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Les
QUOTE (Jackmancer @ Dec 23 2009, 20:52) *
Yes he was brilliant in his debut Grand Prix but in that race Rosberg set a promise he never really forfilled.


I agree indeed that is the standout moment of him so far. The other moments that spring to mind are him sliding about in front of Raikonnen and Hamilton at Spa 08, Crashing at Monaco that year and cocking up a potential good result at Singapore exiting the pitlane this year. I would have gone for Heidfeld first before him. I haven't seen any reason to suggest that he can be a force in F1 and coming against Schumacher his career could be in tatters. But again I could be wrong, that's just my feeling.
Kelateboy
Nico is in for a tough year. MS is a 7 time WDC for a reason - he was fast. Let's see whether he still has that edge in a Merc.

Personally, I think Michael will have the edge over Nico both in qualifying and races.

-KB
Dolk
Everyone who seem to suggest being paired with Michael is going to be bad for Nico should ask Massa if it hurt him being paired with Michael. Personally i think this might turn out ace for Nico if grabs the oportunity.
Seanspeed
QUOTE (Clatter @ Dec 23 2009, 14:48) *
What do you define as the vast majority?

Of the races they bothed finished it's 4-3 to MS. I'd say that's pretty close in anyone's book.

Of races they both finished.

I think I've gone over this already. 7 races out of a full calendar hardly tells the whole story.
F1Champion
Nico has come on leaps and bounds last season and his speed in qualifying was very impressive. I think it will be close.
ThomFi
QUOTE (biffa @ Dec 24 2009, 02:54) *
Only in qualifying. Alonso lack consistency in the one lap system back then but he generally dominated Trulli when his car allowed him in races.


That's debatable. Actually, there are even people who think, that Trulli was the sligtly stronger driver, at least in the first half of the season.
Trust
QUOTE (________ @ Dec 23 2009, 17:17) *
that excuse is wearing thin , please bring something else on the table wave.gif

It's not excuse. It's reality. You'll see it next year when the time is right wave.gif .
FNG
The thing Nico will have the toughest with is not just MS's speed but his consistant fast speed. Rosberg is not consistant at all, MS is very very consistant.
Zdeus
QUOTE (athlon @ Dec 24 2009, 00:49) *
With a less than good car it's not too easy to win. smile.gif I remember of one mistake from him in Singapore, but we could see a mistake from Big Lewis as well. Nico is a great driver, Ron Dennis wanted to catch him several years ago. But in an underdog-car, he couldn't show his real performance for you or any other members on this forum. Jenson was racing for the 'great' 17th-18th places in 2007 and 2008. And why? Because Honda weren't able to give him a solid car. And a lot of people forgot Jenson and they were all surprised at the start of the season that 'who is this guy?'. Nico is the same.
Vettel was great in the STR only in wet first time. But don't forget that 2008 STR-car was even better than Red Bull-cars, and etc. And if he had a great car he could make some mistakes (Australia, Malaysia, Monaco, Singapore - are they the sign of a great driver? No, but despite this he was the no:1 at nearly every poll instead of Jenson.)
Actually, Nico did only one brilliant thing in this season, it was in the Q2 of the qualification in Singapore. But this and his consistency convinced me that he could be a champion. Yes, even alongside 'great Schumi' as well. Just watch and learn smile.gif


I admit I don't recall Rosberg's 1st race. When I said a great drive shines, I didn't imply winning off the bad - but flashes of doing brilliant things with a not so brilliant car. I dont recall such stuff , but it can be my memory.

The STR was a good car, but Vettel did wonders as compared to his team-mate - didn't he ? Wet weather driving is also a good indicator.

I think there isn't sufficient data on Rosberg being great - a very good driver , yes - great ? This season will reveal.
Aubwi
I don't have strong opinions about Rosberg, but I will say that I think he's actually in an EXCELLENT position. If he fails to beat Schumacher everyone says "oh well, it's Schumacher". If he actually beats Schumacher, what could possibly be better for his career?
Sausage
Yeah Rosberg can only win in this situation. I think he's very good though so it's hard to say how they they will match up.
ZenSpeed
QUOTE (Seanspeed @ Dec 23 2009, 01:25) *
Not really. We're talking about how Schumi will do against a teammate by comparing how he did to past teammates. Makes pretty good sense to me.

Really? and the spins of brundle should not count as a point for MS who actually finished the race ahead? a spin is a driver mistake, not a mechanical issue.
V8 Fireworks
QUOTE (Aubwi @ Dec 24 2009, 19:08) *
I don't have strong opinions about Rosberg, but I will say that I think he's actually in an EXCELLENT position. If he fails to beat Schumacher everyone says "oh well, it's Schumacher". If he actually beats Schumacher, what could possibly be better for his career?

Yes.

He hasn't shown any better than Barrichello, so it is unclear if Rosberg will do a Massa (4-5 times beating Schumi per season) or do a Barrichello (measly 1-2 times beating Schumi per season). smile.gif

If he will do a Rosberg (beating Schumi 16 times over a season) he will go into folklore as a highly regarded driver up.gif
fastdriver
I think this has 0% chance of happening, but I hope Rosberg finishes 3 places ahead of MS. (I will admit this is only because I am a bitter KR fan & I didn't like MS 'consultancy' role at SF)

But ya, on a more serious note, I personally don't think the question is if MS will be better than NR, for me the Q? is by how much will MS be better than NR...finish 1 pt, 4pts, 11pts ahead of him?
r4mses
QUOTE (Aubwi @ Dec 24 2009, 20:08) *
I don't have strong opinions about Rosberg, but I will say that I think he's actually in an EXCELLENT position. If he fails to beat Schumacher everyone says "oh well, it's Schumacher". If he actually beats Schumacher, what could possibly be better for his career?


Well, imo it's the other way round. Just little adjustments to what you write:
If he fails to beat Schumacher everyone says "he lost to a 41 year old guy". If he actually beats Schumacher, "he won agains a 41 year old Schumacher who past his peak 3 years ago" - what could possibly be worse for his career?

I think only time will tell ;)
ZenSpeed
Amazing.....Nico sucks, he can't setup the car, he is not fast, not strong mentally...you brilliant minds have it all figured out. Why didn;t anyone alert that idiot of Ross brawn that he was hiring such a lousy driver???? rolleyes.gif
DaleCooper
QUOTE (ZenSpeed @ Dec 25 2009, 09:20) *
Amazing.....Nico sucks, he can't setup the car, he is not fast, not strong mentally...you brilliant minds have it all figured out. Why didn;t anyone alert that idiot of Ross brawn that he was hiring such a lousy driver???? rolleyes.gif


The armchair experts at their best! stoned.gif

Cooper
norti
I am pretty sure Nico will suprise quite a few people here as I rate him a better driver than Massa or Button. In addition Schumi will need more time to adept than Nico.
Sammyosammy
Well, they allready started it:

http://www.ts.fi/f1/sahkeet/97980.html

Turun Sanomat 21.12.2009;

RB has moved Jock Clear as Nico´s race engineer which means that their #1 race engineer Andrew Shoclin will take place as Schumey´s race engineer.

Buahahaaaa!! Well done Mr. Brawn..
timba
QUOTE (Sammyosammy @ Dec 25 2009, 12:25) *
Well, they allready started it:

http://www.ts.fi/f1/sahkeet/97980.html

Turun Sanomat 21.12.2009;

RB has moved Jock Clear as Nico´s race engineer which means that their #1 race engineer Andrew Shoclin will take place as Schumey´s race engineer.

Buahahaaaa!! Well done Mr. Brawn..


Shov isn't moving across to Woking with Jense? confused.gif
Jan.W
QUOTE (Sammyosammy @ Dec 25 2009, 13:25) *
Well, they allready started it:

http://www.ts.fi/f1/sahkeet/97980.html

Turun Sanomat 21.12.2009;

RB has moved Jock Clear as Nico´s race engineer which means that their #1 race engineer Andrew Shoclin will take place as Schumey´s race engineer.

Buahahaaaa!! Well done Mr. Brawn..


And that does means ?

In 2007-2008-2009, Raikkonen took the whole schumi's staff, and got beaten by Massa. Schumi's lapdog. lol.gif
Sammyosammy
QUOTE (Jan.W @ Dec 25 2009, 13:51) *
And that does means ?

In 2007-2008-2009, Raikkonen took the whole schumi's staff, and got beaten by Massa. Schumi's lapdog. lol.gif


Oh, it was MASSA winning WDC 2007? Okay..

Didn´t say it effects in any way but seems to me that RB & MS are trying to build it again..?
Sammyosammy
QUOTE (timba @ Dec 25 2009, 13:51) *
Shov isn't moving across to Woking with Jense? confused.gif


That´s what stand in TS..
johnmhinds
QUOTE (Jan.W @ Dec 25 2009, 12:51) *
And that does means ?

In 2007-2008-2009, Raikkonen took the whole schumi's staff, and got beaten by Massa. Schumi's lapdog. lol.gif


Because we all know it was Massa who won the WDC in 2007....
athlon
QUOTE (timba @ Dec 25 2009, 13:51) *
Shov isn't moving across to Woking with Jense? confused.gif


No, why should he do that? He is in contact with the team and not with Jenson.
Spa95
QUOTE (Sammyosammy @ Dec 25 2009, 13:25) *
Well, they allready started it:

http://www.ts.fi/f1/sahkeet/97980.html

Turun Sanomat 21.12.2009;

RB has moved Jock Clear as Nico´s race engineer which means that their #1 race engineer Andrew Shoclin will take place as Schumey´s race engineer.

Buahahaaaa!! Well done Mr. Brawn..

Shovelin is Brawns Nr. 1 race engineer? Based on what? Just because Button won the championship with him?

Fact: Rosberg replaced Barrichello, so he gets his team
Schumacher is in for Button, so gets Buttons team

Simples.
athlon
QUOTE (Sammyosammy @ Dec 25 2009, 13:25) *
Well, they allready started it:

http://www.ts.fi/f1/sahkeet/97980.html

Turun Sanomat 21.12.2009;

RB has moved Jock Clear as Nico´s race engineer which means that their #1 race engineer Andrew Shoclin will take place as Schumey´s race engineer.

Buahahaaaa!! Well done Mr. Brawn..


Could anyone imagine Jock Clear as Schumacher's race engineer after 1997 Jerez? biggrin.gif
athlon
QUOTE (Spa95 @ Dec 25 2009, 14:04) *
Shovelin is Brawns Nr. 1 race engineer? Based on what? Just because Button won the championship with him?

Fact: Rosberg replaced Barrichello, so he gets his team
Schumacher is in for Button, so gets Buttons team

Simples.


Nr. 1 race engineer role is not exist. There are senior race engineers and assistant race engineers. I don't think that Andy Shovlin would be the No:1 race engineer of the team.
But I've heard some rumours that Chris Dyer, Michael's former race engineer could join to the Mercedes, but as far as I know, he is higher up at Ferrari, so why would he leave? It's very logical that Shovlin, and the former Button-team will get Schumacher, but it was Ross' decision, I think.
Sammyosammy
QUOTE (Spa95 @ Dec 25 2009, 14:04) *
Shovelin is Brawns Nr. 1 race engineer? Based on what? Just because Button won the championship with him?

Fact: Rosberg replaced Barrichello, so he gets his team
Schumacher is in for Button, so gets Buttons team

Simples.


Just told Ya what there stood in a finnish newspaper that provides most reliable F1-news. To me it´s all the same if he is #1 or #6.. wave.gif
GerardF1
QUOTE (potmotr @ Dec 23 2009, 14:10) *
He's a seven time World Champion with 91 Grands Prix victories.

He's the most succesful man ever to sit in a Formula One car.

Rosberg is a guy who has shown flashes of speed, crashed plenty and generally shown himself to be a competent F1 driver, but not the next Vettel.

Schumacher will become defacto number one, even if they're equal.

It's a shit deal for Nico, but who ever said F1 was nice?


So you admit that he will get preferential treatment - as he always has. That wouldn't in any way have assisted him in getting any of those titles or wins.

There is no way that Nico would have moved to a team without discussions, and commitments, about equal treatment. There is no way that MS would have agreed to a comeback without assurances that he wouldn't have to fight the other driver. Either way one of them has been lied to - and there is no way Ross lied to MS.

So no matter what happens Nico is screwed. If he does well all the info goes over to MS - if he isn't he won't get any info from that side of the garage to assist him.

With any luck the car is midpack and the best laid plans of MS & RB go out the window when they need all hands to actually work the car forward. That the only scenerio where Nico has a chance.
ZZMS
QUOTE (GerardF1 @ Dec 25 2009, 19:16) *
So you admit that he will get preferential treatment - as he always has. That wouldn't in any way have assisted him in getting any of those titles or wins.

There is no way that Nico would have moved to a team without discussions, and commitments, about equal treatment. There is no way that MS would have agreed to a comeback without assurances that he wouldn't have to fight the other driver. Either way one of them has been lied to - and there is no way Ross lied to MS.

So no matter what happens Nico is screwed. If he does well all the info goes over to MS - if he isn't he won't get any info from that side of the garage to assist him.

With any luck the car is midpack and the best laid plans of MS & RB go out the window when they need all hands to actually work the car forward. That the only scenerio where Nico has a chance.


what a sad and disguisted case

I hope MS inflicts you a lot of pain next season
LoudHoward
As a Red Bull fan I feel the last 12 months have given me a new perspective on the whole team orders drama, Webber and Vettel were pretty close teammates over the season and mid-season it was like "who do RBR throw their support behind?!?", but they were hardly ever together on the track and Webber was happy enough to go with higher fuel loads in Qual. We'll see how car upgrades go, but Brawn seemed to be able to get pairs of new parts out no problem last season so I'm not really sure that'll be a big issue. Low fuel qually takes away another team advantage thing. If things come down to 1-2 instances of Nico giving Schumi some help over the season, then they're close enough to be even which is fine enough for Nico as far as I'm concerned. The arguement is a bit redundant anyways, it's all down to circumstances, people getting all red faced screaming "TEAM ORDERS!" as though it's some sort of evil that makes Michael look bad are a bit deranged, especially before the year even starts!
Trust
Schumi's getting preffered treatment. How sweet love.gif .
Can't wait to see it on track smile.gif .
tormave
I don't think things will be that easy for Schumacher. When things didn't go his way in Ferrari they pounded away in Fiorano from dawn until sunset to get the car working perfectly. With the very limited testing there will be races next year where only one or the other Merc driver can get the car (read: tyres) working and the other can't. With no refuelling how the car works during different stages of the race will be total guesswork. When Schumi was racing and the car was terrible he could still expect to qualify 4th, where now with the cars so evenly matched that can mean 14th or worse.
cheapracer
It may take a couple of races as he resettles back in but MS will get on top of Rosberg and then all the "preferential treatment" crap will start up.

I have watched hours of incar from 2008 of all the drivers and Rosberg just isn't there in fact besides Hamilton and Massa and depending on the car, this isn't a bad year at all for MS to come back.

If Rosberg is smart he will make this his learning year and profit his future from it.
cheapracer
QUOTE (GerardF1 @ Dec 26 2009, 11:16) *
So you admit that he will get preferential treatment - as he always has. That wouldn't in any way have assisted him in getting any of those titles or wins.


You should go hang around/work for race teams - preferential treatment is earned not given. Did you ever notice the admiration from MS's team/pitcrew over the years or would facts such as that ruin your story?

It is no secret that the Ferrari F1 team was built around MS from 1996, did you ever stop to consider why? As was Lotus for Clark, McLaren for Fittipaldi, Tyrell for Stewart.... etc, etc. It's not a new concept starting with Auto Union and Mercedes in the 30's in fact.
DOF_power
QUOTE (cheapracer @ Dec 26 2009, 10:42) *
You should go hang around/work for race teams - preferential treatment is earned not given. Did you ever notice the admiration from MS's team/pitcrew over the years or would facts such as that ruin your story?

It is no secret that the Ferrari F1 team was built around MS from 1996, did you ever stop to consider why? As was Lotus for Clark, McLaren for Fittipaldi, Tyrell for Stewart.... etc, etc. It's not a new concept starting with Auto Union and Mercedes in the 30's in fact.




I think it started with Boillot, Henry,Zuccarelli at Peugeot before WWI.

QUOTE
[Georges Boillot:] "The racing cars were produced by a special staff, of which Ernest Henry, my late friend Zuccarelli, my companion driver Goux, and myself are the leading members. In Zuccarelli's sad and untimely death we not only lost a close friend, but an engineer of considerable ability. There is only one sad feature about my victory in the Grand Prix (Amiens) - it is that Zuccarelli is not here to share in the honor with us. Zuccarelli and I supplied the main idea for the car. Henry was responsible for the drawings, and it is to him that we owe the beautiful lines of the cars."


http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/peug1914.htm


This Schumacher-Brawn-Byrne and Co. type of relation existed since the very beginning of Grand Prix racing
But some just don't understand that.
Group B
QUOTE (GerardF1 @ Dec 26 2009, 03:16) *
So you admit that he will get preferential treatment - as he always has. That wouldn't in any way have assisted him in getting any of those titles or wins.

rolleyes.gif
Still struggling with the old chicken and egg problem there Gerard? You're very fond of peddling the line about MS always having received preferential treatment, but have never got around to explaining why such an average, overrated driver would be able to walk into F1 and spend the next 15 years demanding, and getting, such unprecedented privileges confused.gif
Group B
QUOTE (cheapracer @ Dec 26 2009, 08:42) *
You should go hang around/work for race teams - preferential treatment is earned not given. Did you ever notice the admiration from MS's team/pitcrew over the years or would facts such as that ruin your story?

It is no secret that the Ferrari F1 team was built around MS from 1996, did you ever stop to consider why? As was Lotus for Clark, McLaren for Fittipaldi, Tyrell for Stewart.... etc, etc. It's not a new concept starting with Auto Union and Mercedes in the 30's in fact.

up.gif
Don't hold your breath. Gerard, like Fortymark and others before him, is very good at repeating the accusation but an abject failure at justifying/explaining it.
William Hunt
QUOTE (P123 @ Dec 23 2009, 02:54) *
Rosberg was sometimes beaten by Nakajima so I don't think he will trouble Schumacher.


It always surprises me how people are underestimating Nakajima and overrating Kobayashi at the same time (they are very closely matched in terms of speed & driver talent). Nakajima is a very, very fast driver.
The Ragged Edge
QUOTE (William Hunt @ Dec 26 2009, 11:34) *
It always surprises me how people are underestimating Nakajima and overrating Kobayashi at the same time (they are very closely matched in terms of speed & driver talent). Nakajima is a very, very fast driver.


confused.gif Nakajima very very fast? Erratic, inconsistent and out of his depth. Just how many points did Nakajima score in 2009 compared to Rosberg, who is no superstar? Even SFW doubted Rosbergs abilities.
race addicted
QUOTE (William Hunt @ Dec 26 2009, 13:34) *
It always surprises me how people are underestimating Nakajima and overrating Kobayashi at the same time (they are very closely matched in terms of speed & driver talent). Nakajima is a very, very fast driver.


"Very, very" - ??? He was around four tenths off Rosberg on average, and that's too much. Nakajima was ok or probably made a slightly better impression than just "ok" in 2008, but instead of improving, he actually took a step backwards for 2009.

Kobayashi made us all sit up right away.

On Schumacher v Rosberg, I seriously doubt Schumacher has lost his ability being away for three years. He might be a bit rusty at first, but racing is all he's ever done, so it'll come back after just a handful of laps. Rosberg is up against his toughest team-mate so far - and very likely the toughest he'll ever be up against - and I believe Schumacher will face a team-mate of comparable ability to what he's had in Massa and Barrichello.
Big Block 8
QUOTE (race addicted @ Dec 26 2009, 12:04) *
"Very, very" - ??? He was around four tenths off Rosberg on average, and that's too much. Nakajima was ok or probably made a slightly better impression than just "ok" in 2008, but instead of improving, he actually took a step backwards for 2009.

Kobayashi made us all sit up right away.

On Schumacher v Rosberg, I seriously doubt Schumacher has lost his ability being away for three years. He might be a bit rusty at first, but racing is all he's ever done, so it'll come back after just a handful of laps. Rosberg is up against his toughest team-mate so far - and very likely the toughest he'll ever be up against - and I believe Schumacher will face a team-mate of comparable ability to what he's had in Massa and Barrichello.


I'm thinking about the same right now, but hopefully I'm wrong and Rosberg and Schumacher will be fighting for the same positions - and after a couple of first corner crashes we'd have a full blown internal team feud for our enjoyment. smile.gif
WebBerK
QUOTE (GerardF1 @ Dec 26 2009, 01:16) *
There is no way that Nico would have moved to a team without discussions, and commitments, about equal treatment. There is no way that MS would have agreed to a comeback without assurances that he wouldn't have to fight the other driver. Either way one of them has been lied to - and there is no way Ross lied to MS.

So no matter what happens Nico is screwed. If he does well all the info goes over to MS - if he isn't he won't get any info from that side of the garage to assist him.

With any luck the car is midpack and the best laid plans of MS & RB go out the window when they need all hands to actually work the car forward. That the only scenerio where Nico has a chance.

Anyway, when Nicochello was hired, he knew that there was a fat chance to be #2, the facto, bcs Jenson was supposed to be the #1 driver.
The problem is Jenson went to McLaren and the situation got worse bcs Schumy came in.
As we withnessed this year, Nico chance is Schumy taking some time to get acquainted to F1 again and open a point gap to MS.
In this situation, Ross will treat Nico well, as he did to Rubens after the second half of the season.

Brawn team orders are hand to prove.
There is always a hidden agenda on tire strategy management [stints and tire pressures].
race addicted
I refuse to believe Mercedes will have a no.1 driver from the off (Schumacher). The engineers will probably lean more on Schumacher when it comes to technical feedback, and if - perhaps by chance even - the car develops to Schumacher's liking, well then he's only done the right thing.
On the other hand, I don't think Rosberg (and certainly not Keke!!!!) will stay quiet about things if he feels he's being screwed.
B747
QUOTE (ZZMS @ Dec 25 2009, 23:58) *
what a sad and disguisted case

I hope MS inflicts you a lot of pain next season


roflmao.gif
MikeTekRacing
nobody will get screwed...
there is no#1 driver policy in any equal talent drivered team. if one of the drivers proves his worth, there is a #1, and a #2

please see hamilton vs alonso, hamilton proved he deserved equal status and then the rest is history
also please see kimi vs felipe...kimi came and everybody expected him to drive circles around felipe...as they were kind of equally matched there was no #2 driver until the other one was out of the championship.
the same will be with ms and nico. obviously ms comes as a 7times wdc, but he will have to prove it by his speed. no team will give him full support unless his fastest from the word "go".
nico has nothing to worry about if he's got the pace. he has to work hard though, michael will be back dedicated 100% and that is something hard to fight against.
Tufty
QUOTE (MikeTekRacing @ Dec 26 2009, 20:10) *
nobody will get screwed...
there is no#1 driver policy in any equal talent drivered team. if one of the drivers proves his worth, there is a #1, and a #2

please see hamilton vs alonso, hamilton proved he deserved equal status and then the rest is history
also please see kimi vs felipe...kimi came and everybody expected him to drive circles around felipe...as they were kind of equally matched there was no #2 driver until the other one was out of the championship.
the same will be with ms and nico. obviously ms comes as a 7times wdc, but he will have to prove it by his speed. no team will give him full support unless his fastest from the word "go".
nico has nothing to worry about if he's got the pace. he has to work hard though, michael will be back dedicated 100% and that is something hard to fight against.

Unfortunately I doubt that to a degree with Brawn/MSC frown.gif
Menace
QUOTE (MikeTekRacing @ Dec 26 2009, 12:10) *
obviously ms comes as a 7times wdc, but he will have to prove it by his speed. no team will give him full support unless his fastest from the word "go".
nico has nothing to worry about if he's got the pace. he has to work hard though, michael will be back dedicated 100% and that is something hard to fight against.


Agreed. I do however think that Brawn will pretty soon find out that Nico really isn't anything special, unlike Schumacher.

I hope Im wrong and Nico proves to be a real challenge, but I see him much more in the mold of Massa pre-2006/2007. Fast but inconsistent and quite erratic at times.

Schumacher should have no problem establishing his dominance and lead driver role over Nico. IMO.
One
Now Schumacher has taken his No.3 from Rosberg. It is just a number, but the game is started already: The team is backing Michael perhaps more than Nico, and will become more obvious if Michael were to proceed with overwhelming performance.


I am staring IF posting now as the races are on. I could be a supporter of any sides. So I take for the moment Nico's side.


But if Schumacher fail to perform at the very first race? Then the second and the third? Everyone knows that Michael is not extremely good performing under pressure. He is older at the age of 41, and this can be a permanent problem of Schumacher.

Nico should be boiling hot right now. If he is smiling and saying it's only number and indeed believeing the same, then I do not know if I continue my position, but if in case Nico is gone mad with all the treats and decided to beat Schumacher in any ways possible, then I am backing Nico.
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