Hi ,
Apologies if this has already been flagged up

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-D-EX-FORMULA-ON...id=p3286.c0.m14

Post 1844/45/46/49 :

Having tried to study this , I think you could be right Roger , but more a 2300 than a 2800 , I believe.

Bjorn, check this guys' photos. Nice one of 69 Ferrari on there...could be more, haven't had time though
http://picasaweb.google.com/Marcstarter

Not so sure Bjorn, 2300 door curves around front wheel arch, yet a distinctive notch on the Rothman's vehicle. Also does not appear to be a recess in the door behind door handle. Ignore the curving body in front of door by the door hinge - that confused me for a while until I realised that the picture has been scanned from a book / magazine / brochure and is actually a scan of a double page spread and that's the curving of the paper down the centre.

See post 569 here
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?show...p;#entry3930066
for shots of some support vehicles at the revival
Roger Lund

Trying to find info about the old March F1 transporter to help with restoration, it was built in we think 1967 (?) by Reall Coachbuilders Ltd in Windsor. It was originally red but we don`t know the exact colour. We assumed it might be STP as March were sponsored by them around that time but it seems a lighter red. Anyone got any ideas ? Long shot I know.
alex.

Hey Bjorn have you got any shots of the Maki transporter? From this it looks like a mini-artic http://www.flickr.com/photos/cx500/3933194987/sizes/l/ Maybe a VW or Merc?

IIRC reading an interview with Howden Ganley where he said they used a borrowed or rented box truck .

No pictures , sorry. It does look a bit like a MB 406/8 tractor with a semitrailer. Will try some checking.
But the MAKI was white , wasnt 'it , and it was 1975 ? When was it blue ? Many years later in historic F1 ?

I think it was both colours during the course of the season, maybe started off white? Anyway as the transporters the same colour you would guess they are related. So a lightweight artic really, a bit like the Merc one Zakspeed had with the single axle trailer.

This is a Fiat chaps, Im pretty sure. Might be badged for one of their subsidiaries but a FIAT nonetheless.

Its not a DAF of that I am sure, look at the windsreen - DAFs had a squarer two piece screen at the corners.

Actually I could be talking complete bollocks as it also reminds me of a Seddon-Atki 400.
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=seddon...l=en&tab=wi

Right, start again! Im now convinced its a Dodge R38 or at the outside a Barreiros from Spain, but more likely to be the Dodge - they both used the same cab, I think they were all part of Chrysler.

Heres the proof, check the indicators:
http://ccmv.fotopic.net/p44851827.html

They were a fairly rare sight on the roads in the 70s and 80s, and usually with the early ones they languished by the side of the road. Which probably accounts for John Macdonald complaining when his transporter broke down in 83 on the way down into Europe, although his big bugbear was none of the other teams stopped - probably knew how unreliable the Dodge's were. I think engines were Cummins as far as I recall, with perhaps Dodges own unit of up to around 240/260 hp?

Anyway its a Dodge. Im not changing my mind again.

Who are you , a Brit with an Italian name or a fan name? Come bursting onto the scene here , me waiting to write NO- NO -NO !

And the only one I did not check , because who would go for that one ? IS THE RIGHT ONE !

Thanks Ghinzani , well done !

That is luscious! Just needs a 5th wheel and a trailer to be perfect.

Not a genuine transporter, but I thought it's a great job done here.
Spanish PEGASO bus converted into a race transporter 2008 / 2009.








Many thanks
BRIMEN

This was parked in the paddock at Paul Ricard yesterday - a proper race transporter!

It especially looked great against all the massive modern transporters behind.

UK registered so he had done some miles to get down there.

Brilliant stuff.

I have a feeling that is Ivan Dutton's Lotus XI along with Alvis tow car.

O/T a bit....In which case, if it is, I suspect that it will have been "improved" somewhat, based on his experienece with the Grey Lady which he raced with GDRM. I recall your father exiting the car in the Paddock at the Revival after a storming drive, settling in to walk with his crutches. Some driver.........
Roger Lund

Thanks Roger, very kind of you.
To add a little bit; I visited Ivan about two months ago and he showed me his lovely Lotus XI (minus bodywork) and a convertible Alvis that he was going to use as a tow car and I know that he has just got back from Europe, so hopefully my 2 plus 2 does equal 4 - unfortunately Ivan had so many interesting projects, not to mention 20 plus 911s (and that's not event starting on Tim's Bugattis!!) so I was a bit over-awed!!
If it is his Alvis, then yes, this one has also been very improved as he built it up with all the left over (and some improved) bits from the Alvis he and Dad shared at Goodwood.

I believe lots of people were very surprised at just how well that old 3 ltr motor could be developed. Vintage Racecar did a full test of it a couple of months before I started to subscribe, so if anyone has a copy of it....
Roger Lund

Riga, 1978...

here's one from this afternoon (I suppose it JUST qualifies as nostalgia as the season is finished??), the McLaren truck set up for tomorrow's 'Powered By Mercedes-Benz' event at Mercedes-Benz World in Surrey

All over the net I have tried , but not found. Would any of you have the main dimensions , mainly rthe height of a common Britsh Bus half cabin single stage of the 1940-50 types used by Gould, Connaught , Ecosse etc. ???

Buy your own!

The BMC Competitions Department stormed the world’s racing circuits and rally courses during the 1950s and 1960s with a seemingly endless array of “works” Austin-Healeys, MGs and Minis. During this era, BMC also produced a number of unique bus-type vehicles based on the proven BMC/Morris FFK 140 commercial truck chassis.

http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?...D=r502&fc=0

Mercedes Benz show off 75 years of transporters

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=21075

I am new to this forum and have joined because I am proposing to produce what I hope will be an attractive book on the subject of Racing Car Transporters ... long overdue, I believe!
Publishers seem to expect authors to have their own collection of photos but I don't have any of my own. This a plea to ask if their is anyone out there who would be willing to help me in building up a collection of photos for the book. I don't expect to make any money out of this project as it is not going to be a "best seller" but on the other hand, I don't want it to cost me a lot of money! I just want fill a glaring gap in the annals of motor sport history [ without infringeing any copyright! ]
Also, brief technical / general details of vehicles used [ and those who used them ] together with any relevant "stories" would be enormously helpful .
PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU THINK YOU CAN HELP ... thanks in anticipation !

Welcome to the forum. I think there are quite a few transporter enthusiasts on here. If you use the 'Search' 'More Search Options' feature at the top of the page and select thread titles, searching on 'transporters', you'll find plenty of discussion and detail. It may help you identify the likely suspects to help with your project!

Many thanks for your helpful and very speedy reply!...David

This is the main transporter thread:

Transporters

THANKS... IS IT POSSIBLE TO TRANSFER MY TOPIC TO transporters RATHER THAN STARTING FROM SCRATCH AGAIN?
DAVID

I've passed on your request to Twin Window, the host of this forum.

Not wishing to rain on your would-be parade, but......
There is a little group of us here who are interested in Transporters, as you will see if you read, or should have read, the original thread, all of whom work together to build our own personal archives, mostly off-line, as many do on many other vehicles/marques. What may be supplied or posted for private use is a different proposition for commercial publication. Your profile shows that you are bright enought to know that..
It is highly unlikely that posters of shots of older trucks own the copyright, so be very careful. Publishers expect you to supply, and pay for, any shots which you wish to use, unless they do it for you and charge you, not to have your own collection.
People or magazines who own collections on a commercial basis do it as a business and have bought the photographs and the rights. . I have found them to be most obliging and reasonable for a small run publication.
No offence is intended, but there are several of us here who have a "thing" about copyright issues and it never hurts to raise the issue.
BTW are you planning to do the tech description and history yourself?. There is a resistance on here just to give indiscriminate handouts.
Roger Lund
PS for some time I have had a small marque research project running, so I know the time, effort and cost involved. I am not just sniping. RL

Have you seen the German-language book on Renntransporters that came out a couple or three years back?

Rick

Rick ... Brilliant ! I have located a copy and will now arrange German language lessons !
Thanks..... David

Roger ... dear me! I seem to have trodden on your [ and your "little group's"] toes? Whilst not an expert on copyright, I am aware of the basic problems as evidenced in my original posting and I am happy to pay for use of photos if required to do so , subject to cost.
Am I missing your point?
In answer to your question about my plans to do the history myself, I am not sure how I am proceeding at the moment. The project will not proceed without photos anyway, which is why I put in the original post.
Do you not think it is time a book was produced on this subject... I am not aware of any publication ? Are you ?
Is there anyone out there who is proposing a book?
Any comments would be welcome.
David

No offence taken, then. I thought my post was self explanatory as a general caveat, especially since the interweb seems to be awash with non-owned images, and many posted here are not owned by the posters, even though not done for personal gain. Whilst I value the postings on the cutaways drawing thread, there is a clear copyright issue in many cases, I suspect.
BTW, being condescending about us will win you few friends and supporters. Have you much knowledge or experience of commercial vehicles yourself? What era would you cover as that will determine the task you have in all respects? Are you able to offer a detailed technical appraisal of the vehicles and their relevance or pertinence? Just asking.
I am sure TNFer "retriever" will fill you in with any details about publishing books per se, and about commercials in particular.
Roger Lund

davcrossie (and others), try Google :

8w.forix.com

Then click "What?" on the left

And scroll down a bit to "How they got there"

Bjorn ... Thank you very much. That was most helpful !
David

The film these stills are from is on YouTube- shows the hydraulic lift in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMZvTLcwy0c&NR=1

There, in the Brabham area, is Carlos Reutemann chating with some guy. Reutemann wears sunglasses, in typical seventies fashion.

looks like Paul Michaels standing beside Watson (in blue jeans).

Just doing a bit of research on Commers, I found a recent photo of this restored flatbed lorry which, it says, was originally used as a racing car transporter. I wonder what it carried, or who originally owned it?????

Commer lorry

Rick

Rick , in post 1889 you'll find the way to the only one I have seen yet , but may add that Dunlop also had some boxed ones at races..

A friend of mine has asked me to post the following comments :

Post 1845 : These "big" Dodges was build at the Barreiros plant and got a Dodge badge for the British market.

Post 1847 : This is the "old" Wheatcroft /Donington Collection car , on a Bristol chassis originally CUT 730K and new in March 1972.

Post 1856 : There is a full A4 page available with specifications if interested , mail me if you want it.

Everybody knows this great japonese site which name is "Piccolino",

There is a lot of models transporters and among them such unknown as

The Asa transporters and Ferrari Bisarca used at targa,probably a works truck .

Just here:http://piccolina.727.net/nuovo_200907_camion.html

at the difference of some exotic Exoto,these have existed,see the pictures.

The Ferrari transporter described in "Piccolina" website was a 2 axles Fiat 643N Bisarca (opendeck) with bodywork made by Carrozzeria Rolfo .
It was registered in 1964 with license plate MO-101146 and was owned by Ferrari in the second half of sixties.
This other picture shows the same transporter at Targa Florio 1966.

On the upper deck two Dinos 206 SP : n°196 of Guichet-Baghetti (2nd) and n°210 of Biscaldi-Casoni (14th)
on the lower deck the P3 n° 230 of Vaccarella-Bandini (dnf)

I' don't have news about the Asa transporter, but it really seems the same type of transporter .
Both transporters are reproduced in limited series by GILA Modelli s.a.s. , I think that they are sold out.

Ciao
Andrea

Hi all,

I have a couple of interesting pictures which initiated some research on my side, and I wonder if you could help me finding answers.

First one.

Here are two photos of a transporter used by Team Lotus in 1960 (at least) for its non F1 races. It has been used at least for F2 and FJ events. I have no pictures of the front side of this transporter, and I wonder if somebody could help me identifying the transporter and providing pictures of the front end.

My feeling is that this transporter is Trevor Taylor's own transporter, as he used it in 1959 to carry his Copper F2. A close look at the back doors shows a curious sign composed of a steering wheel with the three letters "T A G" embedded. On the side view, we can hardly see that there is an address and phone number mentionned on the bottom. My feeling is that it's written "Taylors Ace Garages Bramley Roterham" and "Phone Wickersley 3148". This sounds correct as Trevor's father was running a garage near Roterham called "Ace Garage", Trevor's 1959 championship entry being under the Ace Garage banner, and I saw on a map that both Bramley and Wickersley are suburbs of Roterham.

Who can help ?

Another unknown Lotus transporter, another search...

Here are two photos of a transporter used by Team Lotus in 1955. This is the first proper transporter ever used by Team Lotus, together with Cliff Allison's Bedford OWB bus. I know this transporter has been used at least to carry the 9EHX Lotus Mk IX at Goodwood on May 30th 1955 and at Le Mans on June 16th.

I would like to identify the tractor of this transporter. It really looks like a Commer Q25cwt. Anyone can confirm ?

Does anyone have other pictures of this transporter?

Any help would be appreciated.

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