Very respectful of you to post this.... in the slideshow towards the bottom, photos 9 and 28 really got to me. I can't help but wonder if he ran the IKF Grands when I did, in 1981 and 1982.

RIP, Jeff.

On another note, Tommy Kendall's t-shirt in Photo 2 is quite classic. I want one of those.

This Sunday, July 31st, there will be a display of Indianapolis race cars at Plymouth, MI (near Detroit) as part of the St. John's Concours. Formerly held at Meadow Brook Hall.

http://concoursusa.org/

Photos from St. John's yesterday. An elegant setting and a very nice turn out of spectacular cars of many varieties and eras. IndyCars are the focus of these shots. I tried to get the placard in the photos for identification purposes.

I got to spend some time with my friend's from Penske Restorations and others from my lifelong association with Model J Duesenberg's. A hot, beautiful day at a great setting. I hope this thread is the best location for these.

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I'll post the rest of the line up later.

Fantastic stuff, Brian! Looking eagerly forward to the rest.

Thanks for the pics from St John's and letting me see what I missed. Between being burned-out from too much fun in the sun at Waterford for the Vintage Races on Friday and Saturday and having out-of-town company till about noon on Sunday, didn't make the five mile trip to the events new home.

"The rest"?

More from the show of IndyCars at St. John's in Plymouth, MI on Saturday July 31st:

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Last set from St. John's.

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Do you know what is the most beautiful thing about old racing cars? When they are displayed outside on the green grass and blue sky above them. What a wonderful pictures Brian!

[wearing my Barry Boor hat]

That Huffaker nose looks all wrong to me...

[/wearing my Barry Boor hat]

I think you may be correct in your observation. It looks as if, in the official IMS photos, that the radiator inlet was smaller. I neglected to take a photo from ground level to ascertain if it had the correct rake on the lower surface.

A terrific set of photographs, Brian, and what a collection of racers! Many thanks for seeing them for me!

Tony and others - glad you are enjoying the photos.

Tony, didn't you do a cutaway of Rick's 1988 "500" winning car? I mentioned to Bernie & George (Penske Restorations) that I thought that it may be (to my eye) the most beautiful IndyCar of that era. I love the disc wheels! I still remember the start of that year's race when the three Penske drivers captured the front row, what a glorious sight as they came down the front straight to take the green flag.

The following photo is, I believe, the last shot I took of Greg Moore. This is at Road America in 1999. It is all the better because I was able to get one of my closet friends, Paul Panhorst, in the photo too, although I wish my timing was a milli-second later to capture the entire car. He was working the board for open or closed pits that day, so my friends and I watched the race from that vantage point to be able to visit during down times between events.

photo: B²

An 'uncleaned' scan, Brian, but of a beautiful car. The first of the Nigel Bennett Penskes, all of them lovely!

Thanks for posting your great cutaway Tony. Your talent never ceases to amaze me.

Many thanks for posting these fantastic photos Brian. Excellent, excellent, excellent stuff.

Took a tour to Michigan in the Vette on that Saturday and saw the "City of Tacoma" special on the ramp truck, running up 80/94 from Chicago. Wondered where they were going!
ZOOOM

Hear hear.

You guys are too kind. Glad I can make a contribution.

Tony Kanaan and Johnny Herbert at Indianapolis in 2002.

photo: B²

A couple of old black & whites from 1976 at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. These were taken on Wednesday before Pole Day.

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Bill Puterbaugh in the McNamara Motor Express Eagle-Offy would be flagged on his 96th lap in 22nd place in the rain-shortened race.


Pancho Carter's Jorgenson Eagle-Offy finished 5th for Dan Gurney, one lap down to winner Johnny Rutherford. Could that be Dick Wallen with camera in hand on the right of the photo?

There were 117 entries at the Indy 500 in 1984. Has anyone a list with all entries (with team and cars?) and who were the 87 drivers, who really drove at least one lap in practice in 1984?

Actually 87 cars arrived to speedway and 84 took practice runs. PM me your email if you need a chart.

Tony, you are one brilliant master.

Brian, I've missed this thread and all your wonderful photos. Fabulous cars, a bit before my time but oh so beautiful!

Your Greg Moore shot breaks my heart. I just happened to be on a family visit in 1997 and witnessed Greg's first CART win, at my home track at the Milwaukee Mile, and that was my first IndyCar race I'd seen him in. I spent a day with him at Phoenix in 1993 so if I may, here's my words regarding that day that I wrote just after his death:

"A Day in the Life of Greg Moore

In 1992, my friends Bob and Buddy Lazier secured their first major CART sponsor in Viper Auto Security, and graciously included me in their program as photographer and graphic designer. In March of 1993, I received a call from my client at Viper asking if I could fly to PIR to shoot publicity photos of the first CART test of a young, unlicensed Canadian they were sponsoring in Indy Lights. I was surprised to have never heard of this driver, and wondered how Viper had discovered him. That driver was Greg Moore.

I arrived at the track bright and early, and could not believe my eyes when I met the freckled, 17 year-old Greg. He looked all of 15, and he could hardly believe the journey before him. I asked his father Ric Moore and Greg’s career-long Team Manager Steve Challis if we could take a few “insurance” photos of Greg with the car before he went out, but they assured me that Greg was taking it easy and they needed a few laps to test a chassis change before the desert heat invalidated comparison. Greg went out on spent tires, took 0.8 sec. from the track record and promptly pounded the wall, damaging both ends of the car badly enough to send them packing. Luckily, Greg was okay and the Viper logo on the sidepods was intact. I was able to crop out the damage to photograph Greg with the car.

Before I left with my rental car, Ric asked if I’d mind taking him and Greg to the airport. They sat in the back seat together, and we enjoyed talking of a career to come. There was a brief silence of a few seconds, during which I saw a dejected Greg in the mirror with something on his mind that a teenager can’t hide. He looked sheepishly at his father, and remarked, “I hit the wall kinda hard, huh Dad?” Ric assured him it’s part of the game, and no big deal. The sad irony of those words are more than a little haunting now.

Not only did Greg lose his life on Halloween, but Buddy Lazier turned 32 that day.

Why did the end of ‘99 have to mean the end of #99?

Godspeed, Greg."


I have photos to scan of that day, and will add them here at some point. Still hurts to look at them.

Greg tested for Penske at the end of 1994, I didn't know of anything before that, so I'm very interested in your photos.

Brian,

Do you have 1995 pics too?
If so, can I PM you?

Henri

Henri -

I don't have many photos from 1995, race day only I believe. Let me know what you are looking for, I'll help if I can.

E1 - Thanks for the Greg Moore memory. Would like to see the photos when you feel you can do so.

Thanks, for now I'll post a couple I've scanned of Greg at Mid-Ohio in 1997.

I just searched and do see that a couple threads have been done on Greg here, one "seven years after," and another about his memorial. I wonder if there would be interest in a new thread "Greg Moore's Life" (maybe with "Behind the Wheel" attached) or similar. Greg deserves so much more on a thread that has legs. I'd add my above story and photos of that test day on a new thread, and would hope that others would contribute as well.

A few months after one of my books launched, my publisher released a book on Greg but had no idea my connection to him and that was tragic. It is a great book, though, titled "Greg Moore: A Legacy of Spirit."

Thoughts? RIP, Greg.

Youtube find: CART first years with lots of interviews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR0dERYShL4

I was in the Chicago suburb of Rosemont on Saturday to visit with friends exhibiting cars at The Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals. I was pleasantly surprised to see Don Devine's 1968 Indianapolis 500, Shelby Racing, Wallis designed turbine car of Bruce McLaren. He and teammate Dennis Hulme were never up to proper speeds to qualify for the race.

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I see the signage claims the car is a 1966, that is incorrect.

I believe that it was much more than that. Brian, although I suspect that the full, and true, story may never emerge. Over the years I have read articles about the Shelby gas turbine entry that are full of intrigue, double dealing, back stabbing, and outright cheating. One common theme seems to be that the cars were somehow or other engineered to have the air intake increase illegally in size from the regulated amount when the cars were out on the track. Whether Shelby himself knew about this or not has been subject to debate.

What is the truth? I admit I don't know. Does somebody out there?

Tom

I admit I know little about these cars. I last saw one on pit road at Indianapolis during practice for the '68 500. I was more intrigued by the Granatelli Lotus 56 turbine cars, so I paid these little attention. They resembled Parnelli's '67 turbine, as Ken Wallis was the designer of both. I would be of great interest to learn more. Thanks Tom.

Amazing Brian! Thank you so much for posting these 2 pictures - never seen one in that livery. As to the story behind them , it seems that the cars did have a mechanism for increasing the USAC restricted intake area (and thus increasing horsepower) and that pressure from Goodyear caused them to be withdrawn before USAC could expose the 'cheating'. As to Shelby's involvement/knowledge who indeed knows.?

If you have any more photos please please post them! And who is Don Devine???

You really come up with the goods with your posts brian - fantastic!

regards

Neil

For one thing, he raced for the original Meister Brauser Scarab team. Maybe someone who knows him far better than me can provide more insight. If you scroll down on the following link, you'll see him driving the car in the Prairie Street Art - Ron Nelson section.

http://scarab-motorsports.com/links.php

Neil - Thanks for the kind words. Following are another two shots of the Shelby turbine. It was cordoned off, so I couldn't get much variety in my pictures.

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Don is an occasional poster on TNF so perhaps he will answer your question. Elaborating a bit on what Brian wrote, Don was a member of the Meister Brauser Team in the early 1960s. He drove the complete season for the team in 1963, driving their Scarab, chassis #2. He won the SCCA National at VIR overall, and was second at that year's Road America June Sprints and third at the Meadowdale SCCA National. Don made occasional appearances afterward, notably winning an SCCA National at Blackhawk Farms in 1971 in a Lola T-70. He also drove the Lola in a number of Can Am races.

Don is a noted and respected authority on McLaren race cars. He was very involved this year in exposing the fakery perpetrated by the owner of the Commander M8F who tried to pass it off as the Revson M8F. He has owned the Peter Revson-driven McLaren M20 for many years and also owns the McLaren M16 in which Revson won the pole for the 1971 Indy 500. Besides the Shelby turbine that Brian showed us above, Don also owns a couple Lola T-600 GTP cars from the early 1980s.

Don also knows a heck of a lot about Scarabs. Besides having raced one in 1963, Don at one time or another owned two of them, the third sports racer built, the car currently in the Collier Museum, and the third, unraced F-1 car which was recently sold by the Donington Collection. As you can imagine, he told me that he regrets having to sell those cars way back in the day when they were just old racing cars and not the cash vaults on wheels that they are now!

Don is a very nice fellow and can be seen at many events in the Chicago-Milwaukee area every year.

Tom

Tom - Thanks for the information on Mr. Devine.

Agreed, Tom is a veritable treasure trove of info!

Tom, now that you're retired... is it time for another book? Maybe "The Life & Times of Midwest Sports Car Racing???" I happen to know of a qualified designer who shares your love of the Old Days...

That would be further down the road, but I do have one book project underway. Also just completed another article for Sports Car, and am in the early stages of a driver bio for one of the vintage car mags.

Thanks for the compliment and the interest.

Tom

I want to take a moment to remember George Robert "Bobby" Marshman, a great talent that was lost 47 years ago today. Seen in this photo in 1964 in the Lindsey Hopkins owned, Jack Beckley wrenched, modified Lotus 29. Mr. Beckley is seen at the far right in sunglasses. My thoughts are with his family, as always.

photo: Marshman family collection

From a link to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway archives. Quite a few photos from 1967 that one would usually see only in the proofs in the photo shop at the Museum.

http://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/i...dianapolis-500/

My dad will get a kick out of these as I've started scanning his slides from '67. Thanks for sharing the link. I notice a few of the drivers are wearing his company's drivers/golf gloves. No nomex back then.......

Very Cool, Brian... I have Floyd Clymer's 1967 500 Yearbook and read it so much as a kid it's pretty worn. Love It.

Dad's got the entire set of Clymer Yearbooks, they are borrowed frequently.

From the Sumar archives of Larry Wheat. 1957 Trenton victory lane with car owner Chapman Root, Sam Nunis, chief mechanic (and Larry's father in law) John Blouch, Pat O'Connor and his wife, Analice.

photo: Larry Wheat collection

Has anyone details about the DC-1 from Dale Coyne in 1986?

I looked in a few sources and didn't find anything. I do have some IndyCar magazines from that era that may have an article or pictures. I'll try to take a look in the near future. There probably wasn't much interest from the press in Dale's relentless efforts, but in a quite slow race car. Possibly Dale himself would be the best person to address about the car.

Mark Windecker has a picture

http://mwphoto.smugmug.com/Cars/CART/1986-...46_755ya/Medium

The DC1 was a reworked Lola (T900 I think)

Don't know if this helps....
Mid-Ohio 1985



Copyright JAG

Man, looking back to that era, those "forward cockpit" cars sure look dangerous.

Pretty good looking car and one brave venture, though. I've always been a fan of Dale, even when he was a Club racer.

A couple of legendary drivers on the mend:

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ind...ey-on-the-mend/

Danny Sullivan okay after head on crash in Monterey, CA destroys his Audi R8 GT:

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120215/IRL/120219918

I've really enjoyed picking my way through this thread, Indycar back in the 1990's was just a great place to be. The Greg Moore photos particularly bring back a lot of good memories.

Although these are not period pictures I though they might be of some interest - they were taken by Greg Pajo in about 2009 for Motorsport Magazine. Unfathomably they were never published. The car is PC-26 005 which won the 1997 St. Louis race, Penske team win number 99. Andrew Frankel was driving on this occasion, it was a bit of a squeeze getting him in but he did a marvellous job.


Penske PC-26 Low by Greg Pajo by dtperformanceltd, on Flickr


Penske PC-26 Pass by Greg Pajo by dtperformanceltd, on Flickr


Penske PC-26 Hed On by Greg Pajo by dtperformanceltd, on Flickr