Good points Gemini about Vitaly but it's been discussed to death already in here, hasn't it? If he isn't good enough yet to drive for a team as competitive as Renault but they think he could be ready one day, try to loan him to Lotus where he can learn the ropes without much pressure and get someone alongside Kubica who can help the team move forward with his results and technical feedback. And before someone comes up with the argument that Vitaly is helping the team with his sponsors - I'm the one who thinks that relying on a driver's sponsors as much as Renault is standing still and not healthy at all for a team which aims to fight at the very top.





We need to get some of these guys and girls from there post here. This place has been so dominated by the Kubica fans and it's always nice to have some kind of an equilibrium. So far we've only had Captain Tightpants from the Antipodes supporting Petrov all the way nicely but some additional forces to balance things out a little bit here would be more than welcome!

Found this poll on Petrov's official blog:


http://vitalypetrov.ru/forum/index.php?sho...ic=34&st=40

The best what?

I don't think Russians travel well on the internet (as opposed to Poles) - they tend to stick to websites with *.ru suffix. I wonder why that is?

I don't think Russians travel well on the internet (as opposed to Poles) - they tend to stick to websites with *.ru suffix. I wonder why that is?

The best what?

Oh, and this quote sums it up perfectly:



There is a clear difference between having an opinion and being delusional.

Tell this to Robert fanboys ;)

best Russian F1 driver.
And Robert is best Polish F1 driver.
That is for sure

@Muppetmad, Gezz...

What? You are offended that not everyone thinks Kubica is the best?

Most of those who voted on Vitaly obviously aren't F1 experts, the rest of them simply wanted to support their fellow countryman....

Nice... only that sign... it doesn't suit F1. Its more like Hanna Montana, don't you think?

Have you done any special preparation for this race?
After Korea I went straight to Enstone to see the engineers and to talk about Brazil. The team have lots of data from last year, which is useful for learning the track because you can see the gears, the braking, the line, and you can start to understand the lap more. I also went back in the simulator to help me learn the Interlagos circuit. It only takes an hour to know the track pretty well and to have the confidence to start pushing.

Reminds me of a team radio quote from Canada 08' by BMW - "Ok Robert, big push now!(...) 10 laps of big push!" ;)

Ps. I wonder what role in this years' championship will Robert play. If we could be competitive in Brazil we could really have influence on the final results. I have a feeling that someone would hate Robert after that just like they did with Glock in 2008

You don't remember why Vettel overtook Lewis and almost trashed his championship? I'll remind you . It was just because of Robert. Everybody were talking about Glock cuz he lost his position to Lewis. If he didn't then I think Robert would be a scapegoat IMO(he was lapped and overtook Hamilton).

Planet F1 were calling for a few races ban for RK for that

[snipped]RK[/snipped] He will have fresh engine and good F-duck. Another podium possible?

If true, that was very stupid. You have every right to unlap yourself if you can do so, and frankly Robert overtaking Hamilton just showed how slow the McLaren was and how inept at overtaking Vettel was (and potentially still is). The fact is, Robert was fighting for 3rd place in the championship and a few slow moving cars up ahead could have gotten him the extra point he needed. Staying behind Hamilton would have compromised that - whether he's a title contender or not is out of the question.

Planet F1 have changed their approach to Robert about 180 degree ;) . They used to trash him every time they could. That was funny sometimes ...

So, what is the "worst" thing KUB can do? Besides kamikaze attack, off course, but that is more likely something Petrov could accomplish...
KUB could overtake BUT on last few laps and taking away from him mathematical chances to defend WDC? Or he could finish just behind ALO making everybody behind a bit itchy?
Measuring by the level of his cautiousness and pessimism in predictions, he should finish quite strong here. He will have fresh engine and good F-duck. Another podium possible?

Maybe a wasn't clear enough but I'm really looking forward for a good performance from Robert and this would inevitably make an influence on championship

Hmm, interesting: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/...nault-f1-story/

Interesting indeed, Renault F1 rebranded as "Team Lotus"?

Kings, Sultans...

Who next? Wizards, hobbits and elfs?... opps, sorry... Elf is already there ;-)

Kings, Sultans...

Who next? Wizards, hobbits and elfs?... opps, sorry... Elf is already there ;-)

It all sounds very complicated and hypothetical. One question should be answered: why on earth would Renault sell its engines to Fernandes if their team (RF1) is fighting with the same Fernandes for rights over Lotus brand?

It all sounds very complicated and hypothetical. One question should be answered: why on earth would Renault sell its engines to Fernandes if their team (RF1) is fighting with the same Fernandes for rights over Lotus brand?

Let us not forget that Renault F1 engine division in Viry is nowadays separate from Renault F1 Team in Enstone. I think Renault the car company (controlling F1 engine maker) would rather supply Red Bull, Renault the F1 team, and Team Lotus, than Red Bull, Lotus, and 1Malaysia/Air Asia.

If they (Renault Co.) loaned money to GenII it's not that simple. The teams situation is pretty complicated as Joe Saward indicates recently.

Yes, maby they would, but they haven't anything to say in this case since it's not their team

I think it's still a matter of will. In long term Renault is surely looking for a way out of F1 but do you really think they are going to make it before the currnet CA expire? It's obvious that Renault choose a smart way of getting out, cutting fundings and yet still having a "Renault F1" on the grid but I still think they would prefer to supply RB, Lotus and Renault.

Hmm, interesting: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/...nault-f1-story/

At the end of the day, the facilities, the staff etc, they don't change. If Renault is 100% owned by Renault or 25% or even 1%, these are just shares on a piece of paper, nothing in the real world changes, it's still the same outfit. So to me, Renault is still 100% 'Renault'.

Hell freezed over. I agree with FIGJAM ....

So, Brazlian GP starts from today. Pretty quiet here.

Only 6:35 am in San Paulo now :-)