Seriously, this arent posts i'd like to read while drinking my first coffee of the day!

Absolutly, which is still te most beautiful overtake in history imo.

Not in history, but in my watching of F1, at least. I agree, almost

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That Overtake on Rosberg in Australia , is one of the most difficult move you can undertake and was one of the best overtaking move of recent years. When, i saw it live, my heart was in my mouth. Amazing.

Aah, common ... Some people prefer a start to finish train and dont enjoy the most beautiful overtakes, especially historical overtakes from Lewis. Must have been a tough 4 races for em, with 32 straight overtakes from Lewis, while the second best doesnt even have half of that. I can imagion its a bit bitter.

I should have added that I liked Lewis's battle and pass on Schumacher as his best so far this year.

it was what i'd been waiting for

There you go you can admire him after all. In response to Katsumi...I think Lewis Hamilton is one of the freshest breaths of air to have blown through F1 for years! The current crop of drivers is outstanding in my opinion so the fact he can pull of the moves he does just goes to show his promise shown in Gp2 and before was real and he is top drawer talent.

Hamilton just seems to have incredible ability under braking and coupled with his aggression and racecraft, it makes him dynamite in terms of passing. It's exciting to watch...like it is watching Valentino Rossi in MotoGP overtake...again brilliant on the brakes. Phenomenal actually.

Absolutely! And it takes two to tango.

The pass on Kubica when he was so fa behind and braked much later, yet still mad the apex perfectly had me speechless.

Always wonderd what team lewis will go to next or will he stay at mclaren?

I don't see him going anywhere else to be honest. Or suddenly Ferrari is the team he dreamed of since he was a little kid.

I hope he stays at mclaren to be honest , I would like to see him team up with Ross at silver arrows

I think he would very much benefit from some time with Ross. He'd learn a huge amount and get the benefit of all Ross's experience.

Hamilton will go wherever he'll have the best odds of winning a title. If that means Ferrari, then it'll be Ferrari.

I think he should leave McLaren if they continue to not give him a fair crack of the whip. He should review it at the end of the year. Where would he go though - he wants a competitive car and it looks like Red Bull and Ferrari are the only ones comparable. There doesn't seem to be much room at the inn in Ferrari for the next few years (Alonso/Massa/Kubica) and there are rumours Kimi might join Vettel at Red Bull next year if Webber goes, so maybe he'll be stuck at McLaren playing reluctant second fiddle because there is no better option.

No mate really this is paranoia . There are particular circumstances in the last 3 races, they don't mean Lewis is No2. Jense has just been a very pleasant surprise to the team.

In Oz Lewis qualified badly because of hoongate - a lack of arrogance IMO, in Sepang he spun on his one possible lap, and in Shanghai he overdid the outlap on too-soft tyres, having with his RE overestimated the effect of the drop in track temp.

To some extent the Q's affected the race tyre calls, but basically he had worse sheer luck than Jense in Oz, was stymied by Sutil in Sepang, and had a bad communication from the pits in Shanghai.

In Spain, normal service will be resumed .

Not much has been said on here about the split from his dad.

Theyve been a team for 17 years before 2010 and had the closest bond that you could imagine in sport being father/child + manager/driver + Anthony was ever present and apparently pretty hands on in guiding LH.

I dont have a view on whether the split is good or bad thing ... time will tell - but the last reports (based on quotes from LH) were that they had not spoken for weeks. That just seems odd.

Surely, the fact of the split and the manner of the split (ie not speaking to one of your closest family members for weeks for whatever reason) must have be having impact on LH ....

I'll tell you what, as soon as Hamilton starts beating Button regularily I'll pull the triathlon card, blaiming everything on Jensons stupid long distance training. And the best things is, you'll have no choice but to agree with me...

Yeah, I was wondering about who his immediate support system is these days too. His father is obviously not around now, and Nicole is off doing Dancing with the Stars in the States (she's probably going to win). Does he have a best friend or someone around that they're not showing on TV?

Well I always look forward to agreeing with you as65p . And in fact we may end up agreeing about the triathlons because it seems since he joined McLaren he's stopped doing them. And look how well he driving .

At China his (biolocical) mother was there to support her son
At the first 3 races he was without any compagnion
At the begin of this season his physio , personal trainer and confident, Adam Costanzo (I hope it's his name) also left.

Even MW said after Australia, Lewis needs sombody, a manager, a confident some one to talk
Lewis answer to this kind of question is: he needs nobody,he has his team, he is happy.
Hmmm.

Glad to see that's what you think and I hope you're right. Not everyone is of that opinion: http://betting.betfair.com/betting/athleti...-pr-250410.html

Some "experts" actually think that one should bet on Jenson over Hamilton even at this stage:



This is why it is so confusing when you have people like David Croft saying the above. Is he not knowledgable then?

Have you got a link to that Grenada?

Because I'm actually open mouthed at that statement!

It must do and it is still a mystery as to what instigated the split. I am a bit confused - surely it can't have been all the negative comments about Anthony Hamilton in the pits? They should ignore the negativity and do what is right for them. I am also puzzled by the absence of Adam Costanzo. He was Lewis' right hand man - he even moved to Switzerland to be near him for his training - now he's gone too. There is only one person who is still a constant, Nicole, and even they split up briefly and she is concentrating on DWTS and so cannot support him.

I would love to know what has been happening and why and if this is really affecting Hamilton's driving. Mind you, he has been driving brilliantly except for qualifying. If he hadn't had that extra pitstop in Australia, he also might have had 3 podiums instead of 2 so his driving is innate and can't be taken from him.

See the link in my post.

Ah with you, didn't realise the quote and the link were related!

I'm very surprised at his words.

If someone was saying, like many button fan are, that button's chances at mclaren have been underrated and the first 4 races are proof of that then fine. If he continued that with Button has every chance at macca and in the EDC then fine too.
But to suggest that after 4 races, which have been eventful to say the least, particularly for Lewis, and during which strategy choices made possible beacuse of changing conditions have had a large part to play in the results...and at the end of which lewis is only 11 points behind him despite the various difficulties he's had...to suggest that button is favourite to beat lewis...well I'd say the majority of opinion is still against that.

And he seems pretty certain that this will happen. Maybe he knows that McLaren will give Lewis an inferior strategy for the rest of the GPs.

I think Hamilton is training his mind by dumping all these people. Almost like he is making himself into a stronger man. I think it's the best thing for him to do right now. A man has to learn to fend for himself because there will be times, especially with Martin Whitmarsh liking Jesnosn so much, when absolutely no one will be on his side.

I think it's a mistake. I think having support can make you stronger - look across the garage to see evidence of that. With Jessica and his Dad Jenson is happy and at full strength. And the beauty of having someone like your dad there is that he can tell Lewis the truth and not feed his ego.

Yes, but if JB wins even one race in "normal" conditions, majority opinion will change. Right now it is not clear how well LH is doing with looking after his tyres. We have had some contradictory info on that from various sources. Also, it is not clear in hard numbers whether LH is faster than JB and if so how much faster. LH has never been a really fantastic qualifier and that may now be exposed with low fuel qualis.

The LH v JB thread is the fastest growing thread at the moment ... and its because the picture is far from clear where they stand right now.

This is worse than I thought... No manager, no/a new trainer, new engineers, no entourage (his brother has also been nowhere to be seen).... I agree with Tkulla, no man makes it on his own. Even "selfmade" people are really at the head of a team. Sometimes the "team" is just a bunch mates and is nothing really formal .... usually there is a hierachy and some structure.

Unless he has a new team in place that the media and fans dont know about, this is more of a threat to LH winning the title this year than (for now) speculation about MW maybe wanting to cut LH down to size (....as there can be only one boss at Macca) or JB having "the best year of his life" ...or even SV having the best car.

Hamilton would play second fiddle only if he is mathematically out of the title race,if Hamilton should play second fiddle while he is still firmly in the title race then you can be sure that heads would roll and some people would be demoted in that team,one thing people should not forget is that Witmarsh still has someone above him and that is Ron,Witmarsh is closer to Lewis than Button is,Ron is even closer to Lewis,Ron owns the team,Witmarsh runs the team....do the math.

Don't worry too much about his family. I bet they will be with him once the European season starts...

Hamilton looks happy enough and seems to trust the team so I don't think a lack of an entourage is having an affect. He may need one to properly fight his corner within the team in a tight championship fight but that's a long way off yet. McLaren being 'Team Hamilton' was fiction, exagerrated by many, and Button's talent was also underestimated by many. I don't see the results as a susprise, considering how much of a lottery the last three races have been. If Hamilton needs to improve anything it's his qualifying performances.

If by "talent" you mean "luck", then I totally agree.

The spoon-fed man-child is now going it alone. I think this is the best decision Lewis has made, he needs to find his own way and his true self. Have you ever watched those Chinese movies when the main protagonist isolates himself into the forest to train for 40 days and 40 nights then come out a freaking killing machine at the end? That is what Hamilton is doing right now. I can't explain it any better than that.

What is wrong with his qualifying? You forget he has what, 17 pole positions already? Hamilton is the same man who out-qualified the RBR5 of Sebastian Vettel at it's peak of development in Abu Dahbi, by 0.6 seconds. The problem was not his qualifying pace, the problem was just unexpected situations.

buttons been beaten by hamilton in both dry races this season. there will be a lot more dry races than wet. so basicly if it sticks to the current formula of standard, hamilton will win comfortably by the end.

thats current form. statistically, hamilton is in a better position than button. so if you were a betting man, which is all statistics, betting on button is foolish.

crofty clearly lacked a bit of sensible judgement there when talking about betting and the odds for the season ahead.

Why so much focus on Hamilton's personal life? Of course you are puzzled by so many things - it's because you have a complete lack of information on what is going on in Hamilton's personal life. Just like any of us. And it should stay that way - after all it is his personal life.

Following on from the above, what has happened that is making everyone worry so much? The fact that Lewis is trailing Jenson in the points after just four races? This is causing us so much worry that we're clutching at straws?

The facts are that Lewis is trailing Jenson by only 11 points. To put this into perspective, we know that Jenson won 2 races so far. We also know that Lewis came 2nd in one of those races. That 1-2 accounts for 7 of those points difference Lewis trails by. That leaves only 4 points that Lewis trailed by, despite the fact that he finished 6th in Australia when Jenson finished 1st. That is almost half the points difference between 1st and 2nd positions.

In other words, as a hypothetical situation and to understand the situation in its proper perspective, if Lewis gets 2 wins in the next 2 races and Jenson finishes 2nd in both those races - Lewis would actually overtake Jenson in the points standing and be ahead by 3 points. That is, if Lewis gets the same number of wins and Jenson already has, and Jenson gets two 2nd places (1 more than Lewis already has), Lewis would be ahead.

What is all my rambling about? Simply that it's only been 4 races and there are 7 drivers, right up to 7th placed Kubica on 40 points within striking distance. It will only take a couple of wins to go a driver's way to change the table significantly.

The problem why so many of you are freaking out - speculating on Lewis' personal life; speculating on dreamed up team favouritism; speculating on anything and everything? Why? Because quite simply some fanboys here mistakenly underrated Jenson. Underrated him severely. Make no mistake, Jenson is a supremely talented driver. He may not be quite as quick as Lewis, but he's got a lot of experience and he's got a lot of speed. Yes he's underperformed in some previous years. But I believe this can be put down to being caught up in the fame and money that the F1 life brings, together with being in an underperforming team and underperforming car and losing focus and motivation. But these instances of lack of performance do not necessarily signify a lack of talent.

So then when we look at the reality of the situation, what we really have, is the case of a two supremely talented drivers. Lewis and Jenson. Two drivers and a mere 11 points separating them, with 15 races to go.

Yeah this. His Dad will be there, and most likely his Brother to. If Lewis has some bad performances then it's time to figure out why. But since he has had many great performances then it would suggest that without all these people round him he actually performs better.

We don't know the reason(s)
There are several rumors going around but nothing proofen
But this this situation makes Lewis not stronger at the moment, he is even more vulnerable than ever.
The one who can benefit most of Lewis separation is Button, who travel's always with his whole entourage and seems quite happy with it.
It is a really unvafourable point in time for Lewis that all the changes happed at the same time.

Well the media like differences., the unexpected, Jense in Ahead of Lewis Shock. Crofty is just speculating really, to make a readable story.

But looking at the actual weekends, it's all particular individual happenings that probably won't happen again.

A points lead which is going to grow, which is why so many people here are worried.
I stick with the #1 on Jenson's car and the #2 on Lewis' car.

Nah, don't worry so much. Even though I support Jenson, for the sake of your love of Lewis I wish you that Lewis will be victorious!

You do realize you're just jinxing the situation here?

Huh? "Going" to grow? Are you being a troll?