You gotta admit, he seems to give Fernando the shits at times eh?

In the post-2010 interview with Lewis on autosport's website, he dwelled a lot on the two times he let Alonso past at the end of the season. It seemed to pain him to remember it...

I think it's untrue to say Lewis has no similar feelings about Fernando, though. In the post-2010 interview with Lewis on autosport's website, he dwelled a lot on the two times he let Alonso past at the end of the season. It seemed to pain him to remember it... there's undeniably unfinished business between the two. Can't wait for a championship where it's one on one between the two of them. There will be blood...

Nice double bluff, then? Hamilton thinks he's got a psychological edge over Alonso, of course his fans think so anyway. Then the flag drops, and guess who is rolling over all on his own as soon as Alonso appears in his mirrors?

Nice double bluff, then? Hamilton thinks he's got a psychological edge over Alonso, of course his fans think so anyway. Then the flag drops, and guess who is rolling over all on his own as soon as Alonso appears in his mirrors?

Possibly, he doesn't name Webber either but maybe he's just limiting himself to competition that has actually won a WDC.

Indeed

Its strange that whenever Alonso is near him, Hamilton seems to lose all perspective on where he is and what he is doing, and Alonso knows that.

Indeed

Its strange that whenever Hamilton is near him, Alonso seems to lose all perspective on where he is and what he is doing, and Alonso knows that.

Indeed

Its strange that whenever Alonso is near him, Hamilton seems to lose all perspective on where he is and what he is doing, and Alonso knows that.

Mentioning Schumacher and Massa has he's main rivals, did either driver make it in the top 10 of rated drivers for last year, and ignoring other drivers who were far more competitive is somewhat laughable

And when Hamilton is near the toys start flying

Try and read the article first dude, he says that if Mercedes produce a good car Schumi will be an important contender, not so strange considering Schumi has more WDCs than the lot of them combined.
Secondly he hopes that Massa will be his main rival because that would mean the Ferrari is the class of the field.

Then he mentions Vettel which I think is quite logical as he is the current WDC who had at his disposal the best car in 2011 and finally he mentions the macca boys as favourites.
So whom did he ignore, Webber, Rosberg, Kubica??

Didn't Lewis overtake Alonso twice last season? Even stevens then.

Indeed

Its strange that whenever Alonso is near him, Hamilton seems to lose all perspective on where he is and what he is doing, and Alonso knows that.

I think it's untrue to say Lewis has no similar feelings about Fernando, though. In the post-2010 interview with Lewis on autosport's website, he dwelled a lot on the two times he let Alonso past at the end of the season. It seemed to pain him to remember it... there's undeniably unfinished business between the two. Can't wait for a championship where it's one on one between the two of them. There will be blood...

Try and read the article first dude, he says that if Mercedes produce a good car Schumi will be an important contender, not so strange considering Schumi has more WDCs than the lot of them combined.
Secondly he hopes that Massa will be his main rival because that would mean the Ferrari is the class of the field.

Then he mentions Vettel which I think is quite logical as he is the current WDC who had at his disposal the best car in 2011 and finally he mentions the macca boys as favourites.
So whom did he ignore, Webber, Rosberg, Kubica??

Me thinks it's not Fred's comments that are laughable.

Eeeuhm, melbourne 2010: team radio ferrari: hamilton is closing in on you fast
nando: I don't want to know


says enough to me

Twice? Canada, and what was the 2nd time?

I don't remember it either.

Did you watch the race, or only listened to the radio? "Don't want to know" or not, to me it looked as if even on his shot tyres Alonso was holding Hamilton up long enough to be collected by his good mate Mark Webber...

He just can't bring himself to mention him at all

I believe Alonso was joking with Stella when he said that

Well, we'll either both be exposed soon as Alonso fanboys with selective memory, or we'll find out that Hamilton fans count the interrupted attempt in Australia as a pass.

Nah , they're kind of even on interrupted attempts with lewis's pit stop in canada...unless we conclude lewis deliberately let alonso alongside in the hope he'd try and match his braking and therefore overcook the corner!

Twice? Canada, and what was the 2nd time?

He overtook Alonso at the start of the British and Malaysian Grand Prix IIRC. Also overtook him at the Australian Grand Prix, which Alonso reclaimed back via pitstops(When Lewis inexplicably was called in for a 2nd time)

No you're quite correct, my bad. Lewis only overtook Alonso once, in Canada as you've already said. I had it mistaken with Alonso being overtaken twice there - the second time by Jenson.

I don't count the starts, unless it's into the first corner and it is a classical overtake i.e outbrake, better exit etc.

I don't count the starts, unless it's into the first corner and it is a classical overtake i.e outbrake, better exit etc.

I don't remember him overtake Alonso in Australia - appreciate more details.

I think passes during the start phase are usually ommited from the official stats too, though I'm not quite sure what's the exact criteria.

Did you watch the race, or only listened to the radio? "Don't want to know" or not, to me it looked as if even on his shot tyres Alonso was holding Hamilton up long enough to be collected by his good mate Mark Webber...

I agree, though I feel it is exaggerated beyond a joke at times, the clip I posted was an example, I use it to highlight how Fernando actually acts how Lewis is supposed to act according to some posters, but really it's just a small piece of time which I find funny.
Some seem to forget the times where they are chatting away smiling, or patting each others back etc...The idea of a title coming down to the two of them isn't that far fetched IMO ;)

Webber was only 1 second behind Lewis and lapping at the same speed...

Any first lap pass is ommitted from the Clip the Apex stat. Their stats are probably the closest thing F1 has to an "official" stat on overtaking.

Personally, I think the full lap 1 is a bit much (for example, I think Hamilton's lap 1 pass on Vettel in Turkey deserved to count). But I definitely agree that T1 passes aren't "overtakes" in the sense I understand the word (much like passing someone who is slowing with an obvious problem - which are also excluded).

When Alonso suffered that brainfade with Jenson into the first corner....Lewis came around the outside on the grass.

To all Lewis Hamilton fan,am i the only one that think its weird that in every press release from the team,its always Jenson first not Lewis.Going back to before Jenson join the team it was the other way.In every other team they call the number one driver name first in every press release,what iam saying is,did Jenson earn that number one spot.Do you think a driver would negotiate something like that in their contract.Maybe iam seeing something that's not there.

To all Lewis Hamilton fan,am i the only one that think its weird that in every press release from the team,its always Jenson first not Lewis.Going back to before Jenson join the team it was the other way.In every other team they call the number one driver name first in every press release,what iam saying is,did Jenson earn that number one spot.Do you think a driver would negotiate something like that in their contract.Maybe iam seeing something that's not there.

No thats just forum propaganda, and if people like you say it enough times you start to believe it, and as you have displayed above, stated an opinion as fact. The fact we have seen Ron in the pits on ocassion embracing Lewis and enjoying racing from a back seat is testament to his achievements over the years. Ron is still very much part of Mclaren and nobody was in a position to make him step back unless he thought the time was right. If you seriously believe what you have said above as a truthful interpretation, then I can't stop you having that view, but please excuse me if I think its a load of unsubstantiated rubbish born amongst rival fans on forums, simply as a cheap dig at something they obviously know nothing about.

To all Lewis Hamilton fan,am i the only one that think its weird that in every press release from the team,its always Jenson first not Lewis.Going back to before Jenson join the team it was the other way.In every other team they call the number one driver name first in every press release,what iam saying is,did Jenson earn that number one spot.Do you think a driver would negotiate something like that in their contract.Maybe iam seeing something that's not there.

It is more than 'forum propaganda' tifosiMac.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorspor...Ron-Dennis.html

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/2009/04...86908-21318300/

It's absoluteley annoying from McLaren always to name Button first
in nearly every interview with some McLaren responsible, always the "Jenson first" mantra
I guess who installed this prayer wheel
http://mclaren.com/2010

It is more than 'forum propaganda' tifosiMac.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorspor...Ron-Dennis.html

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/2009/04...86908-21318300/

I thought i was going crazy to notice that,the team should be a lot more even with the two driver.

I have no idea why you seem to think that contradicts what I wrote

To all Lewis Hamilton fan,am i the only one that think its weird that in every press release from the team,its always Jenson first not Lewis.Going back to before Jenson join the team it was the other way.In every other team they call the number one driver name first in every press release,what iam saying is,did Jenson earn that number one spot.Do you think a driver would negotiate something like that in their contract.Maybe iam seeing something that's not there.

I respected that because Jeson was the reign WDC.

But Whitmarsh still on this.

It is more than 'forum propaganda' tifosiMac.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorspor...Ron-Dennis.html

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/2009/04...86908-21318300/

So now the discussion goes from Alonso being arrogant for not specifically naming Hamilton as a threat, to the annoyance of Mclaren always refering first to Jenson and then to Lewis...

Are you guys sure youre not overreacting just a little tiny bit?