Lada Lover
May 23 2009, 01:55
Button fans vs. Hamilton fans. This race is going to be pretty good.
OfficeLinebacker
May 23 2009, 02:39
That's British on British crime! LOL
teejay
May 23 2009, 03:20
QUOTE (Lada Lover @ May 23 2009, 09:55)

Button fans vs. Hamilton fans. This race is going to be pretty good.
A bit ahead of yourself right there!
Hopefully Lewis pulls something special out.
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 22 2009, 21:34)

MWM, stop hiding behind the excuse of doing it because of another forum member, who YOU think, likes Hamilton too much. No-one is buying it. The question is, have you managed to convince yourself that that is the reason?
You really do have issues.
Your "issue" is that I have not been bullied into taking an entirely uncritical view of Hamilton, despite the screaming hoards wishing it to be so. I don't subscribe to mob justice, sorry. The last person on this forum who saw fit to judge my psychological state turned out not to be a psychologist or psychiatrist, but a.....composer. If you want to back up your no-doubt crowd pleasing, but, I would suggest flimsy, conjecture with any credibility, perhaps you could tell us what your professional qualifications are?
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ May 23 2009, 00:12)

Thanks for posting that. He comes across really very well there I think. I came twice while watching.
lol
QUOTE (OfficeLinebacker @ May 23 2009, 03:39)

That's British on British crime! LOL
Heh.
That said....I don't get the jingoistic idea that British fans support British drivers
automatically (or citizens of any country automatically supporting drivers from their own country). Support for a driver can be based on a variety of things, of course. The driving style, what that driver is like as a person. Their honesty. Their integrity. Their humility...
The nationality of the driver might come into it to some small degree, but surely it should be waaaay down the list?
nudger1964
May 23 2009, 09:54
my only comment,
love him or hate him, any racing fan surely has to find him around monaco a thrill to watch.
overall its just subjective how *great* he is...but around monaco he is just awesome
nudger1964
May 23 2009, 10:01
QUOTE (MWM @ May 23 2009, 10:58)

Only beaten in "awesomeness" by Button, Rubens, Massa, Alonso and Kimi at this stage of Practice 3....

ah, but even if he was last place, thats not the point...watching his style is what im talking about
sorry, that was a second comment....lets call it a clarification of my original point huh
RoutariEnjinu
May 23 2009, 10:19
QUOTE (MWM @ May 23 2009, 10:29)

Your "issue" is that I have not been bullied into taking an entirely uncritical view of Hamilton, despite the screaming hoards wishing it to be so. I don't subscribe to mob justice, sorry. The last person on this forum who saw fit to judge my psychological state turned out not to be a psychologist or psychiatrist, but a.....composer. If you want to back up your no-doubt crowd pleasing, but, I would suggest flimsy, conjecture with any credibility, perhaps you could tell us what your professional qualifications are?
Again, playing the same card of not wanting to conform with people who think he's the second coming.
That isn't what this is about, and this is simply not your motive. You stoop as low as to insult his family, and people he's in a relationship with outside of F1 too. You go out of your way to do it. You keep repeating your opinion of him over and over as if you think you have some privileged position to pass comment on him that we should all heed.
I also find it strange that you're wanting to know my profession before first considering that your obsession is a problem.
I'll say it again, you are just as predictable, just as tedious, and just as repetitive and tiresome as the people you claim motivate you in to being so predictable, tedious, repetitive and tiresome.
You are not better than these people. You are one of them. You go out of your way to derail threads. Have you forgotten that a chunk of this thread has been deleted because you saw fit to bump up this thread, just to take the piss out of, not Lewis, but Lewis' girlfriend? Do you think the mods were acting unfairly in deleting your post? Or on reflection of that incident, can you see how tiresome you are?
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 11:19)

Again, playing the same card of not wanting to conform with people who think he's the second coming.
That isn't what this is about, and this is simply not your motive. You stoop as low as to insult his family, and people he's in a relationship with outside of F1 too. You go out of your way to do it. You keep repeating your opinion of him over and over as if you think you have some privileged position to pass comment on him that we should all heed.
I also find it strange that you're wanting to know my profession before first considering that your obsession is a problem.
I'll say it again, you are just as predictable, just as tedious, and just as repetitive and tiresome as the people you claim motivate you in to being so predictable, tedious, repetitive and tiresome.
You are not better than these people. You are one of them. You go out of your way to derail threads. Have you forgotten that a chunk of this thread has been deleted because you saw fit to bump up this thread, just to take the piss out of, not Lewis, but Lewis' girlfriend? Do you think the mods were acting unfairly in deleting your post? Or on reflection of that incident, can you see how tiresome you are?

This surely has to be the post of the year

You are right. He thinks the more he posts his crap the more people will read it. I normally just jump such posts because they are all too repititive.
BMW_FAU
May 23 2009, 10:24
Judging by his signature, it's clear he's a Kimi and a Ferrari fanboy. Perhaps he could lend his skills in all the Kimi wank threads.
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 11:19)

Again, playing the same card of not wanting to conform with people who think he's the second coming.
That isn't what this is about, and this is simply not your motive. You stoop as low as to insult his family, and people he's in a relationship with outside of F1 too. You go out of your way to do it. You keep repeating your opinion of him over and over as if you think you have some privileged position to pass comment on him that we should all heed.
I also find it strange that you're wanting to know my profession before first considering that your obsession is a problem.
I'll say it again, you are just as predictable, just as tedious, and just as repetitive and tiresome as the people you claim motivate you in to being so predictable, tedious, repetitive and tiresome.
You are not better than these people. You are one of them. You go out of your way to derail threads. Have you forgotten that a chunk of this thread has been deleted because you saw fit to bump up this thread, just to take the piss out of, not Lewis, but Lewis' girlfriend? Do you think the mods were acting unfairly in deleting your post? Or on reflection of that incident, can you see how tiresome you are?
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 11:19)

Again, playing the same card of not wanting to conform with people who think he's the second coming.
That isn't what this is about, and this is simply not your motive. You stoop as low as to insult his family, and people he's in a relationship with outside of F1 too. You go out of your way to do it. You keep repeating your opinion of him over and over as if you think you have some privileged position to pass comment on him that we should all heed.
I also find it strange that you're wanting to know my profession before first considering that your obsession is a problem.
I'll say it again, you are just as predictable, just as tedious, and just as repetitive and tiresome as the people you claim motivate you in to being so predictable, tedious, repetitive and tiresome.
You are not better than these people. You are one of them. You go out of your way to derail threads. Have you forgotten that a chunk of this thread has been deleted because you saw fit to bump up this thread, just to take the piss out of, not Lewis, but Lewis' girlfriend? Do you think the mods were acting unfairly in deleting your post? Or on reflection of that incident, can you see how tiresome you are?
Hadn't Bumper warned you about posts like that?
I know a number of posts by a number of people were deleted, included one of mine.
Perhaps you should consider looking in a mirror.
As for "derailing threads", this is, if you hadn't noticed, the "Lewis Hamilton" thread. Did you see that?
Now....where do you read that that is to be undiluted praise of Lewis?
Where does it say we should not comment on his girlfriend or his family?
Do you get it yet?
I don't suppose you will, and you will come back with the same old bullying....zzzzzzz.
BMW_FAU
May 23 2009, 10:28
QUOTE (MWM @ May 23 2009, 11:24)

I know a number of posts by a number of people were deleted, included one of mine.
Perhaps you should consider looking in a mirror.
As for "derailing threads", this is, if you hadn't noticed, the "Lewis Hamilton" thread. Did you see that?
Now....where do you read that that is to be undiluted praise of Lewis?
Where does it say we should not comment on his girlfriend or his family?
Do you get it yet?
I don't suppose you will, and you will come back with the same old bullying....zzzzzzz.
Kimi and Ferrari get undiluted praise from their fans as well. I don't see you going around saying negative things about him or his family/relationships though.
QUOTE (BMW_FAU @ May 23 2009, 11:28)

Kimi and Ferrari get undiluted praise from their fans as well. I don't see you going around saying negative things about him or his family/relationships though.
This is the Lewis Hamilton thread...
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 12:19)

Again, playing the same card of not wanting to conform with people who think he's the second coming.
That isn't what this is about, and this is simply not your motive. You stoop as low as to insult his family, and people he's in a relationship with outside of F1 too. You go out of your way to do it. You keep repeating your opinion of him over and over as if you think you have some privileged position to pass comment on him that we should all heed.
I also find it strange that you're wanting to know my profession before first considering that your obsession is a problem.
I'll say it again, you are just as predictable, just as tedious, and just as repetitive and tiresome as the people you claim motivate you in to being so predictable, tedious, repetitive and tiresome.
You are not better than these people. You are one of them. You go out of your way to derail threads. Have you forgotten that a chunk of this thread has been deleted because you saw fit to bump up this thread, just to take the piss out of, not Lewis, but Lewis' girlfriend? Do you think the mods were acting unfairly in deleting your post? Or on reflection of that incident, can you see how tiresome you are?
That's 16 times YOU and 4 YOUR's how about sticking to the subject and not attacking other posters?
BMW_FAU
May 23 2009, 10:35
QUOTE (MWM @ May 23 2009, 11:32)

This is the Lewis Hamilton thread...
Yes. The point is, before the post cull, you mentioned that you focused on lewis hamilton because other drivers didn't get the same worship as him when it fact that's obviously false.
I don't see you in the "king of spa" thread, posting against the undiluted praise of kimi. I think your signature just gives it away.
QUOTE (MWM @ May 23 2009, 11:24)

Hadn't Bumper warned you about posts like that?
I know a number of posts by a number of people were deleted, included one of mine.
Perhaps you should consider looking in a mirror.
As for "derailing threads", this is, if you hadn't noticed, the "Lewis Hamilton" thread. Did you see that?
Now....where do you read that that is to be undiluted praise of Lewis?
Where does it say we should not comment on his girlfriend or his family?
Do you get it yet?
I don't suppose you will, and you will come back with the same old bullying....zzzzzzz.
You have a right to criticize or even hate a driver, his family, his great grandmother if that is up to your style. However, you don't have to polute the thread with the same bile everytime you post. Somebody reads your post first time, 2nd time they get the point. After some time, it appears like an obscession....it is no longer about a driver...it becomes you. At that stage you turn most people off and that is what you are doing. That is the whole point and that is where you are going off the rails.
RoutariEnjinu
May 23 2009, 10:38
"number of posts by a number of people were deleted, included one of mine"
Yet more spin. The deletion started from your cheap shot at his girlfriend, completely unrelated to any racing, and the posts after it of people fed up with your bile.
And if I'm bullying, then you are doing the same from a cowardly position behind the back of people you don't know. So give it up.
And this thread isn't about undiluted praise. But again, when confronted, you play innocent as if you're being fair, forgetting how often you keep repeating the same drivel. Just like a Lewis fanboy repeats his own. Both are poison to any kind of decent debate about the driver.
"Where does it say we should not comment on his girlfriend or his family?"
Where does it say you shouldn't comment on waterbottles or frogs? And again you're trying to play the innocent with your choice of word "comment". It's not a comment, it's constant insult about how she's old, or Tina Turners mother. Over and over. Nobody laughed the first time, so you tried the same line again, with the same picture, in another thread. It's like you're on some kind of marketing drive. It's an obsession.
You're either a very dishonest and twisted person with how you keep trying to defend yourself with spin, or you've even got yourself fooled into believing your own justifications for passing "comment" on his friends and family.
QUOTE (MWM @ May 23 2009, 11:32)

This is the Lewis Hamilton thread...
Kimi's thread, see you there...
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?show...431&hl=kimi
teejay
May 23 2009, 10:48
Its annoying to read the some drivel spewed out over and over.
Fine, have an opinion, but there is no need to constantly ram the same stuff down everyone's posts.
maverick69
May 23 2009, 10:54
QUOTE (teejay @ May 23 2009, 11:48)

Its annoying to read the some drivel spewed out over and over.
Fine, have an opinion, but there is no need to constantly ram the same stuff down everyone's posts.
Indeed. I joined this forum from another "prominent" one in order to have a little more of a sensible debate. Seems I got here a bit late.
RoutariEnjinu
May 23 2009, 10:55
And sorry to folk for me going off on one, but this guy is just a first rate hypocrite when it comes to justifying himself, and out of all the brilliant drivers we have in F1 at the moment, it seems to be socially acceptable to trash this one over and over with the same "points", and you can rarely discuss his driving without it descending in to Big Brother Paddock.
No-one wants a criticism free thread about any driver, but if you're trying to discuss him as a driver, and not a personality hired to be Jesus, both the fanboys, and MWM stop you. He just plain as day trolls. Check his caption thread entry on Nicole. How much does it look like he decided he wanted to say something insulting first, then tried desperately hard to think of something witty second. The caption was shit, and it was forced.
Oh and if you want to be a Lewis Hamilton fan, fair play to you. You're no different to any other fan of any other driver. Don't let this clown think you're any worse than any other fan of any other driver. I certainly don't see any significant difference.
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 11:38)

Where does it say you shouldn't comment on waterbottles or frogs?
I think we are free to comment about Lewis Hamilton's waterbottle.
I'm not sure how frogs relate to Lewis....are you saying he is an amphibiophile? If he is, good on him. Frogs of various breads have been decimated globally in recent years, and credit to him for highlighting their plight. If he has no real interest in, or link to, frogs, I think the subject would not be relevant in this thread.
He is related to his father and is in a relationship with his girlfriend, so it is hard to see any logical angle to justify their exclusion from a "Lewis Hamilton" thread. Until there is a credible reason suggested as to why his relations and relationships, as well as the lad himself, should be excluded from this thread, I personally feel we should stick to the subject, and drop the crude attempts at stifling discussion.
Anyway, I am looking forward to watching Lewis, and others, in Monaco qualifying. He was slower than Heikke in Practice 3, no doubt due to very different fuel loads. It will be interesting to see, given that this years McLaren is evidently something of a dog, how Lewis is able to keep motivated now he accepts the WDC is out of reach. I think, as (imho) one of the top 4 or 5 drivers currently in F1, Lewis will be able to squeeze more out of the car here than most, and his exciting driving style lends itself well to dramatic -looking cornering here. Perhaps it's a shame that he wasn't driving in the real arse-out period of F1 at Monaco.
And I hope his waterbottle doesn't stop working or anything...
wewantourdarbyback
May 23 2009, 11:21
QUOTE (potmotr @ May 22 2009, 23:19)

Flight, London Gatwick - Nice: 9 quid
Cheap (but clean!) Nice hotel: 40 quid
Bus to Nice train station: 1 quid
Return train to Monaco: 5 quid
Grandstand ticket, Casino Square 50 quid
Return flight to London 20 quid
Food and beers 20 quid
Postcards and Monaco fridge magnet 7 quid
Experiencing Monaco - Priceless
There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's *insert credit card here*
potmotr
May 23 2009, 11:45
QUOTE (wewantourdarbyback @ May 23 2009, 12:21)

Experiencing Monaco - Priceless
There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's *insert credit card here*

I just couldn't bring myself to wax more than a grand on a weekend away...
Ooops...
"....he has the ability to deliver an absolutely ragged-edge lap..."
Ragged indeed...
potmotr
May 23 2009, 12:13
QUOTE (Lada Lover @ May 22 2009, 22:27)

I really hope that Lewis does not excessively over-drive the car and risk an accident. Monaco and tracks like it are an accident waiting to happen.
Lada, your crystal ball has proved correct!
What a bummer.
dabrasco
May 23 2009, 12:15
i feared this lol...fk what a bummer
Hamilton sucks. He was assured of going in S2 with a half-decent lap; why pushing hard?
RoutariEnjinu
May 23 2009, 12:27
That's why he's great to watch.
potmotr
May 23 2009, 12:31
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 13:27)

That's why he's great to watch.
+ 1
A real shame he crashed, but that's the way it goes.
QUOTE (potmotr @ May 23 2009, 08:31)

+ 1
A real shame he crashed, but that's the way it goes.
True, but that's what differentiates him for the best driver (Schumacher). Schumi knew how and especially WHEN to push hard. Hamilton after 3 seasons, still doesn't.
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 13:27)

That's why he's great to watch.
Because he crashes?
I guess we all watch F1 for different reasons. When I was 8 I watched for the crashes too...
Madras
May 23 2009, 12:34
Apparently he pushed the KERS button while braking....
Tolyngee
May 23 2009, 12:35
I am enjoying Hammy's fall from champ to chump...
I thought him being banned was the right thing to do, but instead watching him being forced to fail so miserably...
Oh, boy oh boy, is this an absolute joy to watch...
QUOTE (Madras @ May 23 2009, 13:34)

Apparently he pushed the KERS button while braking....
Where did you hear that? I doubt the McLaren lie-factory, sorry, PR and sporting departments, would let that out of the bag.
;)
(Or was the wink to indicate that was tongue-in-cheek?)
potmotr
May 23 2009, 12:36
QUOTE (mkay @ May 23 2009, 13:33)

True, but that's what differentiates him for the best driver (Schumacher). Schumi knew how and especially WHEN to push hard. Hamilton after 3 seasons, still doesn't.
I don't agree at all. Schumacher made pressure mistakes until the end of his career.
QUOTE (Madras @ May 23 2009, 13:34)

Apparently he pushed the KERS button while braking....

Where did you hear that? I doubt the McLaren lie-factory, sorry, PR and sporting departments, would let that out of the bag.
Pegaso
May 23 2009, 12:40
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 14:36)

No you ****ing idiot, look at the post it was in response to. He's great to watch because he was pushing hard, even when he didn't really need to.
That's why he's great to watch. You never know what will happen.
Look, Piquet is great to watch too!
RoutariEnjinu
May 23 2009, 12:41
@Pegaso
No, Piquet does need to push.
It seems some folk in this thread have something in common as regards reading comprehension, or integrity and honest.
QUOTE (Tolyngee @ May 23 2009, 08:35)

I am enjoying Hammy's fall from champ to chump...
I thought him being banned was the right thing to do, but instead watching him being forced to fail so miserably...
Oh, boy oh boy, is this an absolute joy to watch...
He's got something you don't have; a WDC title.
Pegaso
May 23 2009, 12:45
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 23 2009, 14:41)

@Pegaso
No, Piquet does need to push.
It seems some folk in this thread have something in common as regards reading comprehension, or integrity and honest.
Ok, you think that drivers behaving stupidly are great to watch, now I understand.
RoutariEnjinu
May 23 2009, 12:48
QUOTE (Pegaso @ May 23 2009, 13:45)

Ok, you think that drivers behaving stupidly are great to watch, now I understand.
Try again.
potmotr
May 23 2009, 12:53
Lewis just said to the BBC: "Don't know what I was thinking, I made a mistake. It's been going well all weekend. I apologise to the team for wasting their time."
I think Lewis is in for a rather long afternoon tomorrow.
He's a great overtaker but there's precious little he'll be able to do at Monaco.
He said mistakes like this are bound to happen, but his chances of a win are over.
QUOTE (Madras @ May 23 2009, 14:34)

Apparently he pushed the KERS button while braking....
Or maybe a mysteric magnetic field appeared which tricked the electronics on the car to use KERS while Lewis was under braking...
alg7_munif
May 23 2009, 13:03
On the bright side, he saved a lot of soft tyres. If McLaren are clever, they should go with a very long 1st and 2nd stint on the soft tyres and later go with a very short third stint for the hard tyre. With some luck and safety car, podium is still possible.
ensign14
May 23 2009, 13:15
QUOTE (ensign14 @ May 27 2006, 17:49)

That's the only worrying thing about him. He seems to forget things like the rules at times. On sheer pace he is decimating a generally much more experienced field.
I posted this three years ago. You would have thought he would have developed a race brain by now especially as he has nearly lost two titles as a result. He had no need to push it in Q1 when he was pretty much guaranteed getting through. But there you go, he's a racer a la Gilles, and pushes 100% all the time. Should make the race interesting.
QUOTE (Madras @ May 23 2009, 12:34)

Apparently he pushed the KERS button while braking....
I didn’t even know Lewis Hamilton had KERS at the 2007 Brazilian GP!
potmotr
May 23 2009, 13:22
QUOTE (ensign14 @ May 23 2009, 14:15)

I posted this three years ago.
I only noticed that this thread dated back to 2003 the other day.
I had a read through the whole lot and there are *hindsight glasses on* some awesome quotes in there from Lewis, and a number of posters who've fallen in love with him, out of love, back in love and every shade in between.
QUOTE (ensign14 @ May 23 2009, 14:15)

I posted this three years ago. You would have thought he would have developed a race brain by now especially as he has nearly lost two titles as a result. He had no need to push it in Q1 when he was pretty much guaranteed getting through. But there you go, he's a racer a la Gilles, and pushes 100% all the time. Should make the race interesting.
Well remembered, and most prescient!
Today's error was puzzling though, but at least sets us up for a thrilling charge through the pack.
BMW_FAU
May 23 2009, 13:26
I prefer to watch a driver that pushes all the time than a driver that just does enough.
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