With six races left to go Spa seemed to narrow it down a bit, but the title is still open to the above given the points per race and the penalties for a single DNF. Assuming current form stays true for Monza one might suspect that McLaren have a good shot there, after that it might get tricky. But of course there's still the flying canard out there ; what happens to the Red Bull with the new test implementations? One would think that their massive advantage will be reduced somewhat on the slower circuits, but is that combined with McLaren's iterations enough to swing the balance in the Woking teams favor?

Personally I think Alonso is out of it, they too could be penalized by the new stringent tests - certainly Aldo Costa's irritation at the new tests would suggest they've had to do something and they didn't look that great at Spa. Button too I don't think has it in him, clearly the slower of the McLaren drivers it would take a pretty odd swing to seem him haul in Hamilton let alone win the WDC. Hamilton has a great shot, but only if the gap between McLaren and Red Bull is massively decreased after Monza and Monza he takes full points. Red Bull probably the most interesting, Vettel needs to get mature and start just winning races ASAP or he's going to be beaten to the title in a way that will probably haunt him for the rest of his days. Webber has to stay on course, keep it steady, bring the points, hope Vettel continues to balls up. If that happens I'd say it's Mark's title bar performance changing radically.

Hamilton will take the WDC. Red Bull won't get the dominance back that they once had.

Webber has only beat Hamilton on the weekends the RB6 was mega and basically invincible. Whenever the MP4-25 got too close for comfort, Hamilton came out ahead. I voted for Hamilton assuming the trend will prevail. And we can never be sure if Vettel is done with taking points from Webber or not.

The other three contenders have a lot in their hands, especially Button and Vettel who race against their teammates.

I agree Atreiu but I think the RBR will stretch away from McLaren after Monza.

I think Webber WilL prevail in the End,Vettel showed us again this week end that he is still a bit too imature to challenge all the way for the title,webber on the week end the red bull is unbeatable showed us that he is able to cope with the pressure and wen it came down to it he brings points home, and wen facing advercity like this week end he keeps a cold head, and get on with it and settle on getting points when win is out of reach, and that is the mark( no Pun Intended) Of great Champions...Hamilton is still there as well, and Monza should be a track more suitable to the Mclarens,but after that i think red bull will be back to their previous form ans webber will take the crown..

I wouldn't like to call it, other than saying one of Webber or Hamilton, I don't think the others will haul them in.

I think the RB6 will shine again after Monza, so Webber is the favorite,

It's Webber's to lose. Any slip up's and Lewis will be right there to take full advantage though.

It feels like Webber is smelling blood. He will not let this one go.

I think this one will be decided by which driver makes less mistakes, and by this logic I tend slightly towards Hamilton at the moment, with Webber inredibly close, and Vettel being the dark horse. Imo Alonso nad his crew are out and I wouldn't bet on Button either.

I think if Vettel finishes ahead of Webber in Monza and wins in Singapore then he will do it amazingly after all that's gone on - it's a bit like a striker who needs a goal to get over a great loss of form at the moment.

If he doesn't in Monza or Singapore then it's Webber's to lose as I think the RB6 will be the better car than the MP4-25 over the rest of the season and Vettel will back up Webber - and I don't see MW losing it given it's possibly the best chance he'll ever have and he looks to be very focused with it.

It depends on how much the new FIA tests will affect Red Bull's pace on the higher downforce tracks.

That's if the FIA to remember to keep doing the new tests after Monza otherwise Red Bull will walk it with their flexi wing floors.

Even then it'll be hard to topple the Red Bull on the rest of the circuits outside Monza. McLaren need upgrades, luck, rain and for Red Bull to keep being stupid. Ferrari need that and more.

I still think Webber or Vettel will win it. Vettel just needs to make sure his races consist of him riding solo out front instead of actually having to race anyone, then he can win the WDC.

I'm not a redbull fan but hope Webber gets it, he's the oldest of the lot and it might be his last chance to clinch it. But if I had to put a bet on I would only put my money on Hamilton, he's had a real boost from Spa and is looking very strong for Monza, if he gets the win there then I think he'll do it. Vettel will have his chance again, he needs to mature a bit as he has too many ups and downs. Jenson has faired much better than anyone thought he would against Lewis but I still can't see him winning the title. Spa was a big blow to Alonso's hopes but as we all now know he has the bonus of having help from his team mate, however Ferrari will have to come up with something pretty special for Monza to get him back in the fight.

For Webber for sure

I just have a gut feeling that McLaren have found some of the potential of the EBD following the strange sounds from the engine at Spa. Couple this to their abilities to produce up-grades during previous seasons and I think Lewis Hamilton will end the season as champion.
There just seems to be much more of a team "working together" at McLaren than at RB.

There just seems to be much more of a team "working together" at McLaren than at RB.
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Monza - McLaren
Singapore - Red Bull
Suzuka - Red Bull
Korea - McLaren
Brazil - Red Bull
Abu Dhabi - McLaren

Looking close. Not to mention the likes of Force India and Renault potentially coming into play in Monza and maybe Abu Dhabi. McLaren should have closed the gap now so I think it'll be very, very close. RBR should dominate Singapore but the place seems to hate Webber - a practice crash in 08 + 09 and 2 retirements.

Contrary to what a lot of fans seem to think F1 is a best car wins series, not a spec series. You may say that this is trite but this is the only way that we can account for a view that anyone other than MW or SV can be WDC..... That Redbull is mighty. If they lose either title it can only be through their own fault.

I certainly don't buy the suggestion that it is a two-horse race now, a lot can and probably will happen in terms of accidents and mechanical issues that mean Vettel, Button and Alonso are still very much in the running.

With that said, I do think that either Webber or Hamilton will prevail.

On the assumption (after Monza) that the RB6 remains the fastest/best car then Hamilton needs to win at Monza (I think he will) to ratchet up the pressure. In a straight fight and a points advantage I would take Lewis over Webber to handle the pressure better.

I expect Red Bull to struggle at Monza and I expect McLaren to struggle in Singapore. The rest of the circuits appear to be 'neutral'. Limiting damage at those circuits where the car is relatively weak will be imperative.

Hamilton - just.

Button could play a key factor in the deciding races if he can manage to split the Redbulls (that is if he manages to avoid CrashBashTian Vettel), and both RB drivers take points from one and other, the title of 2010 will most likely belong to Hamilton - at which point Fernando Alonso will explode (can someone stick that on Youtube when it happens please - it will go viral).

Having said that there are a lot of imponderables - how well will the RB duo qualify in respect to McLaren, will JB play rear gunner if and when it's neccessary, can Ferrari spoil the party, etc....

My money (if i was a gambling man) still rests with Hamilton though, but only by around 4 - 7 points. I really think it will be that close.

If he (Lewis) wins three more races, than he´ll probably be a champion. Six races left, so 3 out of 6 will be enough. His first good chance will be at Monza. But! After that all remaining tracks are RB teritory, so it will be very hard for McLaren and Lewis. It´s all about Singapore upgrades for McLaren. After that race we'll have much more to say.

Imagine if Hamilton beats Webber by 4 points. Wont a certain elderly Austrian chap feel like a bit of a Turkey then?

It's Redbull's to lose, the car advantage is too big to catch up at this stage. But anything can happen in F1. McLaren need one or two DNF for Webber and Vettel.

I think Hamilton, but only if the McLaren upgrade at Singapore works and put them close to the Red Bulls on high downforce tracks. If this doesn't happen then it's Webber's to lose and if McLaren can't do it then I'd love to see Mark win the title (with McLaren still getting the WCC ).

If Jenson can get up to the front and not get punted off by wonderbrat i could see a far large gap between Lewis and Mark in two weeks.
But saying that still too many races to go and as we saw last weekend one fool/mistake can change it for any of the top two.
That being said i dont see Mark and Lewis BOTH messing up they have both been consistent (car problems and silly teammate (vettel) aside) for most of the season.
I hope Lewis comes out top. The effect it will have on teflonso is just an added bonus to me

Button has the maturity and the know-how, not to mention the team-play attribute, to back Hamilton up. I'm not so sure if Vettel would do the same to Webber.

the red bull CAR will dominate the last five of six races... but the red bull cab drivers with their throw-away mentality...

the red bull get pole in spa (surprise, surprise!!!), so the CAR is on other tracks furthermore in his own league.

i will put my money on: WEBBER

Hard to call but I also think it will be between Wibbah and Hamilton. I'd be happy to see either win to be honest, they've both had really good seasons/

Redbull needs to make a call after Monza (especially if Hamilton wins it as I expect him to) ... they either get behind ONE driver for the WDC and probably win it or keep this silliness going and probably lose it. IMO Vettel blew this year's WDC in Spa.

I have a feeling that Vettel will come into Webber's way more often than Button in Hamilton's from now on.

That I am feeling Hamilton is a favourite now. Although RedBull remains in IMO car to beat. Unless Monza floor flexing tests will damage them.

But it's only feeling and only words. I am not going to put my money where my mouth is. At least not big money. :-)

Totally agree. As long as VunderBrat or Teflonso don't claim the title, i'll be happy to see either Hamilton, Button or Webber win.

It certainly didn't help ; Monza might be key - but post that there's no reason Vettel can't win every remaining race . . other than well, Vettel.

Consider the outcome of the last races on statistics based on the season so far:

Alonso will make a stupid error 3/6 races.
Vettel will make a stupid error at least 1/6 races.

If the car doesn't have a problem, Webber will win Monza (he would have won Spa if not for clutch issues).

This leaves Hamilton and Webber, then it comes down to rain.

Either way, 2010 is the best season since....sometime in the 90s.

Far be it from me to defend Teflonso, but i can't think of two more glaring errors made by any driver than Vettel this season, so i don't quite understand where you get your figures from.

When it comes to points mean prizes = mistakes, Vettel is in a league of one.

Whose title is it anyway?

Webber's.

Aha, the Anglo-Saxon axis.

As long as the German and the Spaniard don't win it....

My guess:-

Webber - Hamilton - Vettel - Button - Alonso




Maybe you want to check what Anglo-Saxon means.......

Anglo-Saxons is the term usually used to describe the invading Germanic tribes in the south and east of Great Britain from the early 5th century AD, and their creation of the English nation, to the Norman conquest of 1066.[1] The Benedictine monk, Bede, identified them as the descendants of three Germanic tribes:[2]

* The Angles, who may have come from Angeln (in modern Germany), and Bede wrote that their whole nation came to Britain,[3] leaving their former land empty. The name England (Old English: Engla land or Ængla land) originates from this tribe). [4]
* The Saxons, from Lower Saxony (in modern Germany; German: Niedersachsen), and Holland
* The Jutes, from the Jutland peninsula (in modern Denmark; Danish: Jylland)

Their language, Old English, derives from "Ingvaeonic" West Germanic dialects and transformed into Middle English from the 11th century. Old English was divided into four main dialects: West Saxon, Mercian, Northumbrian and Kentish.

You need to look at the races again, starting with the jump start at China, which is far more bush-league than anything Vettel has done.
Spa was one mistake after another for Fernando-the-grouch.

Lewis 50%
Mark 30%
Sebastian 15%
Jenson 5%

Thanks for the stereotype. Not.

Contrary to what you are most likely trying to imply, not all Anglo Saxons (if very few for that mater) hate Germans, Spanish, etc. Please explain the massive fan base Michael Schumacher still has in the UK if you may.

Whilst you're at it, then if i'm correct in your reference, let's talk about the collective hang up of at least one television station in Spain (to this day) regarding the "people's champion", Fernando Alonso, and his arch nemesis, Dick Dastardly aka Lewis Hamilton. I reference you below :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEkK9g3KMVE


Have you ever stopped and considered that there are legitimate concerns as to why I (and many others) do not want Alonso or Vettel to win the WDC ? There are well publicised incidents during the course of this season which have not endeared either driver to many people.

If you're British though, it's because we're a bunch of racist bastards. Sorry, but i really detest posts like yours.

What does it matter what race the winner is?

Please don't selectively quote me.

I'm pretty sure Vettel's mistakes have cost more points than Alonso's, although i will happily apologise if you can prove otherwise.

It's just the implicaiton that Anlgo-Saxons (and to most people that means British) only are capable of supporting their fellow countrymen, which to be honest is as far removed from the truth as you can possibly imagine.


....and back on topic, Hamilton for the WDC, 7 points. We should ask for a sticky topic with predictions of 1-2-3, and by what margin.

Indeed last I looked the Angles and Saxons were German.

This being a British forum, there is a certain tendency among the posters - that is not you personally. And yes, I know, there is a strong group of MS fans among the British, which is inexplicable to me.
Probably it has to do with sympathies, and Vettel and Alonso didn't make themselves new friends this year.

Myself - being an Austrian - I am still rooting for Webber.

Exactly. It doesn't.

The poster was implying Anglo-Saxon dislike for Germans. Rather strange when the Anglo-Saxons are of German decent.

The last time i looked up a phraze to adequately describe your post the word "pedantic" was proffered as an explanation, as if we want to go far enough back, we all eminate from the same infiniately small, dense piece of matter which exploded approximately 14.7 billion years ago creating the universe as we know it.

But that's off topic.

and i still say Hamilton to win, 7 points from Webber, and that's my best guess - a bit like judging how old the universe is really....

I think marks best placed to take it at the moment, with that car, and how hes driving now, but its still entirely open

....rather dislike for Spaniards. How is he being called around these quarters - monobrow, Teflonso etc.?

In fact, there is a strong sympathy that Vettel has for all things British, and I also do know that many Brits like Vettel. Although he has not made himself many new friends lately.

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That has nothing to do with where he comes from, he just got involved in a couple of high profile F1 scandals and nothing stuck to him, so teflon-so after the infamous non-stick pan material.