Oh look - no TAG .

It's a safety issue as well. As David Hobbs said during a race a while ago, get a watch like that snagged on something in a crash or spin and it could take the back of your hand off. I'm pretty sure they don't wear them in the car, but if they do, it's very foolish.

New Renault F1 watch collection from T W Steel:

Thanks!! that is it.... watch the video at 13 seconds.... it shows a dial of a Tag Heuer watch,,, with written: MP4-12C,

So TAG must be launching tomorrow a Grand Carrera MP4-12C

too true

I wear a lowly Casio G-Shock MTG-900. Got it at Wal-Mart for $100. Sorry, but I ain't paying The Big Bucks for a watch...

No they'll be here

Oops...already there http://www.vegaspawn.com/products.php?category=26

Got to love the power of advertising!

The following is from a watch buff site.

"Tag makes nice designs -- I give them that. However, what most people do not realize is that Tag is solely a marketing and design brand. They have no factory and thus very few watchmakers. All production and repair work is subcontracted to other companies and, for the most part, the lowest bidder. For instance, Cortech produces the cases, Kohli the dials, and Morellato the bracelets. ETA and Valjoux provides the movements and the movement modifications (as they do for many brands), but rumor has it (I have not found objective sources to confirm this) that there is also production subcontracted to Malaysia and the East to save costs. The watches are assembled by one of the many known Swiss ateliers whose specialty is the assembly of component watch parts. The watches are then sent to Tag Heuer for final testing.

The testing facility is a basic wearhouse with about 9 "quality control" tests, from vats used to simulate water resistance, to a drop thingy for shock testing. TZ used to have a video of the tests performed on the Tags in this warehouse, and for a $1000-$3000 watch, one would expect more.

Once the completed product is ready for sale we then experience why they are so costly -- advertising. Tag -- as many other companies do -- spend substantial amounts on marketing and advertising. They goal, as indicated in a recent issue of Watchtime, is to create a marketing program to compete with the likes of Omega, Rolex, Breitling. To further its marketing plans, they've rehired Jack Heuer to help Tag link their own history to that of Edward Heuer and create a sense of history -- even though the Technics Avante Garde group bought Heuer in 1984 (I believe that is the year).

In short, Tag Heuer is a design/marketing brand with no production facility who subcontracts out production and repair."

That's interesting to read.

Either way....TAG Heuer make some fine timepieces. Always been a fan.

actully my phone is a nokia 5800, its the bottom end of the full feature smartphone. all it really lacks is a shiny interface and speed :x

a watch has become a piece of jewlery which tells the time now, tis a shame really...

I use my work watch (Guess Steel) at work to time taxi meters and such, I could use my phone, but it wouldn't be any simpler.
I use my good watch (Seiko), to time all sorts of things
Watches are cool

Damned if I'd ever spend thousands on a watch though, even if I was filthy rich.

Hahaha this thread made me first think of people with 'foot fetish's' haha ive never really heard anyone interested in F1 watches before? But hey each to their own, i like lids, some like watches I like the Tag's myself, simply because they sponsor mclaren and they used to do the official timing for F1 so when I was younger i just figured they're the 'best' and i still think that

Nice capture TT. I particularly like the one on the far left - chronographs on a TW Steel just look too busy as far as I'm concerned. Steels should be plain and simple. Oh, and I also love the colour co-ordination. Yellow and black works great.

I clearly remember Webber having his on when he had his huge shunt in Brazil 2003.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWVGOO1sfTg

Thats really surprising, but there it is, on his arm.

Woulda thought its a no no on safety grounds.

That looks like George Costanza's hand there........

"As the driver replaces his steering wheel and steps out of his cockpit in parc ferme after two hours of intense concentration and having been subjected to grueling g-forces, noise and nearly always high temperatures, he waves to his team and supporters before being ushered away into the paddock building as he makes his way towards the podium. It used to be that the next we saw of them was when they appeared as they walked onto the three-step platform above the pit lane and waved again to the crowd below. Meanwhile the TV cameras zoomed in so the global audience could see the expressions of assured confidence, of delight/amazement from just being there, or of frustration of those critical seconds lost with a sticking wheel-nut during the pitstops or an overshoot (or even, dare I say it, team politics) which cost the driver the chance of standing on a higher step than the one he is on.



In recent times however, we get a more ‘fly on the wall’ glimpse behind what goes on once the drivers have disappeared through the doorway near where the cars come to rest. The cameraman now follows them into the bowels of the building and immediately circles them as they take their turn to stand on the weighing scales, still holding on to their crash helmet and gloves.

The modern access to this previously hallowed sanctum also captures for us the precise moment when these young men step off the scales and onto the corporate juggernaut. For attending each driver is a member of their team’s marketing personnel. He first hands his charge a bottle of water and a towel but, as the water is downed and the face momentarily vanishes then reappears from the folds of the towel, he also passes on two other items; the obligatory sponsor’s baseball cap – and the driver’s wristwatch.

All of the above takes place in under ninety seconds as the TV audience must get to see the podium ceremony before the credits begin to roll, but isn’t it interesting that in this short timeframe the driver makes certain that he has these two items before ascending to the podium and then on to the televised press conference?

Of course motorsport has always had a close association with timing, and over the years the tables have turned from when the sport needed – and paid for – timing solutions to where the providers of these solutions now need – and pay for – any marketable association with the sport.

So when the driver turns to his post-race assistant in the moments after the race to exchange his helmet for his cap and his watch, he is, more often than not, slipping onto his wrist a watch which is not only his, but one which also bears his name, features a tribute to his achievements and also has the number ‘1′ of an exclusively limited edition of identical pieces which will be available for a short while before being sold out – immortalizing that watch and creating a collector’s item.

The first watch/driver endorsement I can recall with clarity was the TAG Heuer 6000 series Ayrton Senna edition when he was driving for Marlboro McLaren. The mesmerising combination of the car in it’s red and white colours and the yellow crash helmet is surely one of the most enduring F1 images I can think of. Still fresh twenty years and more on. I remember that watch so well because I wanted one badly, but living in the sticks, being not very well financed and before the rolling out of the internet, circumstances meant that sadly this was not to happen. C’est la vie.



Of course years beforehand, Jack Heuer (who had specialised in chronograph movements with sports timing in mind) and his eponymous watch brand Heuer cemented an enduring relationship with motor racing when Steve McQueen famously wore the Heuer Monaco Chronograph while starring in the wonderful 1971 movie ‘Le Mans’. So strong was the connection that today TAG Heuer still occasionally release Steve McQueen Monaco editions.

As a lad, TAG (at that time a manufacturer of high-performance turbochargers and components ) always caught my eye as an associated motorsport brand when it’s name adorned the flanks of the Williams racers of 1978 onwards. There was something about the design of their motif which somehow made it stand out from most of the other brands (excepting Air Saudia) which liveried the car at the time.

When TAG acquired Heuer watches in 1985, at a stroke one of the world’s best-known brand names and instantly recognisable corporate identities today was created, and the first place many of us saw the TAG Heuer brand was on the sides of the stunning Marlboro McLaren TAG Porsche MP4/2. This relationship between McLaren and TAG Heuer was much much deeper than most sponsor agreements as both organisations became umbilically intertwined commercially. The two brands remain inseparable to this day, and when one of the McLaren drivers is handed his watch before climbing the stairs to the podium, a closer look will reveal that it is always a new TAG Heuer piece, most recently the new Carrera model. 2008 F1 World Champion and McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton is one of a number of TAG Heuer’s brand ambassadors.



So, if Lewis Hamilton is ‘the face of’ TAG Heuer and no doubt his new stable-mate, current World Champion, Jenson Button, will next be seen sporting his new TAG Heuer, having safely placed last year’s Graham of London Brawn GP 001 Team Edition on it’s winder until he is contractually free to wear it again, which watches are being worn by whom in the Grand Prix paddock?

No better place to start I suppose, than with the World Champion. So Jenson Button, freshly signed to McLaren from World Constructor’s Champions, Brawn GP. What’s he wearing? Well, as I write above, it will be something from the higher end of TAG Heuer’s collections. We have yet to see what exactly. However, coming to McLaren from the most successful F1 team of all time (winning both Driver’s and Constructor’s championships in their first – and only – season!) he would have been quite happy to see Graham of London stepping in as watch partner and sponsor to his Brawn Grand Prix team.

Team principal Ross Brawn, having miraculously salvaged his team from the claws of oblivion following the departure from the sport of previous owners Honda in the last days of 2008, saw that his team hit the ground running. Late, but running…. well. So well indeed that by the seventh race of the season, Button had taken top honours in all but one! With this dramatic level of achievement, potential sponsors made their enquiries and midway through the season Graham of London appeared on the cars and on the wrist of the coming World Champion.



However Brawn GP lasted but one season – although that was long enough to rewrite the record books – and Mercedes acquired the team in the ‘09-’10 closed season. They needed a driver as their World Champ was gone! Following months of speculation, seven-times champion Michael Schumacher was announced as coming out of retirement and joining the German marque where his professional career had begun twenty years ago! Some coup!

The team still have Graham watches as their partner and it will be interesting to see who wears what around that garage as Schumacher currently remains a principal brand ambassador for rivals Omega. I dare say MS will get his way – just as he got his teammate Nico Rosberg’s team number ‘3′ because he didn’t fancy even numbers….. Graham will have to grit their teeth as the man whose salary they help pay ponders whether to wear his Graham or one of his eponymous signed Omega Speedmasters.

Nico Rosberg, who looks like a good team player (he’ll need that quality this year!), will take his Graham gladly, will wear it everywhere and smile broadly.

And so onto Jenson Button’s new home – McLaren. We know that they are joined at the hip to TAG Heuer who have some interesting pieces appearing this year, not least their Silverstone reissue and perhaps the belt-driven Monaco V4 which has been popping up in various shows and publications recently (although I first saw it as a concept at BaselWorld in 2007).



Ferrari have until recently enjoyed a partnership with Girard-Perregaux who created several beautiful watches as limited editions for the team. More recently though, Ferrari have gone a step further and can offer their own ‘Ferrari’ brand luxury watches. Manufactured for the grande marque by Panerai, it is a peculiar case in that Paneristi – collectors of a rare passion – for the most part consider these Ferrari as non collectible and they can be picked up at considerable discounts online. (They might be wrong if the brand is short-lived!)

A man whose cuff never seems to be able to conceal his watch is Brazilian Felipe Massa. Returning after a horrific freak accident last year from which he was fortunate to survive, he will once more be wearing Ferrari red and seems to have lost none of his speed in pre-season testing, which is great news. I missed seeing his enormous personalised Richard Mille protruding from the sleeve of his racesuit in the post-race press conference while he was at home recuperating last year. I also think his dad wears one too so it’s a nice deal for the Massa men as a Richard Mille will retail at $47,000 for a simple automatic right up to $495,000 for the Tourbillon Chronograph Diver! Sponsoring those Massa guys is an expensive way of getting a paddock pass…..



Former double World Champ Fernando Alonso has arrived as Massa’s teammate at Ferrari to much fanfare. He claims it was his destiny and it would be good for the competition to see this top driver in quality machinery. As far as his watches go, he did have a Fernando Alonso edition TAG Heuer a few years ago, but sadly rather put the kybosh on that arrangement when he spectacularly fell out with his then team McLaren. I notice that Spanish jewelery brand Viceroy have a current Fernando Alonso watch collection which retails for about €150 – €300. That would be Felipe 1, Fernando 0 in the Scuderia Ferrari wrist stakes then.

Sebastian Vettel is my favourite for the driver’s championship this year – sorry Seb, I’ve probably just put the clappers on you – in his Adrian Newey-designed Red Bull, one of 2009’s only Brawn contenders and definitely in with a strong shout if they can carry that momentum forward into 2010. But if he’s not busy winning GPs this year, then at least Vettel will be able to console himself by playing games on his watch. It’s a Casio you see, so unless his face is well known by the doormen in Monaco’s finest nightclubs, he might not even get in with one of those on his wrist!! Although, joking aside – to a Grand Prix team in today’s turbulent financial climate, Casio’s sponsorship $ is as good as any – even if the brand doesn’t pack the same cachet as the Swiss establishment.

The Williams F1 team have enjoyed a good relationship with Oris watches for a number of years so rookie driver Nico Hulkenberg will have his choice of Oris, whereas his experienced teammate Rubens Barrichello has a long-running – and very successful – partnership with current kings of the high-end sports watch Audemars Piguet which annually release a very limited number of new Rubens Barrichello Royal Oak Offshore pieces, usually available in diminishing numbers in carbon, titanium and rose gold. Again, like Schumacher, I imagine he will have a waiver of sorts from one manufacture or the other.



Renault have shaken off their battle scars from the indignity brought upon them by 2008’s Singapore ‘crashgate’ scandal which resulted last year in the departures in disgrace of team principal Flavio Briatore (who incidentally had his own signed F1 ‘Power Breaker’ editions created by de Grisogono – true fact) and technical director Pat Symmonds (who didn’t).



The 2010 Renaults are a sight to behold and if they go as well as they look, they could be fighting for podiums this year. Unfortunately they probably won’t go as well as they look. Their timing partner for 2010 is the emerging Dutch company TW Steel whose sub-£1000 oversized watches are certainly making an impact as they can be seen (or can’t be missed) in a high profile marketing campaign and I’m sure on the wrists of driver Robert Kubica and well-funded Russian rookie Vitaly Petrov.

The remaining teams; Force India, Scuderia Torro Rosso, Sauber plus newcomers Virgin Racing, Lotus, Campos and USF1 have no apparent agreements with watch companies yet, although some of their drivers have enviable endorsements from trackside favourites Audemars Piguet who boast Jarno Trulli and Sebastian Buemi as brand ambassadors for the Royal Oak Offshore chronographs.



TAG Heuer are a popular choice for many young or new drivers and because of their racing heritage, not to mention the marketing potential of the possibility of any of these guys being interviewed on TV in front of a global audience, the company make certain that their watches find their way to their wrists.

The Senna name will hopefully make a return to F1 in the form of the great Brazilian’s nephew Bruno who will be driving for the new Campos GP. I say ‘hopefully’ because there are doubts over the feasibility of the team and we will have to wait and see what happens with them (updated - Campos Racing now participating as the HRT Hispania Racing Team). The same might be true of the US F1 team too (updated - maybe next year!).

But Bruno Senna has perhaps one of the coolest brand ambassador roles of all. Bruno is a close friend of one Jean-Claude Biver, the hyper-energetic owner of the Hublot watch manufacture whose Big Bang models are raising the competitive bar to the aforementioned Royal Oak Offshore. Biver is a philanthropist and associates his brand with many charities around the world including the Instituto Ayrton Senna set up by Viviene Senna following Ayrton’ death in 1994.



In 2007 his company unveiled their fabulous all-black 500-piece Hublot Big Bang Ayrton Senna Flyback Rattrapante Chronograph in conjunction with the Instituto Ayrton Senna and it’s director Vivienne Senna. It will be the latest version of this, the Big Bang Ayrton Senna Foudroyant which Bruno will be sporting around the paddock and on the grid – that’s if his team make it to the Bahrain International Circuit on March 12-14.

Which neatly takes us full circle. Remember the TAG Heuer 6000 Series Senna Limited Edition that I never got to own? Well, many years later, I managed to get my hands on one of the original 500 Hublot Senna Big Bang Chronograph. It’s fab, it’s new in box and it’s never been worn (well it’s been tried on!).



It’s for sale….. but then that’s one of my interests nowadays."

Article sourced from TheWatchPress and written by yours truly.

I own a limited edition Schumacher Omega, here's a pic on my wrist:



Lovely little watch, is signed on the back, it commemorates the 2001 WDC. Someone's selling one on eBay and there are much better pics of the watch there too http://bit.ly/9rGoYV

You don't understand - Heuer was a watchmaker, TAG Heuer is not .

I have a lovely classic Speedmaster, which is great, but I find the MS editions embarrasing, to be frank.
Hell, I find the Moon Speedys embarassing ! ;)

Really? The same Heuer that sourced their Calibre 11/12 movement from Buren and Dubois-Depraz? The same one that sourced cases from Piquarez, bracelets from NSA, dials from Singer?

Actually, Heuer probably did less as a watchmaker than TAG Heuer do today....and that's not a criticism of Heuer, but just a reflection on the way that watches were made.

This idea that watch brands used to make watches themselves is largely a myth- with some expections, they were always assemblers.

Yep, advertising does make up a lot of the cost of a watch.

Actually, I was in the TAG Heuer factory- yes, factory- earlier this week. I'll have the post up on my website soon, so you can see and read for yourself what TAG Heuer do and don't do....

I bought one when kimi won the 2007 title.

Men like expensive watches because they haven't got anything else interesting to wear.

not very expensive... just got it: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviews/tra.../traser0052.jpg
i was considering to buy a tag heuer f1 series watch until i saw this...
built for the u.s. army, carbon fibre case, read some good things about it.

If you like Traser watches then check out Luminox. They are a similar military-style watch brand, but since they were taken over by Mondaine, things have gone downhill a bit. My advice would be to check out some earlier models.

I used to hate Rolex too, but then after years of wearing mechanical watches, working on them, and trying all of the different brands, well I ended up wearing a Rolex like my father did. I like Rolex because they go longer without service and for mechanical watches they stand up better than most. I today own a blue sub and a explorer II.
In the past I have owned Omega's, the Speedmaster Broad Arrow which I loved but had to be serviced every two years, I have owned both the quartz and mechanical Seamaster, both in stainless and Ti and since they all use the ETA movements, well they too had to be serviced every two to three years. I have also owned Chopard, August Reymond, Breguet, Zenith, Piaget, Tissot, TAG, actually over 100 mechanical time pieces and out of those the only ones I would keep would be the Zenith Chrono and the Chopard. I did like my Breitling Seawolf, but it was kind of boring soon after I bought it, so it too went off to a new owner.

http://www.lussori.com/Chopard-LUC-Classiq...-Gold-2328.html

and

http://www.lussori.com/zenith-chronomaster...piece-9362.html

The Breguet was nice but brittle, the Auguste Reymond was very classy, I had the Cotton Club, but also high maintenance, the Tissot was of lower price but stood up to anything, even more so than my beater watch which is a Casio G-Shock. I have owned 20 or so Tissot's.
The only ones I miss today, ones that I sold for more than I paid for them, are the Zenith Chrono and the Chopard. Anyway, my Explorer II has been keeping +2 seconds a day for 5 years without being touched and the blue sub is going on 7 years without being touched. I clean, inspect, oil and regulate them when they start to lose time, about 4 seconds a day. After that they are no longer with COSC spec and need to be serviced. Today because of ETA being owned by the Swatch group and with Breguet taking it's ebauche manufacturer back in house, Montres Breguet was sold to Novelle Lemania and then bought back again, Breguet is also a swatch brand, most manufacturers are building some of their own movements but 5 to 10 years ago, well almost all of them used ETA and there was nothing different between watches other than the presentation. Patek has always remained true, but even VC once strayed to the ETA for movements. JLC has also remained true as well. Even Rolex movements came from ETA, the old Daytona used to use the Valjoux 72 movement, then went to the Zenith movement and now their own in the Daytona.

By the way, look out for like Cal. Ronda, which is IMHO very cheap, unrepairable junk.

BTW, Girard Perregaux is owned by Gino Macaluso, FIA guy and former racer for Fiat. Great guy, great watch!

Outsourcing is in many cases a good thing; then again, look at Omega, Sinn and Rolex.

Valjoux 7750 movement.. Very stable, reliable and repairable.

I know all about Heuer but I don't think you quite understand all about TAG Heuer today.

not f1 but
http://www.lizardms.com/store/13.htm i like those watches

As a Ferrari fan and a watch fan I have a few;
a 1950s Vetta Ferrari chrono
a Cartier Ferrari Formula red face chrono, and one in grey
a Girard Perregaux Ferrari red face chrono
a Longines Ferrari dress watch
a Ferrari Pit Crew chrono
and a Tag Heuer Monaco (not Ferrari)
Nathan

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I visited the TAG Heuer HQ last week and have put up several posts here on the visit to both TAG Heuer (watch assembly) and Cortech (100% owned by TAG that manufactures case backs, movement components and cases).

I also interviewed TAG Heuer CEO Jean Christophe Babin and when reflecting on his 10 years at TAG, he kept coming back to the importance of re-building the companies reputation as a watch maker- not just a marketing brand.

Perception tends to lag reality, so its not surprising that when people think of TAG, many still think about the two-tone gold 4000 series from the 1990s (no offence to any owners of the two-tone gold!). Fortunately, there is a lot that has changed during Babin's tenure .

dc

What about sun-glasses?
I'm more interested in them (their easier to collect $$$)

What is Button wearing on that clip he takes the 12C for a ride?

Am also wondering what Jenson wears: http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/13247306

TH Grand Carrera Chronograph

It's true. As a watch elitist, that's why I don't want any of the new Tag watches. There are some great sites that sell vintage TAG/Heuer watches though.

Pardon my ignorance, is that comparable to Nike and its shoes?

Of course it is.

Air Jordan and Tiger Woods anyone?

Despite what anyone says, all the major brands worldwide that are hugely popular are marketing driven to the core.

When I say marketing driven....I mean that is what they are 99% about.

The quality and origins of TAG Heuer watches are basically irrelevant. Whether that's right or wrong....the fact is they are stylish watches and if you reeled off some of the names that have been forefront of their marketing strategies....you'd understand why.

anyone knows when the new line of TH formula 1 watches are presented, or coming out? the current collection is almost 1.5 years old