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Ross Stonefeld
Petrov did the same thing the corner before, so I think it's just people getting over-excited because it involved Lewis.
shambles
Does anyone know if the Forum for both Australia and Malaysia are on the BBC site (not the iplayer)? If so, could you please post me the links?
Thanks
Raincoat
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ Apr 4 2010, 10:47) *
Massa didn't have a top speed disadvantage against Buemi but still didn't pass him in his faster car.



But he still passed Button wave.gif
D.M.N.
QUOTE (shambles @ Apr 4 2010, 13:45) *
Does anyone know if the Forum for both Australia and Malaysia are on the BBC site (not the iplayer)? If so, could you please post me the links?
Thanks

They're not. All of it is now on iPlayer... but get removed after 7 days. Malaysia's can be found here.
wewantourdarbyback
QUOTE (Raincoat @ Apr 4 2010, 13:49) *
But he still passed Button wave.gif

What exactly has that got to do with whether Lewis would have been troubled by Button?

Also Massa didn't exactly fly past him did he?
KateLM
QUOTE (shambles @ Apr 4 2010, 13:45) *
Does anyone know if the Forum for both Australia and Malaysia are on the BBC site (not the iplayer)? If so, could you please post me the links?
Thanks


Pretty sure they are only on iPlayer for this year.

I don't get what the big deal is about the changing channels, yes its not ideal but its not like pressing one button and missing a fraction of a second of action really affected anyones enjoyment of the race. The Pope's thing is pretty important to some people and such services are nearly always broadcast on BBC1.
onemoresolo
Legard was poor today.

His shouting at the end of the race was nothing short of ridiculous. What the hell was that about? It was one of the worst bits of commentary I've ever heard. Just completely unnecessary shouting when Vettel crossed the line.
D.M.N.
QUOTE (onemoresolo @ Apr 4 2010, 16:20) *
Legard was poor today.

His shouting at the end of the race was nothing short of ridiculous. What the hell was that about? It was one of the worst bits of commentary I've ever heard. Just completely unnecessary shouting when Vettel crossed the line.

Err, he does that every race.
BigWicks
i swear he was even louder and more over the top today

if he was shouty and loud whenever something significant happened i could forgive him, but he isn't, it's completely staged and pathetic
onemoresolo
QUOTE (D.M.N. @ Apr 4 2010, 16:27) *
Err, he does that every race.


I know. Today was particularly bad though, as the microphone couldn't even handle it.
Don_Humpador
Not a single mention of McLaren in the post race forum and very minimal Ferrari discussion.

Odd, considering those 4 cars WERE the race.
BigWicks
QUOTE (Don_Humpador @ Apr 4 2010, 19:19) *
Not a single mention of McLaren in the post race forum and very minimal Ferrari discussion.

Odd, considering those 4 cars WERE the race.


the forum was really poor today. the bbc are fricking obsessed with lotus, i think thats the second forum out of three where we've had at length interviews with both lotus drivers and the management, i'm all for them showing an interest in the new teams but it shouldn't be at the expense of the other new teams (they have barely mentioned HRT so far) or the real stories of the day.
Don_Humpador
QUOTE (BigWicks @ Apr 4 2010, 19:21) *
the forum was really poor today. the bbc are fricking obsessed with lotus, i think thats the second forum out of three where we've had at length interviews with both lotus drivers and the management, i'm all for them showing an interest in the new teams but it shouldn't be at the expense of the other new teams (they have barely mentioned HRT so far) or the real stories of the day.


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It's great they give the lower down guys some airtime, but really, they didn't offer much else except multiple angles of one overtake (Massa on Button) followed by 15 minutes of Lotus and a few other random bits.

And nothing about the STRs - Alguesuari in particular had a great race which went completely unnoticed.
onemoresolo
QUOTE (Don_Humpador @ Apr 4 2010, 19:32) *
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It's great they give the lower down guys some airtime, but really, they didn't offer much else except multiple angles of one overtake (Massa on Button) followed by 15 minutes of Lotus and a few other random bits.

And nothing about the STRs - Alguesuari in particular had a great race which went completely unnoticed.


Agree with the Lotus thing.

I noticed in qualifying yesterday they made a big thing about them getting into Q2. Fair enough, but so did Virgin, which didn't get a mention.

Lotus are very open and willing to provide access and interviewees, and I think the BBC see it as an easy coverage generator. Why try and hassle the other teams when Lotus are offering it on a plate? Seems very lazy to me.
Gilles12
QUOTE (Madras @ Apr 4 2010, 11:37) *
So why cant Jesus be on BBC2?


But Jesus was on TV

He was in car number 3

He was caught on the radio saying, "Father (Ross), forgive Rosberg, for he knows not what he does..."
Ross Stonefeld
Well it's a 'home' race for Lotus so it's understandable they'd get extra focus this weekend.
pRy
I like the forum. It's a nice way to end the weekend, bunch of people you respect discussing the incidents etc. It works better when a lot of different people pop along to have a chat.. todays didn't work so well, but it was still worth tuning in for.
Murdoch
QUOTE (D.M.N. @ Apr 4 2010, 16:27) *
Err, he does that every race.


He turned the shouty volume up to '11' at the checkered flag, the man is bloody awful.

He's not getting better, in fact, I would say that this weekend he was close to his worst performance, ever. Qualifying was simply embarrassing, and the end of the race today made me feel quite uncomfortable.

Next time i'm gonna give 5 live a try, sorry Brundle, but enough's enough....
LB
Whine about Murray (well I used to, a lot), whine about Allen, whine about Legard. F1 fans will never ever change, just stop whining and watch the damn race!! If you could all do a better job then turn the volume down and commentate yourself. In fact do it! Its bloody hard I've tried!
craftverk
QUOTE (pRy @ Apr 4 2010, 20:22) *
I like the forum. It's a nice way to end the weekend, bunch of people you respect discussing the incidents etc. It works better when a lot of different people pop along to have a chat.. todays didn't work so well, but it was still worth tuning in for.

but they don't cover everything which I find annoying, they sometimes spend too much time on one subject, example there being three Ferrari engine failures

the forum is a great idea but it's not being applied as well as it could

QUOTE (LB @ Apr 4 2010, 20:31) *
Whine about Murray (well I used to, a lot), whine about Allen, whine about Legard. F1 fans will never ever change, just stop whining and watch the damn race!! If you could all do a better job then turn the volume down and commentate yourself. In fact do it! Its bloody hard I've tried!

the commentator i've had least trouble with was Allen, that didn't stop me from muting the TV at the start of races though, and the way he got overexcited was fricken annoying but I found him the most bearable

but it's probably that mentality which will keep Legard in his job... cry.gif
undersquare
QUOTE (LB @ Apr 4 2010, 20:31) *
Whine about Murray (well I used to, a lot), whine about Allen, whine about Legard. F1 fans will never ever change, just stop whining and watch the damn race!! If you could all do a better job then turn the volume down and commentate yourself. In fact do it! Its bloody hard I've tried!


We've watched the race hours ago. Now The Leg has to be criticised for being cr*p at his job, like the rest of us are/would be for being cr*p at our jobs.

And the people who spend our money giving each other jobs within their clubby little circle, instead of employing one of several decent commentators from outside, deserve a good slagging too.
onemoresolo
QUOTE (undersquare @ Apr 4 2010, 20:42) *
We've watched the race hours ago. Now The Leg has to be criticised for being cr*p at his job, like the rest of us are/would be for being cr*p at our jobs.

And the people who spend our money giving each other jobs within their clubby little circle, instead of employing one of several decent commentators from outside, deserve a good slagging too.


The thing is, they had their own co-commentators and pitlane reporters as well, but still took Brundle and Kravitz (great decision, not criticizing) so why were they so stubborn about the main commentator's role? If they'd had the same policy across the board then yeah, but as they looked elsewhere for other positions it seems a bit strange.
D.M.N.
QUOTE (craftverk @ Apr 4 2010, 20:41) *
but they don't cover everything which I find annoying, they sometimes spend too much time on one subject, example there being three Ferrari engine failures

the forum is a great idea but it's not being applied as well as it could


The only incident which should have been covered better in my view was Hamilton vs Petrov, but apart from that, I thought it was fine. They can't stay on air until they cover everything otherwise they'd be there for hours at some places!
F1Champion
EJ sweating! eek.gif

How was this guy a team boss. Sometimes DC and Jake shake their heads at what he says.
undersquare
QUOTE (onemoresolo @ Apr 4 2010, 20:44) *
The thing is, they had their own co-commentators and pitlane reporters as well, but still took Brundle and Kravitz (great decision, not criticizing) so why were they so stubborn about the main commentator's role? If they'd had the same policy across the board then yeah, but as they looked elsewhere for other positions it seems a bit strange.


Yup, beats the hell out of me. I have a lot of time for the BBC normally, but there is something wrong with this one.
d246
QUOTE (BigWicks @ Apr 4 2010, 19:21) *
the forum was really poor today. the bbc are fricking obsessed with lotus, i think thats the second forum out of three where we've had at length interviews with both lotus drivers and the management, i'm all for them showing an interest in the new teams but it shouldn't be at the expense of the other new teams (they have barely mentioned HRT so far) or the real stories of the day.



FFS - last week everyone was moaning about being McLaren/Button obsessed and biased against Hamilton. This week they give coverage elsewhere in the paddock and the bitching starts again.

Aside from Legard, their coverage is superb. The forum is a treat.
hansmann
How many times did he cut off poor Martin this weekend, is anyone keeping count ?

Nothing else wrong with Legard today - apart from his role model being the most annoying person on the planet ;) .

F1Champion
I'm starting to have an issue with the questions about Massa and Alonso, especially with Brundle. Brundle's always used to state that the man you have to beat first is your teammate. You shouldn't have it given to you on a plate. Ferrari have stated as far as I know an equal driver policy. Massa hasn't done anything wrong at all but Brundle insists that he should move over for Alonso. I kept screaming at him, shut up, why should he? He repeated it again in the forum.
Grenada
QUOTE (onemoresolo @ Apr 4 2010, 20:44) *
The thing is, they had their own co-commentators and pitlane reporters as well, but still took Brundle and Kravitz (great decision, not criticizing) so why were they so stubborn about the main commentator's role? If they'd had the same policy across the board then yeah, but as they looked elsewhere for other positions it seems a bit strange.



They stupidly never took Allen across from ITV because of all the Hamilton-haters writing in saying he was too pro-Hamilton. Hamilton-haters are very vocal, even if they are not in the majority.
Owen
QUOTE (F1Champion @ Apr 4 2010, 20:58) *
EJ sweating! eek.gif

How was this guy a team boss. Sometimes DC and Jake shake their heads at what he says.

Yeh, the sweating was ...ahem... rather unpleasant. EJ in general was a bit annoying this time round for me, he sits on the sidelines and his opinions are always 'extreme'. Possibly they are that way just keep him in the lime light. And he changes his opinion more times than he changes his socks (or his shirt) cat.gif
Schuting Star
QUOTE (F1Champion @ Apr 4 2010, 21:19) *
I'm starting to have an issue with the questions about Massa and Alonso, especially with Brundle. Brundle's always used to state that the man you have to beat first is your teammate. You shouldn't have it given to you on a plate. Ferrari have stated as far as I know an equal driver policy. Massa hasn't done anything wrong at all but Brundle insists that he should move over for Alonso. I kept screaming at him, shut up, why should he? He repeated it again in the forum.

Yep that annoyed me too. He was the first to attack Ferrari in the Schumi years for moving slower teammates aside for Michael (at times not without reason), but now it's okay and should be done?
Don_Humpador
Forget Brundle. Davidson is the future.
F1Champion
QUOTE (Schuting Star @ Apr 4 2010, 21:44) *
Yep that annoyed me too. He was the first to attack Ferrari in the Schumi years for moving slower teammates aside for Michael (at times not without reason), but now it's okay and should be done?


Precisely, its a all of a sudden change of view. I just didn't expect it of him.
D.M.N.
For anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TdOjnuAIko and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA5XSRnfqbQ

All credit to 'cocarroll' on Digital Spy.
Don_Humpador
QUOTE (D.M.N. @ Apr 4 2010, 22:14) *
For anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TdOjnuAIko and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA5XSRnfqbQ

All credit to 'cocarroll' on Digital Spy.


Slightly bizarre, but interesting. Thanks up.gif

Massa_f1
QUOTE (Schuting Star @ Apr 4 2010, 21:44) *
Yep that annoyed me too. He was the first to attack Ferrari in the Schumi years for moving slower teammates aside for Michael (at times not without reason), but now it's okay and should be done?



Over the years Brundle just praises the drivers he himself likes. Saying today that Massa should of moved over again this race having said it previous at last race. Then Jake was like hes leading the championship and he just sort of ignored that comment. i was just like shut up Martin. If it was up to Brundle Massa may as well not show up. I prefer Legard even if he does shout on.
LB
QUOTE (D.M.N. @ Apr 4 2010, 22:14) *
For anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TdOjnuAIko and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA5XSRnfqbQ

All credit to 'cocarroll' on Digital Spy.


Got to say the only racing game I ever mastered too is MarioKart! interesting reminds me of the days when i used to do football reports for student radio, cept I had to call about 14 different stations!

Legard is fine, I really do not see what anyones problem is.
kensaundm31
QUOTE (LB @ Apr 5 2010, 01:16) *
Got to say the only racing game I ever mastered too is MarioKart! interesting reminds me of the days when i used to do football reports for student radio, cept I had to call about 14 different stations!

Legard is fine, I really do not see what anyones problem is.


NO. Legard is not fine. He is completely useless, I cant stand the idiot!

I hate the way he just suddenly start shouting whenever the winner of the race crosses the finish line. I mean this race it was obvious Vettel was going to win from lap 1, yet he just starts shouting when he crosses the line like he is suddenly consumed with emotion. He obviously does it for the clips segement.

Just think of poor Martin in a little room and then some looney starts having a fit right next to you.

He has absolutely no redeeming qualities. Oh, actually he does, sometimes he shuts his mouth.

I would watch the other audio stream but I like Brundle too much.
Kenaltgr
QUOTE (Schuting Star @ Apr 4 2010, 21:44) *
Yep that annoyed me too. He was the first to attack Ferrari in the Schumi years for moving slower teammates aside for Michael (at times not without reason), but now it's okay and should be done?


He said on the Australia forum that Ferrari are scoring an own goal when Massa is holding up a faster Alonso. He's right, but no one wants to see the a return to the pathetic move over Schumacher years like Massa suffered in 2006
dansus
QUOTE (LB @ Apr 4 2010, 20:31) *
Whine about Murray (well I used to, a lot), whine about Allen, whine about Legard. F1 fans will never ever change, just stop whining and watch the damn race!! If you could all do a better job then turn the volume down and commentate yourself. In fact do it! Its bloody hard I've tried!



You make it sound like there isnt a better alternative.
.
dansus
QUOTE (Don_Humpador @ Apr 4 2010, 21:55) *
Forget Brundle. Davidson is the future.


Hmm, not so sure. There are some out there better than Davidson who you wont normally hear on British media but can be easily poached.
pingu666
i really need to watch f1 live so i dont haveto listen to legard :\

radiolemans guys take the piss out of him every week pretty much, especialy on the last midweek motorsports episode
Henrytheeigth
QUOTE (pingu666 @ Apr 5 2010, 13:02) *
i really need to watch f1 live so i dont haveto listen to legard :\

radiolemans guys take the piss out of him every week pretty much, especialy on the last midweek motorsports episode


Any link? biggrin.gif
kosmos
I watched for the first time a F1 race on the BBC and the commentators are boring, there is no rhythm, no passion, it's like having a robot as commentator. They sound monotonous, like they are half bored and half sleep.

LB
QUOTE (kensaundm31 @ Apr 5 2010, 02:28) *
NO. Legard is not fine. He is completely useless, I cant stand the idiot!

I hate the way he just suddenly start shouting whenever the winner of the race crosses the finish line. I mean this race it was obvious Vettel was going to win from lap 1, yet he just starts shouting when he crosses the line like he is suddenly consumed with emotion. He obviously does it for the clips segement.

Just think of poor Martin in a little room and then some looney starts having a fit right next to you.

He has absolutely no redeeming qualities. Oh, actually he does, sometimes he shuts his mouth.

I would watch the other audio stream but I like Brundle too much.


Murray Walker did nothing but shout and he is seen as the holy grail of commentators for some reason I have yet to fathom. Of course Legard does it for the clips/news, get used to it, its what his bosses want. rolleyes.gif
MinT
Legard I thought was pretty much okay until the shouting thing at the end - overdid it somewhat I think.
Andy Davies
QUOTE (Ross Stonefeld @ Apr 4 2010, 11:52) *
Because the BBC has to show certain events. Today is a pretty important religious holiday so I don't see anything wrong with them showing it. The BBC doesn't exist just to broadcast Formula 1.


Easter is only important for some people.

The agnostics amongst us just find the way everything shuts down for Easter annoying - in the UK all large shops inc DIY and gardening ones have to close on Easter Sunday - it's a breach of my human rights!

As for the BBCs coverage they well an truly screwed it up - I watched on my PVR and suddenly discovered ~20 laps from the end that I didn't have it all.

Andy
Gilles12
QUOTE (Andy Davies @ Apr 5 2010, 10:21) *
Easter is only important for some people.

The agnostics amongst us just find the way everything shuts down for Easter annoying - in the UK all large shops inc DIY and gardening ones have to close on Easter Sunday - it's a breach of my human rights!

As for the BBCs coverage they well an truly screwed it up - I watched on my PVR and suddenly discovered ~20 laps from the end that I didn't have it all.

Andy


Errr not sure what part of the UK you are from but all the usual shops in London are open Easter Sunday

And you can get the whole race on iPlayer...
Grenada
QUOTE (kensaundm31 @ Apr 5 2010, 02:28) *
NO. Legard is not fine. He is completely useless, I cant stand the idiot!

I hate the way he just suddenly start shouting whenever the winner of the race crosses the finish line. I mean this race it was obvious Vettel was going to win from lap 1, yet he just starts shouting when he crosses the line like he is suddenly consumed with emotion. He obviously does it for the clips segement.

Just think of poor Martin in a little room and then some looney starts having a fit right next to you.

He has absolutely no redeeming qualities. Oh, actually he does, sometimes he shuts his mouth.

I would watch the other audio stream but I like Brundle too much.



Totally agree. Legard is useless and quite embarrassing. That screaming at the end was so fake - it's like he's been told he's not enthusiastic enough so he has to artificially ratchet up the emotion by screaming incomprehensibly.

They just need to get rid of him ASAP.
wingwalker
QUOTE (pingu666 @ Apr 5 2010, 04:02) *
i really need to watch f1 live so i dont haveto listen to legard :\

radiolemans guys take the piss out of him every week pretty much, especialy on the last midweek motorsports episode


yes, link or quotes would be appreciated
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