! I watched the labours of your toil often in the '60's and '70's and great times they were to!!!

Been working my memory hard, but could not get the answers and cannot find the old programmes either I recall Pierpoint's car being dark blue also, but it is better to be informed by an expert
.....oh, just loved those Hallibrand wheels...........

GLYN,
WERE YOU ON DUTY WHEN HE BUMPED INTO A TREE AT PHOENIX PARK , AND HAD TO ACQUIRE A RADIATOR OVERNIGHT .

Good to hear from you, Glyn. I look forward to seeing your photographs. Presumably you worked on Martin's Adlards Super Saloon Capri?

Have been talking to Malcolm again, and we have come up with the following which may help / confuse.

P120. The Terry Sanger Camaro is the ex Malcolm Gartlan / Wiggins Teape car as driven by Brian Muir.
This was the only Camaro with a vinyl roof. The car was built by Peter Reinhart when he was working for Roger Penske. He took the car back to Germany when he was about to be nailed for conscription by the U.S. Military. Looks like Terry is running 4 Webers which accounts for the bonnet bulge. In Wiggins Teape mode it ran a Holley and no bulge.

P 178 Bought this car fron Alan Mann, and raced it in 68 / 69. Sold it to Dennis Leach.

P 187 Bill Shaw's Falcon,prepared by Mathwall Eng. and driven by Brian Muir.

Weslake made approx 6 / 8 pairs of Heads for the Falcon.

P 69 Driver was David Howes

Please say hi to the gaffer from me, please. Top chap.

Lovely car, that BT43...

A few scans of prints which I've acquired over the decades, and come across again over the last few days...

This is Tony Strawson at Silverstone in 1973, I believe.




A shunt at Brands in 1975 involving Jeff Allam in the Vauxhall Magnum, and Ivan Dutton in the Ford Crapi.






It's a Falcon (isn't it?) and my bet would be at Silverstone.




All I can say is that this is a Mustang, and the shot looks like it was taken from the outside of the exit of Surtees heading onto the GP circuit at Brands. In spite of the driver's helmet, the edges of the number square (Castrol-orientated, I think) and the size of the rear spoiler suggest mid-1970s to me.

Here's a past British & European Touring Car Champion racing last weekend at Sydney's Eastern Creek International Raceway.

Sir John Whitmore at full noise half way through the fastest corner on the circuit.

Gorgeous car driven by great driver, pity they don't make them like that anymore