Having done a little research , I have just been told that post 4 was deleted and thus all other post move up , thats why there is a new post 4. So in a way its solved!

I post this one for my friend Bjorn. I hope it is something new for this forum.

David

Thanks David, see for yourself in the picture, didnt I tell you that a lot was interested in transporters ? (ha-ha) Cant figure out where however, oops ,yes the lights hanging there,LM 68 or 69!
Kind regards Bjørn

PS clarko1230 : Austin it is

Bjorn, I dug real deep to find this one. It was taken in 1958 at or near LeMans. I know nothing else about it?



Do you recognize it?

David

Not at all , does look typical french of that time , looks a bit like Panhard , but then they all looked very alike ,not like the brits. Will have to dig! Very exciting ,but the letters? Could it be a rented car for some of the french teams cars? Hope for other guesses. Will be back!

David please put on the The LM pic with the Ferrari LM no.28 EguipeNationalBelge paddock picture with other transporters!

Societe des Transports Automobiles de l`OUEST IAnd I cant a word French!

You might wonder....I do sometimes , but its just so that I happen to a great deal on trucks and a little on buses. I had acollection of 25.000 trucks pics which I sold , but still work wirh. So my not yet quite out of order brain worked sæowly , cause I had seen that name "STAO" on a bus not long ago....went to the net and they just happened to have a site , under history showing a look alike Davids , this however in bus . Though I cant french it says something with 1960 and looking at it , looks like a rebuild , or just another but as bus, colours red and white. Look for yourself! And it would be very nice if a frenchman or another with french knowledge would write them and ask perhaps? Perhaps that way we would also know the team (?) who used it? Or perhaps none?

At Coronado 2006; not actually nostalgic transporters,
but they transported nostalgic cars, and some day
they will be nostalgic themselves, innit?







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Frank s

This transporter is a Verney. It was not a proper truck but a "truckishly bodied" bus. STAO and Verney were in fact sister companies, with the same shareholders, both based in the Sarthe (the Le Mans area).

STAO was (still is) exploiting regular coach lines in the West of France and, at the time the photo was taken, it also had a secondary activity of local freight deliveries, hence this special bodywork.

Until 1983, Verney was specialised in building "road" and city buses, as well as famous rail buses for narrow gauge railways. STAO was the main customer and user of Verney buses, but not the only one in France.

I do not believe that the example on the photo was used as a racing transporter. In my opinion it was just there in the context of its usual delivery role. If it happens that my statement is wrong and that it was temporarily used as a racing transporter for the 1958 24 Hours, the only plausible possibility is that it was borrowed by the Just-Emile Vernet team for transportation of the VP-Renaults (two were entered in 1958). I say that because Vernet was another Sarthe-based citizen and I think the only Sarthe-based entrant at Le Mans in 1958.

Philippe

cstlhn,

Being a Frenchman myself, I have just forgotten to tell you that I was amazed to find such a photo with such a rare bird on TNF . Typical French atmosphere of the late 50's. In spite of the absence of the smallest racing car on this photo, I enjoy it ! Really.

Presumably now TRANSPORTS VERNEY , the bus company , I think LM racer Annie Charlotte Verney is of the company .

Edward,

I'm not sure of the relation between the Verney company I was speaking about and Anny-Charlotte Verney, but you are possibly right. Verney, Vernay and Vernet (like Just-Emile), all three with the same pronounciation, are rather common patronyms in France.

BONJOUR,
I can confirm that (Any) Charlotte verney was the daughter of STAO owner ,She was well known in Le mans where I was born sixty years ago as "la fille qui court aux 24 heures".Verney was a big company and Stao part of the history of the town,you can imagine...Verney and Stao have been sold ,part to Heuliez ,part to Veolia ,only a company named CBM remains selling spare parts for bus.
The Bus truck was probably an old bus which was converted to take parcels from SNCF station to Stao warehouse from where they will be dispatched ,certainly not for door to door delivery.At Xmas ,when I shall be in Sarthe ,I "ll try to get the answer.Sorry for "my" english.

I agree with you Tarpon. The place where the shot was taken doesn't look Le Mans paddock ( ), but looks like a typical French railway station parking as they were in those days. The white barriers in the background are very much of SNCF style.

Team PR Reilly,Bedford Plaxton Val 14 - sold to Dealer Team Alfa-Romeo in 1976



Roger Springett

Great and interesting pics Roger. I think that Bjorn Kjer is likely to enjoy them too.

Being always interested in exact team names, I'm concluding and discovering from these photos that your entries in 1976 were actually made under the full banner of Roger Springett Racing with Team PR Reilly rather than simply Team PR Really as usually seen in the programmes and statistical surveys.

The photo shows Williamson´s Lotus 73 plus transporter.
Does someone knows if it was used for the F1 team previously?
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I've no idea, but maybe someone else will see it now...

It looks as if my March transporter used the same wheelcovers as this Lotus transporter. Does any know where I might find a complete set of that style wheelcover?

Please reply to ballen@upfrontcoolers.com

Thanks...Bill

that type of hubcap turn up on ebay and what not every so often.

i missed a brand new set of 20"'s that would suit my transporter - they went for 60 quid, but i was having a very skint week

the are very thin alloy and get damaged really easily

ive since spent about 20 hours polishing mine with wire wool and autosol.........

I had posted this one on another board so if you seen it before, my apologies.



The front of the Ferrari transporter behind the 4 liter Testarossa,



David

Again a superb photo. Thank you very much for sharing it. Any idea of the place and the year ?

Monza 58 Race of two worlds and Le Mans 62

Thanks for the latest great pictures guys!

heres a couple more, dont know much about the bus

the mini is a vita 8 port special saloon

I must admit this was a thread that I didn't think would interest me much but it is half interesting.

I have two trasporter stories:-

Firstly; when Dad was racing the Astons for Geoffrey Marsh ('79-04) the Transporter they used from '79 to '98 (?) was the ex-Tyrrell trasporter from the '70s and I can tell you there was no draw for Gerry Marshall, but there were lots of draws for Mrs Tyrrell!! Marsh Plant used this transporter for many years (kept it orignal) and as far as I know it was never sold (?).

The second transporter story I have is from about '84 when dad had his garage in Tring. He bought an ex-BRM transporter (I think it was a Ford something) with two BRM F1 cars in it (I can't remember what they were). Dad paid £2,500 for the transporter and cars (and spares) and sold it a week later for £9,500, a very healthy profit!

No matter what BRMs they were I'm sure that could've been sold for a lot more!!

The Shelby transporter at Bridgehampton.



Very primative, David

Thanks for sharing all the lastest fab. pics.!
post 567/8 Clarko/Ray ,who is who ? and then who is the other?
post 571 any guess of colour on this one? Ecosse also had another darker one , blue?

Regards Bjørn

hello everybody
i am very interested by any information or pic about the jw automotive and later gulf research
racing company's AEC truck (what kind of chassis,where was done the special design)
even later under the GTC's colour in the usa
thanks beforehand
philippeMERVEILLE a former jw and grrc team mate

philippe , you can Mail or PM me.

Here is something on some private firms driving racing cars around:

Baricchi,Modena took Ferraris (also new private racers)around for many years at least up to 67 incl.supp.veh. with Fiat , Bartoletti Fiat(earlier Ferrari) and OM.(2 stage transporters)

Servizo Renzi , from ? Had a Bartoletti Lancia with 3 axle trailer (not a semi-trailer) drove Francorchamps cars to LM in late 50s and Stanguellini FJuniors(2 stage transp.).

S.Smith & Co. (S.S & Co.) Downham Rd. Ltd. London, took care of most Ferrari transports in Britain
in the early 60s with Bedfords, normal lorrys or with box on.

S.T.A.O , la Sarthe....well we shall wait and see.!

Walon ,Paris , used a Unic 2 stage with 3 axle lowbuild trailer (not semi-trailer. Drove Fords and Cobras in 64-65.

Comments or further infos are very welcome

Dear Bjorn,

Thanks for your answer, but my very precise research for the moment concerns the AEC truck belonging to the GW (JOHN WYER PLUS JOHN WILLMENT) Automotive Engineering Ltd later GULF RESEARCH RACING COMPANY. To be very clear you'll find attached 2 pics in the URL :


http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/139/fergusxn4.jpg


Regards
PHM

John Wyer AEC transporter was a 1968 Regal VI lefthand drive coach chassis built new for JW ,it was reg.1129BH and 069KX before getting KKX328G.
Sorry, whats the URL?
info from TNF member , regards Bjørn

hi BJORN
well done my friend,a lot of good news,now i will try to have the name of the company who
built the special body and the wheelbase and others dimensions.but if you have or can have
these information by your side,it 'll be very nice
the url i gave you at the end of my last message is to connect you by a copy-stick(copier-coller
in french)to pics of the AEC
FRIENDLY
phm

nice 'poodle perm' haircut in the first photo!

hi
an other pic of the truck

A bit slow maybe!! Reply to post No 14.

Refering to the PEGASO Codfish Transporter. Here are three photos of the transporter about to leave for Spain with two Lola T100 F2 cars on board. Date March 1968. Place back of the old Lola factory Slough. Drivers Alex Soler-Roig and Jorge de Bagration. Team Escuderia Nacional Cavo Soleto. (spelling may not be accurate). It was then used to take the cars from Montjuic Park to Jarama the same year and was replaced by a brand new PEGASO transporter.

Welcome John, you have been mentioned in previous topics , you must have many great stories to tell , please tell us more .

Philippe's first post doesn't appear so I have taken the liberty of uploading it here - apologies Philippe

Superb pics guys ,who would have thought that of the "cod", and JWAE finally in colour.
In Philippes pic the Ferry seems to carry the Norwegian flag?

Many thanks for sharing, Bjørn

Great Pics!!!!
Another one from the "Pegaso Bacalao"
"Bacalao" is "cod fish" due to the shape of this peculiar transporter

Bonjour ,
an another view of Pegaso Bacalao , perhaps here in original condition , dark and light blue , white.

hello lads!!
1rt:reply to guru 1071: yes it's a nice cut but it's not me just an another grrc guy
chris JHONSON(curly!!)you will see my style at that time at the end
2sd:reply to alan COX: no problemo,at that moment ,i didn't knew how to upload(bloody frogs!!)
regards
philippe

http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php...80&goto=newpost

sorry wrong again

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one more one
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last try!!!!

jesus CHRIST i suceed

now to BJORN :the flag must the TOWNSEN-THORENSEN ferry line (P AND O line)
philippe

phil,

your missing the

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off the end of your '.......jpg]'

but you will need to delete the ']' if you type it in.

i.e ......jpg[/img]

not ....jpg][/img]

i always 'preview' any post when i post a picture, just to make sure, as when i 'cut&paste' the IMG link from photobucket it sometimes misses the end off - which i guess is what happened to you!

the photo above is of the 1967 bedford VAL panorama that i bought to break for spares for my VAM transporter.

ive used the engine and a lot of the wood from the caravan conversion (all nice english oak) to redo the front half of mine - very nice, but it had no real race provonence, apart from a previous owner had used it when he raced a truck - dont know who he was though.

the rest was cut up for scrap, it was very rotten

rich

Hey Philippe , I like your last picture much better than all that imageschack , couldnt see much, so please keep on with picture , thanks ! Great!

Good shot guru , superb front view for modellers too! Thanks !

Bjørn

Is that Gordon Murray in Phillippe's Mirage shot in post no. 595???

sorry BONDE
unfortunatly it's not mr MURRAY at that time i think he was pretty young and not working
for the gulf research racing company.
it's just me
phm