http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/05/alon...out-schumacher/

Schumacher, who helped building up this team again ... While ... You, Alonso ... Didnt do sh!t yet for Ferrari? Are seriously saying Ferrari is better of without Schumacher? You, who didnt win a single WCC / WDC yet with them, still need to start the 5th race for Ferrari. Alonso, you dont have the guts, balls, intelligence nor charism to ever be such as great of a asset to Ferrari what Schumacher was.

Alonso? You will dream about the day you have as much as respect at Ferrari as Schumacher deserved. that will never happen because Schumacher deserved his respect on track not off track. Will talk to you Alonso when you win your 4/5/6th WDC with Ferrari ...

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Alonso was the captain and scored two goals, drivers team won the match. Felipe one goal.

Alonso hits back: Not under pressure

Saturday 15th May 2010


Fernando Alonso rounded on his critics after being accused of making too many mistakes since moving to Ferrari this season.

Following his victory in the season opener in Bahrain Alonso was then involved in a first-corner collision with Michael Schumacher in the subsequent grand prix in Australia.

Rain during qualifying played havoc in Malaysia, with Alonso among a host of big names who started at the back of the grid after second guessing the weather and getting it wrong.

In China, the 28-year-old jumped the start and served a drive-through penalty before finally proving his worth again last Sunday in front of his home crowd in Spain by finishing second.

But on Saturday Alonso watched qualifying from the garage after putting his car in a barrier in final practice, with the damage meaning there was not enough time for his team to repair his car in time.

Alonso will now start from the pit lane, which means any chance of a points finish is virtually non-existent, and he is almost certain to relinquish second place in the Drivers' standings.

But as to his errors, Alonso snapped: "Do I think I've made too many mistakes this year?

"In Barcelona, where I was maybe under the most pressure, I did my best qualifying lap and had my best race.

"If, after 10 years in Formula One I still have to prove I do not feel pressure, then it's not worth talking about any more."

Alonso at least held his hands up to his Saturday shunt that saw him hit the barrier at Massenet heading into Casino Square which resulted in the loss of his right-front wheel.

But the resultant damage came as a major surprise.

"It was my mistake, but it was also very unlucky," he added.

"With an impact at 90 (kmh), you don't normally write off a chassis.

"Unfortunately the angle of impact with the barrier was such that the damage could not be repaired, and the rules don't let you use the spare chassis."

In starting from the pit lane, Alonso concedes he is now in "the worst possible place," but is refusing to give up hope.

He added: "We will do our best to bring home some points that can be useful for the classification."

I think nobody has more pressure than FA has these days. After the glorious championships in 05/06, the 07 season with McLaren had all his detractors saying that he really wasn't that great after all if he could be beaten by a rookie. Then 2 lean years followed back at Renault, complete with scandals and all, adding fuel to the fire that the detractors had kept burning.
So the move to Ferrari is at once a blessing and a curse. A blessing because he is once again in a team with winning potential. A curse because more than ever before, the expectations are impossibly high. nothing less than the championship will do. He is with Ferrari right? The most succesful team in history? no more excuses, he can not fail. Forget the fact that Ferrari's performance has been mostly downhill since Schumacher left (Raikkonen's '07 championship notwithstanding).

I find it understandable that he makes more mistakes now than before. I don't think many F1-drivers have ever experienced similar pressure.

Detractors' rebuttals up next.

I think nobody has more pressure than FA has these days. After the glorious championships in 05/06, the 07 season with McLaren had all his detractors saying that he really wasn't that great after all if he could be beaten by a rookie. Then 2 lean years followed back at Renault, complete with scandals and all, adding fuel to the fire that the detractors had kept burning.
So the move to Ferrari is at once a blessing and a curse. A blessing because he is once again in a team with winning potential. A curse because more than ever before, the expectations are impossibly high. nothing less than the championship will do. He is with Ferrari right? The most succesful team in history? no more excuses, he can not fail. Forget the fact that Ferrari's performance has been mostly downhill since Schumacher left (Raikkonen's '07 championship notwithstanding).

I find it understandable that he makes more mistakes now than before. I don't think many F1-drivers have ever experienced similar pressure.

Detractors' rebuttals up next.

I think nobody has more pressure than FA has these days.

Now, the fresh start on the drivers' front is here and I can only hope that Alonso has so much strength, willpower and ambition, that he is "Schumacheresque enough" to help rejuvenate and rebuild the team. Raikkonen just added to the damage done since 2006. Can Alonso turn the tide and fix it? I hope so.

Well, he should be given as much time as Schumi back then. It took him what, four or five years to build that team into the winning machine it became in 2000? but I don't think Alonso has that long. Nobody will give him four or five years. If he is not champion this year, it has to be next year or people will start to write him off.

Yes, he doesn't have as much time as Schumi had back in 1996 but, truth be said, Ferrari today is not in as bad a shape as it used to be in the first half of the 1990s.
The good thing is that we hopefully have a real team leader again, after Schumacher.

Signing Raikkonen was a huge mistake...Ferrari simply isn't a team that could operate effectively with an autistic driver interested in nothing but driving the car and collecting his cheque. It may be perfect for McLaren but Ferrari is an environment that requires a Surtees, a Lauda or a Schumacher to be successful. Let's hope that we can add "or an Alonso" to that list. While I could agree that this is a shortcoming of the team, it's also the fact of the matter.

I agree, but I also think that Kimi simply didn't perform as well as he was excepted to in the car. He wasn't hired to match Massa.

Yes but it partly came from his lack of interest and technical knowledge (and partly from him being simply overrarted). McLaren could compensate for it, Ferrari not.
But it's not Kimi's fault - Ferrari knew who he is and yet signed him.

And yet this underperforming Raikkonen was the 2007 champion I think he was the fastest guy on the grid, but he lacked the ambition or determination to give direction to an entire team. He just wants to go fast, and that's about the extent of it. That's how it appears to me, anyway.

I just watched the BBC Forum and you could clearly see that Alonso overtook Chandhok under yellow flag when Hulkenberg crashed - did anyone else notice that? the stewards didn't as it looks like...

Yes but it partly came from his lack of interest and technical knowledge (and partly from him being simply overrarted). McLaren could compensate for it, Ferrari not.
But it's not Kimi's fault - Ferrari knew who he is and yet signed him.

How do you know how much technical knowledge Kimi has?

Suffice to say that the 2007 WDC title was never won, it was lost or given away but never won. It's better not to talk about it at all.

Let's not start it again, please.
Many F1 insiders spoke about it (Sauber said "His strengths are definitely not on the technical side", etc...) and it's obvious he is not the kind of a driver willing to spend endless hours analyzing telemetry after a testing session or trying out myriads of components.
His strengths are his natural talents, speed, car control and racing instincts. He is similar to Ickx or Peterson. i.e. unsuitable to this high-tech era.

Let's not start it again, please.
Many F1 insiders spoke about it (Sauber said "His strengths are definitely not on the technical side",

Exactly. I don't know why Kimi fanatics argue this point at all. Its logged in the book. Hard facts. Kimi was brilliant but you sum it up perfectly, he wasn't a worker, he hated PR. He just wanted to drive a fast car at its limits and try and win some races. Then off home. Simples.

Where is Schumacher??

I also strongly dislike his loathing of PR work because all the companies involved with F1 made the huge salary levels that he himself enjoyed possible.

Willy Rampf (Sauber): "During his first F1 season with Sauber he concentrated on what he was doing. Even if we lost some practise because of a technical problem he never panicked. It was clear from the very beginning that he was special...He knew exactly what he needed to make the car quick."

Exunctly. Don't bite the hand that feeds you as they say.

I just watched the BBC Forum and you could clearly see that Alonso overtook Chandhok under yellow flag when Hulkenberg crashed - did anyone else notice that? the stewards didn't as it looks like...

Every driver driving for Ferrari is under immense pressure. Nothing new there.
So if Alonso is feeling the pressure already, just after a couple of races, says alot about Alonso.

he's feeling any pressure at all, looks calmed, relaxed and happier than ever
GREAT RACE FERNANDO!!!

he's feeling any pressure at all, looks calmed, relaxed and happier than ever
GREAT RACE FERNANDO!!!

There's always pressure in f1, everyone feels it, but not everyone can use it, block some of it, and deal with it correctly from within.

Alonso and Schumacher have done alot of fine drives while under pressure, sometimes in some situations pressure actually helps to get down and focus, you have a target.


I don't think Alonso's drive was anything near the level of his sepang drive, he was helped by the safety car to get rid of tyres he needed to use, and for some reason the tyres at Monaco lasted to the end of the race with not much problem and that helped him also, normally in the past that wouldn't of happened.

So I don't get what was impressive about his drive, it was a good recovery, nothing more, but given the safety car and and 1 less tyre pitstop he had to make, it was more a display of factors coming to his aid then actual on track grit. His Sepang drive was much better.

And there's a big question mark regarding Alonso losing out to Schuey at the end. Alonso's weekend was punished by a mistake in Thursday practice, if you make mistakes in practice and or quali, it effects the race outcome, and I think Alonso didn't maximise his ferrari potential this weekend, and probabley should of been more hooked up on race day, challenging for pole. Ferrari lost out this weekend. There have been better recovery drives by him in the past and others.

I'm not too satisfied with his performance so far, yeah he has been really fast, but he should have exploited the problems of Vettel, Hamilton and co. and he should be leading the championship now, even if the Red Bulls are faster.

On the other hand, after making a mistake, his recovery drives are very good, so it could be much worse, but he shouldn't make those mistakes in the first place.

The Monaco Grand Prix was bittersweet for me. Clearly, in terms of the points I picked up, it was not good enough, especially as we were in the right shape to fight for the win. Following on from Barcelona, where we were not fast enough to win, on the Monaco track, where aerodynamics is less important, we were more competitive. When you have a car that is easy to drive, as is the case with the F10 - something which Felipe and I both realised immediately right from the first test in Valencia - it means you quickly feel confident with it. And that is vital on a track like this one.

Then, on Saturday morning, you all know what happened and sixth place on Sunday therefore had a very different flavour to it: this result should make the team proud of all they did in difficult circumstances. It’s never happened to me before, not to be able to take part in qualifying. It can happen that you go out in the early stages, because of a mistake or a technical problem, but to find yourself having to watch the screen right from the start, that was really cruel. But I think this incident brought us even closer together as a group: it’s at times like these that you get the measure of people and the entire team was amazing.

Sunday was very satisfying. We were aware that if we wanted to finish in the points, everything had to be perfect: the car, strategy, overtaking and tyres. And that was indeed the case. The first laps were very hectic, with six overtaking moves and then I had to try and make the most of the strategy, waiting for others to pit. From lap 28, I found myself sixth and, from that point onwards, my main aim was to manage the car and the tyres. We had only finished rebuilding the car a few hours earlier and to finish such a tough race without the slightest problem shows just how great the lads are. Then at the end came the incident with Michael: the pit wall had told me that, as the race was still under the Safety Car on the last lap, overtaking was not allowed and so I was calm and that was later confirmed by the Stewards, who put things right.

Now, we have to roll our sleeves up to push even more on the development of the car. We still have to make up some ground in terms of performance and as we are in the thick of the fight, we don’t want to leave anything to chance as we try and reach our goals.