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QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Mar 22 2010, 23:32) *
Epsilon have a history of abandoning projects when they go badly. The Epsilon Euskadi ee1 was one of the best-looking sports prototypes ever made, but it was abysmally slow. Rather than develop the car further, Epsilon abandoned it and decided to concentrate in Formula 1 instead.



I know, read the blog article and you'll find an explanation. It was a project made by and for students and it didn't go on because of lack of sponsors. It was never a long term project. I like the idea of building, first of all, solid foundations (facilities, mechanics & engineers) and then building a racing team. Maybe they won't build the fastest car ever but I'm sure they will be in time and, if the investors are patient, it's the most serious option for a long term Spanish F1 team.
F1vsGP
QUOTE (screamingV16 @ Mar 21 2010, 12:07) *
Just had a look at the myf1dream website to give myself a laugh again, it is now called mygpdream, presumably because Bernie's lawyers have been in touch lol.gif . I assume there was no 1000 euro fee last year because the mygpdream guy is bitching about it on his twitter feed ...

"€1,000 entry fee, never thought I would say this but bring back mad max when entry process was free and open to all !!!!"

So it sounds like the entry fee is a good idea and stops jokers like mygpdream getting involved. Seriously, if he cant get 1000 euros together for the entry fee he's not going to get a team togther whatever his fantasies drunk.gif . He also tweeted...

"Is there really any point in going through the FIA F1 entry process when the russian mafia have bought out USF1, sorry fans !!"

I assume he means the Serbian Stefan GP, who haven't bought out USF1 and don't actually seem that welcomed by the Bernie or FIA. Sounds like he's looking for excuses to not apply, not that it appears anyone visiting his site or twitter actually care!


Hi folks,

Ashley from mygpdream here, and I can fully understand a lot of the sentiments towards me on this and many other threads, I have put up with it for three whole years now.

I did indeed put in my 30 page application into the FIA before the fee was announced and I did get an email from the FIA asking for the fee with the entry form, jury still out at the moment though, specially after the below has happened to me.

Setting aside the politics a major issue I have is with both twitter and another organisation who have seemed it fit to delete the first tweet I placed in the above quote.

I wouldn't be too surprised if you see this thread miraculously dissapearing in the not to distant future.

I had these shock tactics played on me a while ago and I think it really isn't right in a time when the whole sport is supposed to be a lot more transparent to the general public.

I am absolutely seething that this has happened to me again in a time of free speech.

Many Thanks

Ashley

ps. Looking forward to racing ARSE F1 Team, love it smile.gif

Captain Tightpants
Ashley, I think you have bigger problems than Twitter posts being erased (and I'm ignoring for the moment the fact that you're accusing Stefan GP of being a front for the Russian mafia, which is slander and for which you could be prosecuted). Your concept is singularly unappealling. How exactly do you expect to raise forty million dollars from fan donations alone? And if you somehow manage to do it, how are you going to manage a team when every single donor would be a stakeholder and therefore able to influence the way the team was run? And how do you expect to compete against entry bids from established racing teams like Epsilon Euskadi?

I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure myf1dream was the first proposal to be rejected last season. I know that if I were the one reading it, I probably would have turned it down as soon as I saw "funded by fan donations" in the proposal. If there is an entry fee this season, it's probably so that the FIA can weed out entrants that they do not consider to be erious efforts. After all, if you can't raise a thousand Euros in capital, how can you expect to raised forty million?
MegaManson
QUOTE (F1vsGP @ Mar 26 2010, 20:58) *
Hi folks,

Ashley from mygpdream here, and I can fully understand a lot of the sentiments towards me on this and many other threads, I have put up with it for three whole years now.

I did indeed put in my 30 page application into the FIA before the fee was announced and I did get an email from the FIA asking for the fee with the entry form, jury still out at the moment though, specially after the below has happened to me.

Setting aside the politics a major issue I have is with both twitter and another organisation who have seemed it fit to delete the first tweet I placed in the above quote.

I wouldn't be too surprised if you see this thread miraculously dissapearing in the not to distant future.

I had these shock tactics played on me a while ago and I think it really isn't right in a time when the whole sport is supposed to be a lot more transparent to the general public.

I am absolutely seething that this has happened to me again in a time of free speech.

Many Thanks

Ashley

ps. Looking forward to racing ARSE F1 Team, love it smile.gif


Ashley

Just give it up please

You have as much chance of getting the 13th grid slot as Frank Williams has of leaping out of his wheelchair and beating Usain Bolt in a 100m sprint (no disrespect meant for Sir Frank)

Just forget the whole idea, if you have €1000 Euros to spare that you want to burn give it to your local hospital or bird sanctuary or something as opposed to something so ill conceived and ridiculous as this
highdownforce
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DURANGO CANDIDATE FOR 2011 FORMULA 1 ENTRY [link]
04.07.10 - Durango has been officially acknowledged by the FIA as candidate for the valutation process for the selection of a new Formula 1 team for the 2011 World Championship. This entry is the result of the marketing job, done during the last months , by the real Durango “engine” Ivone Pinton who declared: “After all the wrong things happened last season we tried our best to look for new partners in our racing activity. It did not get too long to understand that the interest could be arose just about Formula 1 and nothing else. So we pushed towards this direction and I can say that, to enter F1, we can now enjoy the backing of two very big international groups. So even keeping the feet on the ground as we say in Italy, because up till now this is just a serious attempt, I like to consider that after so many years spent to push the young drivers to became future champions now the time has come to strongly push towards the motorsport pinnacle Durango as a team”.

I would like to read about their candidature, funding, technical partners, suppliers et cetera.

Btw, are there any news from Epsilon Euskadi?
rmac923
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Apr 7 2010, 15:48) *
I would like to read about their candidature, funding, technical partners, suppliers et cetera.

Btw, are there any news from Epsilon Euskadi?


I don't have a link (sorry!) but they are attempting to enter the 2011 Season.
highdownforce
QUOTE (rmac923 @ Apr 7 2010, 16:49) *
I don't have a link (sorry!) but they are attempting to enter the 2011 Season.

Yeah, that was what we've got, but I was expecting more info about it by this time.
Fastcake
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Apr 7 2010, 20:52) *
Yeah, that was what we've got, but I was expecting more info about it by this time.

I'll imagine we will get more info once the actual selection process starts.
Jedi_F1
So 4 have probably applied:

Stefan GP, Lola, Epsilon Euskadi & Durango.

Still have doubts about Prodrive as they are very busy to put their WRC program ready for 2011.
highdownforce
AFAIK, the Basque team hasn't applied yet, they've announced the intention to do it.
Dudley
Durango? Seriously?

You stink up GP2 for years then pull out because you can't even fund THAT but you have multi millions for F1?
rmac923
QUOTE (Jedi_F1 @ Apr 7 2010, 16:17) *
So 4 have probably applied:

Stefan GP, Lola, Epsilon Euskadi & Durango.

Still have doubts about Prodrive as they are very busy to put their WRC program ready for 2011.


Lola have not applied: (or it isn't public knowledge, yet).

Without Toyata's support, Sefan GP have nothing. They won't make a bid, UNLESS, they buy the scraps of USF1. Though that would mean buying their debts, which could take awhile to sort out.

I highly doubt we'll see Prodrive after Richards slammed F1 months ago.

Obviously USF1 is dead. I doubt will see another attempt at an American team unless Panoz makes an attempt. (possible, but unlikely)

Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Dudley @ Apr 8 2010, 07:44) *
Durango? Seriously?

You stink up GP2 for years then pull out because you can't even fund THAT but you have multi millions for F1?

Did you read the article? They said they've found new investors, but that those investors are only interested in working in Formula 1.
BullHead
It does not sound convincing though, admittedly. They'll be one of many applicants no doubt over the year.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (BullHead @ Apr 8 2010, 08:44) *
It does not sound convincing though, admittedly. They'll be one of many applicants no doubt over the year.

They don't have to convince us - just the FIA. And they've got more credibility than most of the aspiring 2010 entrants (read: myf1dream, Team Superfund) because they're a racing team.
arknor
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Apr 7 2010, 23:32) *
Did you read the article? They said they've found new investors, but that those investors are only interested in working in Formula 1.

they would probably be another usf1 lol
Fastcake
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Apr 7 2010, 23:32) *
Did you read the article? They said they've found new investors, but that those investors are only interested in working in Formula 1.

Investors, whoever they are, aren't enough to get anywhere in F1. If you can't run a half decent team in GP2, what chance do they have actually when they actually have to build a car?
rmac923
QUOTE (Fastcake @ Apr 8 2010, 12:59) *
Investors, whoever they are, aren't enough to get anywhere in F1. If you can't run a half decent team in GP2, what chance do they have actually when they actually have to build a car?


Case in point: Campos Grand Prix

Successful in GP2, but still couldn't put together enough funds to race (EDIT: In F1), and the team was sold.

Durango doesn't have any chance.

But at least they're more credible than USF1!!! clap.gif
Les
QUOTE (Dudley @ Apr 7 2010, 22:44) *
Durango? Seriously?

You stink up GP2 for years then pull out because you can't even fund THAT but you have multi millions for F1?


Sounds like a winner. Or something. Surely this stands no chance or do they have mates at the FIA?
sir jackie walker
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Mar 27 2010, 02:13) *
Ashley, I think you have bigger problems than Twitter posts being erased (and I'm ignoring for the moment the fact that you're accusing Stefan GP of being a front for the Russian mafia, which is slander and for which you could be prosecuted). Your concept is singularly unappealling. How exactly do you expect to raise forty million dollars from fan donations alone? And if you somehow manage to do it, how are you going to manage a team when every single donor would be a stakeholder and therefore able to influence the way the team was run? And how do you expect to compete against entry bids from established racing teams like Epsilon Euskadi?

Dunno, maybe they'll ask advice from one of the many PLCs in existence? rolleyes.gif

As for Durango bid, I certainly don't have much trust in them. Adrián Campos failed to get sufficient funding, and he at least had a fairly successful racing pedigree and a major chassis-maker behind him. Durango, on the contrary, have never reached better than 7th in Internationl F3000 or GP2, and have produced only one car to date - a Le Mans prototype that raced in 2003. Epsilon Euskadi at least has a recent sportscar fail...
Disgrace
Durango! Get real! lol.gif
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Fastcake @ Apr 9 2010, 02:59) *
Investors, whoever they are, aren't enough to get anywhere in F1.

You'll get a hell of a lot further with investors than you will without them.
GT Racing Online Magazine
QUOTE (Stuko @ Mar 22 2010, 16:03) *
Some photos and some Villadelprat history:
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/...on-aims-for-f1/


Woah! Impressive facilities - I had no idea. Is Durand still at the team?
Fastcake
QUOTE
You'll get a hell of a lot further with investors than you will without them.

Only if you know how to use this money.

QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Apr 9 2010, 17:40) *

Dodgy accounts? Cheating? Thrown out of races? Unknown sources of money?

If they applied last year they would of got in smile.gif
gio66
QUOTE (Dudley @ Apr 7 2010, 23:44) *
Durango? Seriously?

You stink up GP2 for years then pull out because you can't even fund THAT but you have multi millions for F1?


up.gif

If Durango will be in F1 I'll build a space rocket.

IMHO it seems obvious that this is a very clumsy attempt by Pinton to have a bit of advertising after the "mysterious" fail of last September.

Their request will rightly rejected and then follow the whining like "they didn't gave us the opportunity because we are not politically recommended" and other indecency to justify the non-acceptance (N-Technology docet).

I wonder, they really believe they can dupe someone?
BullHead
QUOTE (gio66 @ Apr 9 2010, 20:03) *
I wonder, they really believe they can dupe someone?


USF1 did
brabham bt50
Deadline for registration is nearby.

The precise terms of this selection process, together with the applicable selection criteria, deadlines, legal requirements and other conditions, will be communicated to candidates who have registered a formal expression of interest with the FIA’s Secretariat before 5pm CET Thursday 15th April 2010, together with an administration fee of €1,000.

So far only two teams ( Epsilon Euskadi and Durango ) as we know off, have registered, who will follow ( to be confirmed ) before Friday April 16th 2010 ?
highdownforce
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Apr 12 2010, 08:50) *
[...]who will follow ( to be confirmed ) before Friday April 16th 2010 ?

If you dare to believe in this...
rmac923
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Apr 12 2010, 07:50) *
Deadline for registration is nearby.

The precise terms of this selection process, together with the applicable selection criteria, deadlines, legal requirements and other conditions, will be communicated to candidates who have registered a formal expression of interest with the FIA’s Secretariat before 5pm CET Thursday 15th April 2010, together with an administration fee of €1,000.

So far only two teams ( Epsilon Euskadi and Durango ) as we know off, have registered, who will follow ( to be confirmed ) before Friday April 16th 2010 ?


I think there are more names, but after the USF1 fiasco, they've decided to keep their mouth shut until the selection process deadline.

That said, I think Lola and March will bid again.

I also think regardless of who's selected, someone's gonna buyout Sauber.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (BullHead @ Apr 10 2010, 05:12) *
USF1 did

I don't think they actually intended to dupe anyone. USF1's problem wasn't that they were misleading, it's that they were idiots.

QUOTE (rmac923 @ Apr 13 2010, 00:26) *
I think there are more names, but after the USF1 fiasco, they've decided to keep their mouth shut until the selection process deadline.

That's what Manor did. When teams like Prodrive were talking up their Formula 1 plans, Manor kept quiet. followed the selection process pretty carefully, and all I ever found out about the project was an obscure one-line reference to a team involving Nick Wirth that only a handful of sources bothered to print. I think the fact that Manor kept quiet is also what caused people to rebel against the grid when they were anounced, lagely because they were so sure Prodrive would get it.
Fastcake
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Apr 12 2010, 23:31) *
I don't think they actually intended to dupe anyone. USF1's problem wasn't that they were misleading, it's that they were idiots.

Ha, thats sure true.

I would imagine prodrive and lola would be bidding again, hopefully it will be between them and epilison, as the only real professional teams here. USF1 and stefen said they would apply again, doubt the FIA would give either a place due to last years fiasco. Apart from that there probably a few unknowns, interesting if they get revealed any time soon.
Captain Tightpants
Prodrive has said that Formula 1 is "not relevant", and they're said to be working on a return to the WRC since their bid to buy Renault last year failed.
Captain Tightpants
Prodrive won't apply for 2011.
Fastcake
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Apr 15 2010, 10:23) *

Shame, the FIA will have to pick a stronger team this year, I would of thought prodrive would be chosen.
ClubmanGT
QUOTE (Fastcake @ Apr 15 2010, 22:47) *
Shame, the FIA will have to pick a stronger team this year, I would of thought prodrive would be chosen.


Prodrive had their chance.
Fastcake
QUOTE (ClubmanGT @ Apr 15 2010, 11:59) *
Prodrive had their chance.

Thats true I suppose, maybe they will try sometime in the future.

Isn't the deadline today? Prehaps we'll get some news on who is interested.
gio66
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Apr 15 2010, 11:23) *


What's new? lol.gif
4ren
Wasn't supposed that today is the deadline for aplying?
rmac923
QUOTE (4ren @ Apr 15 2010, 11:53) *
Wasn't supposed that today is the deadline for aplying?


Tomorrow IRCC.

So far only 2 teams confirmed.

But as I said, certainly there are a few teams who are pulling a Manor GP and keeping their mouths shut.

EDIT: Guess it is today. No Lola or Prodrive... damn.
highdownforce
Lola also out...
What are the chances of no one, despite EE and Durango, appliying?
Fastcake
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82890

Lola out. Well that's me stumped, guess I'll be backing Epilison now. Oh and the article also says the deadline's now expired today.

Edit: Dam highdownforce, you're quick.
highdownforce
QUOTE (Fastcake @ Apr 15 2010, 13:30) *
Edit: Dam highdownforce, you're quick.

And I didn't notice that these news were fresh until you've said so lol.gif
Eli
QUOTE (Fastcake @ Apr 15 2010, 17:30) *
Oh and the article also says the deadline's now expired today.


From the original statement:

QUOTE
The precise terms of this selection process, together with the applicable selection criteria, deadlines, legal requirements and other conditions, will be communicated to candidates who have registered a formal expression of interest with the FIA’s Secretariat before 5pm CET Thursday 15th April 2010, together with an administration fee of €1,000.

remdev
Apparently, N Technology won't apply for 2011.

http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=htt...l=&ie=UTF-8
BullHead
Is anyone actually applying? At this rate USF1 might have a look in again...
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (BullHead @ Apr 16 2010, 10:15) *
Is anyone actually applying? At this rate USF1 might have a look in again...

Epsilon Euskadi and Durango are the only ones we know of for sure. However, I suspect that not a few entrants are going to do a Manor and keep their mouths shut - teams like Prodrive and Lola were quite confident of getting an entry last year and subsequently got egg on their faces when they didn't.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Apr 15 2010, 20:28) *
Epsilon Euskadi and Durango are the only ones we know of for sure. However, I suspect that not a few entrants are going to do a Manor and keep their mouths shut - teams like Prodrive and Lola were quite confident of getting an entry last year and subsequently got egg on their faces when they didn't.


Manor kept their mouth shut because through Donnelly they had juicy connections to the FIA... now, who could be in a similar position today?
Dispenser89
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Apr 16 2010, 01:38) *
Manor kept their mouth shut because through Donnelly they had juicy connections to the FIA... now, who could be in a similar position today?

ART?
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Apr 16 2010, 10:38) *
Manor kept their mouth shut because through Donnelly they had juicy connections to the FIA... now, who could be in a similar position today?

What was Donnelly's connection to the team? As far as I know, it was his wife's company that brokered the Virgin deal, and that didn't take place until well after the announcement of Manor as an entrant for 2010.
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