Phil, nic pics and story, especially the bus! Who was your father?

Peter , you are right , I looked again and just saw the yellow stripe

Regards Bjørn

For Bjørn and Clarko, about the Lotus transporter on post 685 : the transporter was originally as pictured on this post, with two headlights and a small front grill.
The transporter had then a crash against the B.R.M. truck coming out of Silverstone (must have been in 1963 but not sure), and its facia was rebuilt with four headlights and a larger front grill. The truck was also using two additional headlights bolted underneath its front bumper.

Searched the board and didn't find this link that I came across elswhere, it is in german but has lots of pictures from european teams:

http://www.renntransporter132.de/index.html

You are a wise man JPGP79

Here is what I know to Lotus :
1949 CC starts racing
1954 TL is founded, has a Bedford bus
1956 Anglia with trailer , Monza record trials
1956 Allison arrives with bus from family business, is then much modified.
1957 Gregor Grant organizes TL Mille tour with own MG Magnette and trailer
1959 Thames 400E with extra crewcab , flatbed and 2 stage open trailer
1960 Bedford (MLB) "furniture" bus
1961 New Bedford or Austin Transporter
1962 Ford Zephyr with trailer
1963 Bus from 61 rebuild front after accident
196? Closed Thames 400E vans pull Indy cars to airfreight on 4 wheel open trailers
1965 Monaco GP : spl. van?
1967 AEC transporter , green
1969 ditto now GLTL
also Mini Moke and open trailer for 47
1971 AEC now JPS
also Ford Transit
also Hymer mobile
1973 AEC now Texaco for F2
1973 new spl. transporter JPS
later Essex colour
1981 Volvo Globetrotter and semitrailer
1994 last race
thereafter diverse green cars

Will someone please tell me who the person or team is meant in post 699?

Maranello UK (Hoare) had a Thames Trader boxed/build over the cabin roof/cabin more or less integrated transporter at the beginning in 1961. They in 1964 added another Trader also boxed /over the cabin roof but NOT integrated cabin.They were both at LM in 1966 (?). What colours were they ??????????????????

Also Ecosse had 2 AEC buses(converted) before the famous Commer(1959), these buses were I believe different coloured , any knowledge of the colours????????????????????????????

Merzario's truck, Brands Hatch 1978 :

These might help a little.

Mark Shannon

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Fantastically sharp B&W picture Mark, where did it come from and what was the date ? Was this 1961 ?

Motomarin i have pm´ed you.
jpgp nice with a confirmation James ,good site only of its kind, nothing new though for over a year!
Pedro new to me !!!!!!!!!!!
Mark looked brand new and red to me .....now I read the press release , very interesting!
Thanks very much to all (on alls behalf)
Regards Bjørn

The picture came with the Press Release.

A date of 1964 is mentioned in the Press Release itself.

I have nothing else.

Mark Shannon
www.markshannon.net

I seem to recall Thames Traders running on a B registration so 64 would be OK. IIRC the D Series came out in 65 with C reg.

Roger Lund

PS You must think that Christmas has come early with a photo and spec. like that, Bjorn

RL

OK, so how about this then.

Picture Copyright Terry Hoyle, who is in the picture.

www.terryhoyle.com

Mark Shannon

www.markshannon.net

...found this article in the german Sport-Auto August 76:




on the Monaco-photo I think: Ensign, Ligier (or Penske?), (?) the red Ford, Wolf with Walter Wolfs Countach, Fittipaldi with Emmos great motorhome, Lotus, March-Beta, Tyrrell, Hesketh (?), McLaren and Ferrari.
Hope you can identify.
Best regards, Christian

... and two other clips with the Porsches:

with a nisting bird in one of the transporters.

714 : Great colour pic , but Bjørn should revise his opinion I believe! No. 2 car looks more like a Bedford S !!!!! Thank you Mark and Terry !

God article rhegra , small but many recognizabel!

transporter porsche us

le mans 1982 lancia transporter

I echo Bjorn's thanks for a superb photo.

Perhaps the Bedford is an RL type, with an enclosed box body built on( non-tiltcab) Those old RLs were plentiful in those days, being ex Military in various guises, and were sold off cheaply. They are the same as the legendary Green Goddess Fire Appliances.

BTW, whilst I have not checked it yet, I think the Maranello Ford is the one which appears in DCN's book The Colonel's Ferraris, a highly recommended tome, showing it at Crystal Palace IIRC.

Will check.

Roger Lund.

I notice that the Maranello Concessionaires Bedford has a Wellesley Road, London W4 address on it. That's about half a mile from where I grew up!!

Thanks legendmartini ,again some I hadnt seen!

Roger , the Bedford I was thinking of started in 51 as the S model If I remember right. Will wait for your check! Talking of X-mas , the 2 Maranellos in colour is even more like it!

Gary C , you wouldnt remember other transport vehicles from Maranello? Vans? Do you remember all as being red? How about that Bedford(?) ? Also red as on that photo?

I have some info to the Jag D 3CPF in 699 :
1954 works car from a batch of 6 cars. First XKC 406 then XKD 406,colour BRG, E2003-9/RRW21,loaned to Briggs Cunningham in 55,did 164 mph , and won Sebring . Back to UK Duncan Hamilton purchased it for Abecassis and Head, 5th at Dailey Expr.Silverstone , 6th in SwedenGP. Sold in 57 to J.Forbes-Clark who did sprints and hillclimbs with it, various owners ,in 1970 to Peter Skidmore , this year Duncan Hamilton tried it outfor old sakes , 1972 Sir Nicholas Williamson for hillclimbs , 1980 John Beasleylater Martin Hilton , Alan LawsoncwJohnin 1970 to John Beasley .But from 58(?) to 69 ? So , that doesnt help to whom owned it and perhaps drove it around in that bus!

what a wonderful thread! big info, super pics, thks to all!
legendmartini: guess the kit is an older Eidai Grip in 1:32, not sure if just "fiction" or if there ever was a "real thing" in the US... and as far as I remember, Eidai did also a Tyrrel-Transporter in 1:32 in the 80's

This is the way Ebb Rose of Houston,Texas, brought his cars to the races. Maserati 300S, AC Bristol, Corvette SR2. This is from 1958 and the event was held at Hammond, Louisiana.
photo lent site Richard Macon-research Willem Oosthoek.

What a fabulously evocative photo of an era sadly long gone, Jerry. Great stuff.

Alan: Glad you are enjoying the picture. I sure enjoy the ones you post. Imagine having the pull that Chevrolet would allow you to run one of their prototype cars. I believe Ebb Rose was in the trucking business among other things. He also raced at Indy and was very good friends with his fellow Texan AJ Foyt. Notice his Caddy pulling his Maserati 300S.

Some oldies : Mercedes "silver arrows" and old trucks.

Cars are probably 1938 W154 and 1939 W154/M163. I don't know where, but the second photo could be at the Nurburgring.






Anything different with the F1 paddocks today ?

Splendid Jerry! AND Hubert! Who was Bellevue XXXXX Racing?

Guess that could be Bellvue Garage of Wandsworth, South London - the Evans family who were local estate agents and enjoyed their motor sport, with Wilkie Wilkinson standing guard over their operation.

Siverstone paddock sorry not much detail of transporters !!


and an SMTS 1/43rd scale

My GP was at Wellesley Road. Know it well - parked there the other week and got the tube at Gunnersbury.
But where on earth would Maranello Concessionaires have been exactly?

I'm intrigued. To the best of my knowledge it's always been residential, except maybe where the BSI building car park is? (formerly the IBM Chiswick building of course).

Does anybody know?

Sorry, Im an idiot, can I delete these 2 posts.

I have seen a photo of the Maranello Conc. Ford unloading an F1 car for the 65 racing car show, but cannot find the book source now, perhaps Bjorn can help as I sent him the details. The caption indicated that the truck was operated for Colonel Hoare by a local haulage contractor, so the Wellesley Road bit may well refer to them.

Roger Lund.

Nice effort Rae ! All your own work, I guess ? Bob Dance must be in the back somewhere !

It keeps amazing me ..........I really am enjoying this...............Its a great pleasure..............
Thanks to all for sharing!

Roger, the Thames you mention , I do not recall any text , but I noted it was 1964 , AND that car was the one in 709 /1st in 714(post).

Yes, log in Rae and click on the edit/delete post option at the bottom of each post.

I dont think you are an idiot! (sorry Alan)

Maranellos had a workshop there at the time which was known as 'The Hole in the Wall' so might not have been very obvious.

Mark Shannon

Group 44 Le Mans

From Le Mans 1984 The Group 44 Transport.

Mark, many thanks.

RL

those where the day's

Good tip Nordic , the truck is a GMC with the big Detroit 2 stroke V8 engine around 400bhp.

A long time ago someone went mad deleting their posts...

When they deleted the first post in a thread, it wiped that whole thread. So the rules were changed and it's no longer possible to delete your post if it's the first in a thread. But you can PM Twinny and ask him to move the post and merge the thread with another.

http://www.diecast.org/diecast98/html/asp/...x/reviewpix.htm

Hi wobblyweb

Re your recent post of the photo of the Silverstone paddock. Do you have any others with SPACE racing truck?

Is everybody ready ?
Go to Le Mans ! (1955 - MG EX182)

Sorry Ace, thats the only one.

This vendor is quick and reliable, and fifteen dollars less expensive than the other buy-it-now seller on eBay:

Item # 150055673985

coming soon from Exoto too:
http://www02.exoto.com/Cashier/index.asp?d....asp&Model1=144

Thanks to John Ellacott, I was able to snap this pic of one of his pics taken back in the early sixties, probably 1962... the Lotus 19 came to rest between the Cutting and Reid Park:



Bruce Richardson is in the driver's seat, Matich is putting the jockey wheel into the back of the van. They've obviously just finished loading the car into the trailer.