What a mess I am doing here , the pictures are COPYRIGHTED by Motorbuch Verlag a company in the www.paul-pietsch-verlage.de.

DO YOU KNOW THIS ONE ?

Malcolm Guthrie's transporter was painted a dark silver grey with a plum coloured band round it.

The door halfway down opened to reveal a winch situated in the middle of the bed.

Believe his father was Sir Miles Guthrie, then chairman of B.O.A.C.

The mind boggles. Was Malcolm that heavy?

Maybe a misprint for wench?

Yes Bob the mind does boggle!!!!!!! WENCH i think is what it should be........????????????

Cease boggling ! Maybe I should have said that in the floor was a device for pulling the cars up the ramp into the transporter.

Make of that what you will !

So 'wench' would be right then.

I said "pulling cars", not "pulling blokes" !

Thanks Twinny and Gerard !
Guys , I really want some id on the pics in post 896 , esp. picture 5 what racers!

I think Number 7 is taken at Goodwood.

I have just find in my archive a very emotional pic of the Weatcroft transporter, take on a very sad day at Zandvoort in 73

and the same day at Zandvoort in 73

The Williams transporter at Zandvoort 73 and a very young "boss"

the GELO racing transporter and the 512 at trials of LE MANS in april 1970.

Could it be 1971, the car is a Ferrari 512M

you are absolutly right FAUSTO ,it is in 1971 !!!!!

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another one ,this is the MATRA transporter during the trials of LE MANS 1971.

1) 1938 Fiat 626. Anymore information?

Monaco, or perhaps Pau? I'm guessing...




2) The Alpines are orange. Norisring 1970 ?
Renault Deutschland ?

Orange could maybe indicate Renault Netherlands? And the venue might be Hockenheim...




5) Hockenheim 500kms 1965 ?
Morris Oxford (1961) & Humber Hawk (1957) ?

That's not a Morris Oxford, old chap! More like a Vanden Plas Princess 3 Litre MkII.




7) Cento Sud in front, but where ?

That's annoying, because I feel I should recognise this venue... :\

Check out Post 910!

could be that the orange Alpines are these http://www.scala43.com/scala43/sonst.htm#alpine ?

Not sure if no.7 is Goodwood. Far too tidy for Goodwood in period with no scaffolding poles in sight. I think France - either Reims or Montlhery.

This is definitely Reims, picture taken from the back of the pits. We can see the top of the two grandstands facing the pits from the other side of the track.

Then is the FGP 1958 , they also had a big entry for their F2 race and then I put my money on Brian Naylor for the red/green 1 1/2 decker Bedford transporter. Also Centro Sud was there with 3 cars/drivers incl. Shelby (sitting on a wheel) and he was not there in 57! Aggreed?

Pic 1 , Maserati also used this outfit after the war , propably up to when they got their first proper "bus" in 53. And used open trucks of some kind as well.

Pic 2 Dieter Kern had an alpine team in 71/72 , this should be Hockenheim.

Pic 5 Agree it look more like a Vanden Plas. But what are the racers ? One looks like an AH Le Mans ?

Does someone know if the Mini Mooke seen in the photo(the pic was auctioned at EBay last year) was also used to carry GLTL Lotus 59 F2 cars?
More pics will be welcome
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Is there soemone who can tell me what was written on the front doors of the Gelo Racing Truck? It must be like Gelo Racing KG with address and phone numbers. Does someone has a more detailed photo?

Hi 964 Targa, ...did you see that the license plate changed in the years from K- (Cologne) to BM- (Bergheim) (Post 866) - Loos KG to Gelo Sportswear?
Best regards, Christian

Hi rhegra, I am looking for the early times 1971/72 when the transporter was painted with the Ferrari 512M and the McLaren M8E. Do you know if this was the K- or BM- times? It was definitely not the Sportswear times, this was after Weisberg painting in 1978. I am also interested how Georg Loos did the McLaren emblem within his Gelo Racing Team German circle. It would be great a good photo from the Transporter from 1971/72 when he raced Ferrari 512 and McLaren M8.

Guessing time (logical?). Having found many infos and pics on LM1962 transporters , none however on Lumsden/Sargent or Maurice Charles. Looking at some overviews from the books Renntransporter and The Mintex Man , I noticed a green bus (i have seen thet before) and a more or less 1 1/2 decker bus in blue in the paddock that year . Does that not fit well with privateer and colours for the above mentioned. Your guess ?

I just remembered some transporter pictures I have. These show how the cobras arrived at Lake Garnett for their showdown with the corvettes on July 7th, 1963.

A privateer cobra arrives pulled by a Pontiac Station wagon, tires on the roof rack.




The Shelby Team arrives with transporter, 3 cobras and a parts chaser pickup.


It looks like Dave MacDonald without a shirt.


I wonder if the cars had been tarped? It looks like they are each sitting on something that could be the end of a tarp you drive on and get secured to itself.

Chuck Brandt

Just wanted to update books with transporters and paddock shots (with transporters ), that I know and feel are very good:

Renntransporter (transl. Racetransporter) by Storz/Braun with German captions.

Reflections by A.Carter , reprint with lots of new info out now.

A mechanics tale (BRM) by Dick Salmon

Mintex Man (relined ed.) by G.Loveridge

Goodwood in the 60s by Tony Gardiner

It was how the Eddie Cheever Osella F2 was transported in 1979.

Bjorn, I just got Your mail (I hadn't checked this account in several months, due to tech probs on my end)- pls. refresh my memory, what is it about? If Cruel Sport pics, I'll try to get them done (still haven't got a scanner)...

Wolf , you wrote post 399 on this thread ! And I am still so curious !

The location looks like Norisring (Fahrerlager am Dutzendteich). In 1970 there were only Interserie and Formula V races. 1971 were listed with # 41 Hans Schulze-Schwering and # 42 Dieter Kern. Both on Renault Alpine 1600 S for team DEUTSCHE RENAULT. Kern finished on 2nd and Schulze-Schwering on 8th place in class GT 1300 - 1600 ccm.
Does anybody have the color pics for my site www.norisringhistorie.de ?
Greetings!

Juergen

With reference to post 896 thanks for any info so far ! Please have another look !

Bjorn, sorry, but right now I have only lower res pics. Will post or mail higher res versions if needed (when I get them)- Rouen pic at least will benefit from higher quality...

Thanks to all the latest here.

Wolf , also worth waiting , seeing the pics in line tells me that the no. 2 pic is second from left in the line up in pic 3 , wich means Cooper,Brabham , the next after Brabham is Jack Lewis , Ecurie Galloises,
then 2 Porsche , BRM and Lola Bowmaker(Parnell).

Thanks guys !

Are there any Italians on this thread ? I am looking for some older Italian transport firms !

Does anyone know about the British firm SS & Co. (S.Smith) Ltd. ,Downham Road , London?

Bremgarten, 1954...

Here's how Oscar Kovaleski would haul his ex-Penske ex-Wintersteen Cooper Monaco-Chevy to the various hillclimbs he competed in. '59 Chevy wagon and a trailer. Oscar would sell slot cars and car models out of the back of the wagon at races as part of his AutoWorld business.

Chuck

Fine pics Twinny and Chuck !

Anyone knows how Maurice Trintignant got his BRM f1 to the tracks in his "final" year ???????

If this helps, picture number 2 (car on trailer 776NPG) represents Jack Brabham's Lotus 24 arriving at Spa for the 1962 Belgian GP in June 62. It is not related with Rouen pic.

Posted on behalf of Bjørn Kjer

Silverstone July 1961 : Any ideas on the transporters and vans in this photo?

The Stirling Moss Scrapbook : Moss & Bollee (posted with permission)

From "Gr**d P**X", the paddock at Monza, with Jeff Jordan ushering Stoddard and Turner out while Aron arrives in his Shelby Mustang.



Paul M

Good pic Macca , I have Grand Prix , but did not see this !?

Did any of you recognize any of the transporters in the background of some of the fine pictures on the Vanwall web site ?

Posted on behalf of Bjørn Kjer

All images from 'Les 12 Heures du Reims' by Michel Bollee (with premission)

1. 1965 Ferrari 250 LM : Pierre Dumay & Gustave Gosselin
Ecurie Francorchamps, but any info on the transporter?

2. 1965 Ferrari 250 GTO : Peter Sutcliffe & William Bradley

3. 1965 Porsche 904 GTS : Claude Barbier & Andre Potier

4. 1967 Ford GT40 : Ed Nelson & Eric Lyddel

Any information on the transporters/support vans in these photo would be appreciated

Rob

Ref Rob Ryder's response note final name is Eric Liddell His son Robin Liddell is doing well in the USA these days.

hello transporter fans.

heres a photo of 'big william', the restoration is progressing well - still a fair way to, but did manage a short road test last weekend

not ready for the start of this season though.......

Yes, that struck me too but I used the image caption.
I did not have the 1967 race entryt to hand to check.
Rob