I suppose he had it in his head that he had to outdrive the car a bit, and that if he did a win was a possibility, probably the only chance this year. Anyway he's not really a calculating kind of driver, we just have to live with that. And all the greats have crashed out at Monaco, at least it's not going to cost a wdc.

Hope they don't fuel him too heavy.

We saw lots of small errors today. Massa was lucky his didn't result in a repeat of Kimi's 2007 qualifying fumble, others were lucky there were no walls around. Shit happens, even with Hamilton. But he still has the entire race to salvage the weekend and it doesn't take that much for him to put in a great result.

Exactly. It's probably hard to watch if you're a big fan of him, but I actually love that he's unpredictable. To me that's what watching a race is all about. We've got such a great mix of drivers on the grid at the moment, all with such different styles and mental approaches I love it.

I'd rather see Lewis do a few overtakes at Monaco and not get a point, than start from pole and finish first. Not to knock a potential Button victory, I'm just talking about from a spectator point of view.

You mean the last corner of the in-lap?

Where's the "bangs-head-against-the-wall" smiley when you need it?

He has to get his head around the fact that he's neither Gilles nor Senna and re-work his Monaco approach from there. Every of the 3 races he's done her in F1 he has looked like binning it any second. Often enough his massive talent has saved him (well, and an incredible amount of luck with the SC last year) but he's literally an accident waiting to happen around this place.

We complain about people cruising and collecting and then when we get someone that pushes 100% of the time. Like I said, I prefer to watch a driver pushing rather than a driver just collecting points.

After he retires I am sure people will remember him as a racer.

He needs to push and collect points though.

Got to ask, what age are some of the people in this thread? do they only watch F1 to actually just slag of Lewis? Where the hell does such hate develop from that they lose grip?

We've got people raging on like hes a child molester and wanting him banned, I hope Ferrari does leave and take most of these idiotic fans with them.

Lewis is not going to be winning the WDC this season so he might as well go for it. It will be a tall order for him to get into the points tomorrow but I'm looking forward to seeing him try, because I know he will try.

At the end of the day, some folk just don't know what they want. They just want to feel the driver that stole their heart is the most special of all. That applies to both sides of course.

Lewis has many years ahead of him to nail this place, and I hope he does that by being consistently on the edge, rather than just consistant

This year since collecting points won't really do anything for him, it's 100% all the way.

Last year when WDC was on the line, he did collect. Singapore and Brazil are the two key examples.

If he crashed on a last minute attempt to snatch pole I would agree. As it is, I think the "100 percent all the time" statements are just an excuse for one of the silliest driving errors I saw in a long time from a top driver.

Actually there were two errors, the little out-of-shape moment would have meant nothing had he done the sensible thing and open up into the escape road. But no, he's Lewis and can handle a car through the corner even with a messed-up entry... not quite, this time

I can't help but to laugh though.

I predicted in the live forum that Hamilton will say that the crash will make him stronger.

Isn't the ignore list a great thing

Gutted to see Lewis in the wall, but really looking forward to see what he can achieve tomorrow!

I can't wait to see the fuel loads.

I don't think it's an excuse. It's clear that Lewis has had to drive the McLaren on its limit to put it where he has been putting it. Since the car is so bad, he has to push 100% right after Q1 starts to make sure he will go through.

what exactly would you like him to say that would suit your sensibilities?

We really need that "bangs-head-against-the-wall" smiley...

With all the various things that have all made him stronger, I think he should consider being finally strong enough and stop doing all those things that will "make him stronger".

"Shit happens, I screwed up, now let's forget this and hope for a better race".

Not this typical crap "i am invincible, god is with me, and this will only make me stronger".

Exactly, obviously the guy is talented but he lacks a bit in the brain dept. and this was yet another display of that.

The "this is what makes you stronger" comments from his part are imo a bit silly too, because they only make you stronger when you actually learn from them and Lewis certainly doesn't seem to.

Oh well maybe with an attacking strategy and flawless driving he might be able to salvage some points tomorrow, a certain Michael Schumacher managed to drive from 22nd to 5th in Monaco not too long ago.

My life's been a lot simpler since populating that list too.

Same feelings really. But at least he's in good company. I'll always remember Senna binning it in '88 - real drivers who play on the edge occasionally fall off. He was thrilling on Thursday - but that car did look like a mighty handful at those sorts of speed.

Hu? The McLaren on this track was a Q3 capable car easily. Did you miss Heikki getting there without any drama whatsoever, for the first time this season?

On the first, essentially meaningless Q1 runs (maeningless because everyone will go miles faster on there 2nd runs) there was absolutely no need to be on the edge or over it. Other than misplaced pride and an oversized ego, that is...

Actually, it was: "I apologise to the team for wasting their time, and at least Heikki is doing well," he said. "He is up there. I wish him all the best. Tomorrow I will do the best job I can to try and recover from it. It's just been tough, but you learn from these mistakes and they are bound to happen. It's unfortunate it happened in the first part of qualifying, but this is what makes you stronger."

No invincible, no god. quite humble really.

Except that's exactly what he said in the BBC interview.

Unfortunately, the problem is, you are making up what he is saying, so in that regard, what ever he says is never going to be right for you, because I don't think is the problem with what Lewis is saying, more the problem is with what you think he is saying.

xman- what a child you are. Here is what Hamilton actually said. (please note it is not the imaginary one who lives in your head):

My race weekend for a win is for sure over. I just don't know what I was thinking. I made a mistake. It had been going well all weekend. I apologise to the team for wasting their time, and at least Heikki is doing well. He is up there. I wish him all the best. Tomorrow I will do the best job I can to try and recover from it. It's just been tough, but you learn from these mistakes and they are bound to happen. It's unfortunate it happened in the first part of qualifying, but this is what makes you stronger.

Just a mistake.

Or that, fine with me. Say so and be done with it.

But not this "the ghost of Gilles under his wings" bollocks, please.

At least not for what happened today.

I remember someone else crashing in Monaco qualifying was it in 2007. Somehow, I doubt people said he should have taken it easy to get through to Q3 cos the car was easily capable of it.

And of course people have crashed in qualifying all the time. Does that mean they didn't have a brain, like Hamilton is now accused of not having?

Oh Will..
What has happened to your lovely thread..

Yuck
Jp

Hunnylander- these Hamilton bashers are quite a strange bunch. They profess to know what he was thinking, and state what he should say, yet fail to grasp the irony in the ridiculous nonsense they end up spouting in order to criticise him.

Oh I remember thinking exactly that back then, and I was not alone.

Either my or your memories seem to be selective...

Funny thing is, you're not quite so vocal when Kimi has his issues.

Yeah, he didn't say he's invincible or god is with him now. But he's said so earlier, sometimes what you say in the past will haunt you in the future.
I can find you numerous god quotes from Lewis if you want. But you can google those yourself as well. What I was saying it's making Lewis look like an idiot when he's repeating that "stronger" crap all the time, and still he's making mistakes.

When you hype yourself up and set high expectations but fail to exceed them, it will be long fall back to earth.

I guess it was started on the wrong board.

Maybe here would have been a better place.

And likewise with posters, when they make things up to bash, then they lose all credibility

I just googled for "hamilton invincible" and not a single relevant hit came up. Please back up your accusations.

What's interesting is that immediately after Hamilton makes a mistake this or some other Hamilton related threads fill up with anti-Hamilton fanatics who make up unsupported stories about him.

I think a few die-hard KR supporters on this board would disagree...

Well, you should have tried "Hamilton god" instead.

Here is just the first google hit, please explore the others on your own.

Quite the collection of bitter people on here. Attributing false quotes to him, criticizing him for saying he'll learn from it and it will make him stronger?

What a horrible bunch of people.

Senna saw Jesus on circuit too. Go figure.

OK so he said something arrogant LAST YEAR. Why is he bringing it up now. Isn't it concievable that Hamilton has changed. Didn't you guys want hamilton to change?

Seems like some of you are clutching at last years quotes because Hamilton didn't give them anything to bite on this year.

I agree, you have to be really sad to criticise someone for saying they will learn from their mistakes.

I can't see why someone being who is religious and vocal about it, can be mistaken as arrogant when saying they think their god/gods, are watching over them ....

I might be wrong though.....

It'd be interesting if there would be a furor if he said he didn't believe in god, I'm pretty ambivalent on it all, but I don't see anything to knock if someone is religious unless they are trying to push there particular branch onto others.

And generally generated the same kind of responses Hamilton get's for it now, if not more hefty.

Go figure indeed.

Anyway I didn't care for Senna's religious beliefs and certainly not for Lewis'. I was just going to show that the accusations of him saying such things are NOT haters inventions as some lovers would like us to believe.

Their equivalent of masturbation I suspect.