Surely you've seen this one. I can watch this one over and over again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbKbg-Bg8mk

same here, it's a great video, I like James' reaction to his time.

And that would be the Japan GP weekend also, so we would expect Bruno and the family will attend the opening show ?

Why? It's not DRIVEN. It's a documentary, not a live-action film.

Speaking of Driven, if my eyes were watching correctly Five's adverts in the UK for films suggest said disaster is soon to be unleashed on the British public.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1424432/

I've commented for about the past decade or so that Jose Zuniga would be a good match:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0959242/

(I admit, the older he gets though the less of a good match he may be...)

http://senna-movie.jp/

What about Leonardo?: http://www.google.fi/imgres?imgurl=http://...%26tbs%3Disch:1

I thought the clip of Senna walking out of the drivers briefing was over the pole position but it was related to the chicane. He had been disqualified the previous year for cutting it, but the drivers here all agreed that the suggestion they should take the chicane, even if they miss it, by turning around.. was rediculous and dangerous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49qF32Pazwc

Yeah thanks, I was made aware of it recently in another thread, before it had somehow slipped off my radar for some years.

The trailer looks really good, focussing on the racing just as I had hoped!

Bag him at his website Coral!

My fear is that it will gloss over his many faults and paint 'someone else' in a villanous role. I will, of course, watch it and enjoy the racing in it though. And may even be surprised positively about the content.

It certainly will portray Senna as a saint, as everyone did since his death.

According to JA, it's "Senna in his own words", mainly interview segments over documentary footage. Sounds a bit dull to me, heh. It'll appeal to the hardcore fans but I don't see it garnering mainstream success. Without a third-person narrative, a marketable star or a measure of fabricated conflict, there's not much to differentiate it from the average TV doccies that appear every year around the anniversary of his death.

Don't worry, I already have. Actually I am really looking forward to this film, and not because of any supposed "human interest" story. I don't expect it will come to Scotland, but I'll go anywhere to see it.

No, that's not true. That's just your perception. Top Gear's feature certainly didn't do that highlighting his sometimes aggressive on-track nature.

Saint or no-saint behind the wheel of a racing car he was magic!

HHmm.. So your saying it may not be a Box-Office smash?? duuhh... Not sure it's pitched at the Avatar viewing market somehow. it's quite squarely aimed at the motorsport fan. I for one will be going to see it.

Well, I was musing on JA's prediction:



I can't see that happening.

I will be watching it too... But regarding the 'Mainstream' element, whilst it won't be a Blockbuster smash film, Ayrton Senna was a driver that transcended being just a motorsport hero... everyone I know has heard of, and knows how good Ayrton Senna was (ok mainly because I go on about it so much), and of course the tragic circumstances of his death. Putting that kind of hero onto the big screen may attract a lot more than just a typical 'motorsport fan'.

In the same way that lots of people would be interested in seeing a film about Pele, and those who did go and see the Will Smith 'Ali' film, a sporting hero of that magnitude fails to be just a specialist choice...

I'm expecting a film as good as Top Gear's piece, but stretched into a feature-length film... That Top Gear film made me well up at the end.

Or not.

A 17 year old movie that still hasn't collected five votes... And it seems to be structured much like the Senna film - archive footage and a documentary on the man himself.

The Ali movie succeeded because they gave it the full Hollywood treatment with a very bankable star. I think a Senna movie with an Antonio Banderas type of star could enjoy moderate mainstream success. But then hardcore fans would hate it because Banderas would flip the car into a triple somersault at the final corner before getting out and heroically pushing the wreckage over the finish line for the championship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGcO6lXb2Zo...feature=related

nice 86 interview with Senna... (see also other parts)

nice to see kart champion Barichello asking questions to Senna

Relax, it's not the apocalypse. Just the first sign that the apocalyse is imminent.

I dearly hope it's exactly like you say. I've long ago noticed that mainstream movies only work if one does not know much about the subject.

They have to work that way because the viewing public doesn't know much about the subject. So if you pitch something at the technical level of hardcore supporters/practitioners of the activity, it'll go way over the heads of Joe Sixpack.

He is a saint, in fact.

Wait and see. Don´t judge it before you have seen it.

Senna´s calm, gentle and at the same time hypnotic way of speaking can have a strong effect on the listener, more so than any third person voice which would be like in any other documentary. Especially, if the text segments are put together in a sensible way.

Kudos to Universal Pictures, this is a much more sound project than the movie with Antonio Banderas ever could have been. Any actor would have had difficulties representing Ayrton in the proper fashion.

I never found Senna's voice very hypnotic. I'd rather Sean Connery voiced it. "When Shenna firsht came to Shilvershtone, there were unpreshedented shenes of ekshitement..."

That's for sure, I'd say.

Obviously. And on many topics I'm more than ready to be that Joe Sixpack, only looking for cheap entertainment.

But IF in this case they have gone a different, more specialist route, wouldn't it be nice for us? Only believe it when I've see it, though.

It's rare that F1/open wheel racing fans get to see a movie that is associated not only their sport but also with one of the greatest drivers in that sport.

I can't wait for this movie to come out. I just hope it will be shown in the Metro Vancouver area.

I think it´s the first time ever. No other driver had a feature-length movie in his name.

We had "Grand Prix", "Le Mans", then this Italian production from 1979/1980 which came out only in Italian, as far as I am aware of ("Pole Position" was the title I believe) and finally this unspeakable Silvester Stallone production "Driven", but I do not recall any movie focusing on one driver only.

Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby???

Ahhhh, the D word. I think that any reference to that film should be banned.

After listening to this interview, I'm quite curious of how this is actually being done.

http://pankfilm.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/d...james-gay-rees/


Ok this might sound a bit daft (but I am Mandzipop so I can sound daft )

Something simple. Incident, Senna gets out of the car, storms through the garage and slams the door shut. They don't have an actual continuity footage (and it might not have even have happened), so we see the actual footage of him getting out of the car. Then we see him walking through the garage, then we see a shot of the other side of the door where it is slammed shut. In realtime, these incidents of opening the door and slamming it shut happened 6 months apart, but they have put it together in a way it looks like a normal movie scene. Just think of how a movie is actually shot. It is not in sequence.

Also looking at the quality of the pictures of the film, I'm getting the impression they are doing something along the lines of Cinema Paradiso. The picture quality starts off fairly poor, and gets more and more up-to-date to make it apparent of the timescales. If they were using I suppose the word is scenes, out of context in a true chronological order, then they would have the facility to enhance the picture quality.

That is how I would do it. It doesn't mean everything is factually correct. But when you make a film, you have a script and the actors say the lines. In this particular film, you want the same effect but you cant ask the actors to say those lines, so you have to find them saying the lines to make a seemless flowing film.

Listening to what the producer says, what James Allen says and what I have seen as the trailer, that to me looks like what they are trying to achieve. That way they could use footage to have a bigger impact. They may have sufficient footage to create scenes that dont actually exist, or never actually happened. But if the footage is there, they could technically create them.

It should be added as a house rule; thou shall not mention the movie D......N in any of the forums. Breaching of this rule will be punished by a total IP ban.


Im not so sure if a movie around Senna would be that interesting to watch. If we have to judge on Gerhard Bergers admition that Senna dedicated his whole life around racing, I think a focus on James Hunt, Keke Rosberg or Gilles Villeneuve would be more exciting.

Oh my God, I did not think mentioning this unspeakable movie would put me that much in trouble!

Well you are forgiven, as you didnt know ;)



It realy is that bad. An insult to racing fans.

Way before that there was Stroker Ace.

I saw one third of it, then I aborted.

So on to some hopefully great F1 movie then.

You are right, a movie on James Hunt, life and races as well as on Gilles Villeneuve (including snowboard racing) would be very desirable.

Speaking about Gerhard Berger - very sad that there are no film documents on the practical jokes they played on each other - that would give yet another dimension to the movie.
I remember once when there was a race at the A-1 Ring, and Berger was flying together with Senna in the helicopter to stay at the Wörthersee in Carinthia, he threw Senna´s briefcase out of the helicopter, complete with Senna´s credit cards and passport!!!
Luckily an honest Carinthian farmer found the briefcase in his field and managed to bring it to the racetrack that was more than hundred kilometers away.

Some hilarious scenes would top off the movie, neither Berger nor Senna were slouches in that department!

damn.. just got news from the Belgian distribution list that the movie is currently not on the list...
so it will, at this point, not be shown in Belgian movie theatres... they told me it could still change, but at this point it is not on the list...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY2Jr_7Ngyk...eature=youtu.be

Looks good, id like to see this.

Thanks for that, brilliant find.
The shots from his in-board, just before the impact, are mind numbing. It almost feels that that is as close to him as anyone can get.
Definitely a film to see.

I thought it would be more than this.
To me, it just looks like a collection of the various bits of Senna documentary video that I've already seen in all the other Senna documentaries.

I tend to agree....

Will still watch it though. From a motorsport fans perspective, it will still appeal. Even after having seen it all before.

James Allen suggests that it won't be out in the UK until "the New Year," which is a bit of a rubbish time to release it me thinks.

There was talk once of an Ayrton drama movie, what happened to that?

This doc will be good, indeed great, but as others have alluded it won't have mass appeal and I guess the marketing / distribution will illustrate that.

Our best bet is to get on dvd next year I reckon. Wait till the summer, and get it for a fiver.

The talk and rumours may have come from this production I'd imagine.

I laugh at the bit where the two guys just jump into their Indycars, with no belts... just start up the cars (yeah cause they all just have ignition keys!! and cupholders!!) and start zooming through the city...

Absolutely awful, you can tell why Bernie drove them away from doing it on F1...

That was plan A... back in 2001 ...

Antonio Banderas was then mentioned as the role for Senna...

Did'nt realise, i thought it was movie based on his life. Thank god its not!!!!