According to the official website:



Here's the layout:



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I'm intrigued by the remark that the straight is 1.2Km long. Longer than China which is about 1.17Km long. Of which it looks massive compared to the rest of the circuit, which is 5.5Km compared to Korean which is 5.615Km. Comparing the two, that straight doesn't look nearly as big as the Chinese one on paper...if you get what I mean.

Also, couldn't find anything about this on search, so decided to make a topic about it...

I don't have much to say, but that track looks far too squiggly for my liking.

Looks alright.

Turn 11 looks very much like T8 in turkey. RB6 will be flatout thru that if they are similar.

And why couldnt they make the pit lane on the inside?
Outside pit lanes increase the time the cars take to pit and pit jumping would require a gap of about 30 seconds.

Why, hello Valencia.

How's the track progressing ?

Haven't seen any latest photographs or something and the site is pretty rough too.

Perhaps they're measuring from Turn 1 to Turn 3?

Its hard to say looking at this whether or not Turn 2 will be flat out, but given the low speeds they'll be at, it very possibly will be, which will essentially make it one long straight. Guess it'll depend on the track width, but yea it doesn't look as long as China's on-paper.

Either way, it could be quite good for overtaking, as they'll be coming into Turn 1 at high speed into a hard braking zone. If you defend here, you're gonna compromise your exit onto the longer straight afterwards. Its kind of like the formula that Abu Dhabi has used with straight - hard braking zone - straight back section, that seems to work quite well for action. And even after Turn 3, there's another length straight into another tight corner, which means that anybody battling into Turn 3 will have to be wise to set themselves up for Turn 4 as well. We could see a decent amount of back and forth stuff if we're lucky.

The rest of the track is gonna be quite busy for the drivers, it seems. I'm not the sort that just sees a bunch of squiggles and says, "Mickey mouse", or "boring" cuz its obviously not always the case. I'd have to drive it before judging. Hopefully they'll have it up for rFactor sometime around when the Korean GP comes around.

Seems like they tried to fit as many slow corners in there as they could

A lot of those corners are gonna be pretty quick, actually.

It might be a fun track to drive, it might not be. Hard to tell just by looking at a top-down of the layout.

It's just a badly scaled diagram, the straight is 1.2km long the render shows the infield section to be proportionately way bigger than it it

Red line runs parallel to the straight


This is a better render

That plan explains the strange corner shapes at the end of the lap. It's the way it works its way through the streets and round the marina.

Not much excitement about this one is there?

Personally I think it looks very interesting and could well provide some excellent overtaking moments.

MW in front after Seb's bad start, Seb then has a flat or something, and ends up back of field, a Sauber or HRT loses rear wing parts, the SC comes out and seb finishes say 5th. Mark wins inaugural race. I love the track already! Bah like it's been said, it's the cars that are at fault not the tracks mostly, though Brazil seems to ignore any bad turbulent air there actually lol...

We're not even sure if it will be on the grid with 100% certainty yet unfortunately.

Slow corners and a whopping great straight, I think that might just suit Ferrari the best, actually.

Or it will be just be another bog-standard F1 track.

Looking more promising than I first saw it.Now seems to have a city centre part.

But which one? Oh nevermind. Massa is just Alonso' towel boy. Well Mark or ALonso winning is fine for me.

I think that's proposed. None of the construction photos really showed anything like that level of build-up.

Terrible, this "noodle" layout sucks.

I like it, some people are being far to damning far to quick, look at T7 T8 and even T9, they look like fast challenging corners quick change of direction for T's 7/8 plues T17 and 18 look tricky, could easily see some one have trouble getting the power down if under pressure creating a chance in to T1 then a chance to respond in to T3 and then T4, think it could be a good'un.

The layout looks good but it'll be ruined by car park run off areas.

if you buy the f1 2010 game you'll be able to judge before the actual race

Haha, good call, will be interesting to see how lap times compare between in game and reality.

If you compare the two track maps, turns 1 and 2 are very different. Which one is the correct layout?

Looks like another great Hermann Tilke gem. A real classic from one of the best circuit designers. Ever.

I don't like the looks of it.
Once more there's a track with half a dozen or more of slow hairpins and corners.

Well spotted. I think the tighter T1 and more open T2 is the final layout.

This is the "official" render as submitted pre construction



I believe turn 1 has been move slightly forward and made considerably tighter on a redesign but ... can't offer much beyond "believe"

That final light blue section is what's wrong with it I think: just a bunch of corners added to fit in to some grand architectural plan. If there's anything a track designer should learn from Valencia and Abu Dhabi it is that an F1 track doesn't need a marina. It won't get Monaco atmosphere anyway.

Back in the 80's or 90's, I could have draw every tracks quite accurately on a sheet of paper. They almost all had their own caracter. Today I wouldnt be able to do it for almost all new tracks, Valencia, Singapoore, Abu Dhabi, Bahrein and now this one ... all the same sh*t. I dont know, it seems that Tilke knows to draw only 4 or 5 types of turns and just changes the order between them each time he has to built a new track. And of course he never forgets the 1km+ big long straight where those incredible cars reach insane speeds of 320kph, when, 10 years ago, they did not even need that distance to reach 360kph at Monza.
F1 sucks.

This looks about as exciting as a pair of fake tits along with the silicon lips (the straight).

I will pass-

We saw Seb do that in Silverstone.

This time I will let Mark's fan have some share of the fun.

are there no virtual laps available?? donington had one and that was a long time before that was due to be raced on :/

Here is an rfactor onboard video, but unfortunately there are no landmarks of any kind, and the music drowns out the sound of the engine so I can't tell what gears are being used.

I'm really interested and I really hope it's a nice track to watch and see. If things go well I may attend the race in person next year.

I think sector one will have a lot of overtaking, at least it looks like it will to me. I also can see a lot of battles in sector two. I look forward to seeing the track.

I like it looks intresting we wont know whether it'll be a classic or a throw away. Wish i could drive it looks kinda fun.



... i cant get that song out of my head now ... but looks intresting



Wondering if teams will go high med or low downforce caus yeesh thats a long straight but look at the "noodles".

trying this track on rfactor (its not really accurate, no camber nothing... just flat road), this kind of layout seems to be very tricky if I don't want to compromise top speed. Theres actually quite a lot of places where I can see overtaking occuring, mostly in the first sector however. Since its so flat I assume that they're trying to build something like melbourne, except that it goes into a city, turns 6 7 8 9 seem to show that.

Overtaking will definately come from the fact that there is both high downforce and low downforce sections, a bit like what happened with hockenheim in the past.

Only thing which seems really bad is the pitlane... I think tilke deliberately lengthened the pitlane in order to throw it up a bit, only saving grace is the fact that the track is so long...


EDIT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX_L4qKSvPc

even without a proper wheel, I can floor it through 6789...

Turn 1 looks just wrong. Pitlane exit around the run off, making it extra long. The left kink before the turn will reduce chances to overtake there. Also the run off looks wrong.

The pit exit is where it is so that cars exiting the pitlane will possibly be able to out drag cars coming out of turn 1 down the huge straight.

I don't really see why having the world longest straight is something to boast about.
The cameras are always set up at either end of it so you never see what is going on down the middle of the straight anyway. Just cut it in half and add in some decent corners instead.

there's too many corners as it is, the 2/3 sectors just look ridiculous :L all the corners are so similar, keep the straight!


& thanks guys for the video's! i think it's interesting that we'll be able to play it on the F1 2010 game before we see it in real life

I get the distinct impression that most of the paddock views this event (i.e. the Korean GP) as little more than a nuisance.

The point of a long straight is to create passing opportunities and to give the teams a bit of a challenge when setting their car up(straight line speed vs cornerning).

I hope you were just joking....

Yea, if this version is even somewhat accurate, I think it dispels the myth that this is going to be nothing but slow corners and long straights. Looks pretty damn quick to me.

I'm kind of excited about it now.

Yes, its not another 'Spa', but I think people need to get their expectations in check for this day and age.

But Valencia was meant to be "the most exciting race of the year, filled with Safety Car periods" according to the pre-race preview for Autosport in 2008. Without rain this won't be a classic. The only decent 'new' circuit to join the calendar recently was Fuji.

This is not Valencia.

My point is that all new circuits are viewed with anticipation, but end up being bad races - Singapore in 2008 wasn't that great, Abu Dhabi last year.

I thought Abu Dhabi was pretty good. Its put up some immense racing for the GP2 series, as well.

Just cuz a track doesn't produce an 'instant classic' in its first or second race doesn't mean its a bad track.

I personally liked Abu Dhabi, had it been the last race of the season, im sure people's views would of changed