Admit it.

You are jelous.

The question is how much is this "a bit more grip" for Robert

I suppose it's quite a lot. If it was only a bit more, he would say that the upgrades are not working as well as they expected them to do.

Not really, Renault have already proved everything they have needed to. This whole "wow small team doing so well Kubica is awesome" mentality is a joke, though.

Anybody noticed new sticker, possibly new sponsor, near the old positioning of the exhaust?

Nice view on FW:
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9306/eyetvsnapshot1.jpg

Did you ever receive an invitation so you need to rejected loudly in the Renault thread?


edit:typo

Why so? Renault is an example of "from zero to hero". There were gossips that they wouldn't make a grid this year and there they are. Competetive with certain future.

THIS is old FW.

@TURU
Yeah I know that this is old front wing, I wrote nothing that this is new wing FW=front wing

Im afraid you suffer from hindsight bias mate.

Please do some research and read opinions and predictions made by people from this board before season 2010 regarding Renault and Kubica's choice. Vast majority said renault will struggle even more without Symonds and Briatore, some people said they will be last of all established teams and so on. I doubt you can find forumer who correctly predicted Renault position. Most optimistic guys were talking about fighting for points on some occasions. I havent seen you among them but feel free to prove me wrong.

Its easy to see their heredity now but every month since 2007 they were farer form the sharp end of the grid and Crashgate looked like the end for them.

After the aero cut front wing has to do the work previously done by all those funy earo bits attched to the body work, but it's good to see Renault seem to know what they're doing in that regard.

any nice shots of the rear?

I remember pretty much people talking that Kubica made the bad choice, that he should stay at Sauber, because they will be much more competetive due to BMW that started the 2010 development early

I have just noticed that Petrov runs with old FW. I wonder if it turned out that the thing does not work or it is just 2nd driver treatment in Renault.

Just some comparision work in progress.

First big picture
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4571/59006923.jpg

I was one of those who were optimistic about this season. All that people who said that Renault is dead were really 'stupid' because they forgot that Renault's failures between 2007 and 2009 were caused by many factors that are now gone. (like the cut budget, obsolete wind tunnel, under-equipped CFD...)
And he R30 was FAST in the winter testing ! as fast as the Mercedes and even faster between Valecia and Jerez.
Unfortunately, nowadays, many so called 'observers' have a simplistic and superficial way to 'analyse'...

Renault isn't a surprise.

You were right. Thanks to kwanchepan we can see it's Helvetica.

Even Ferrari boss siad once that he's impressed by what Renault did this season. You are just biased.

It wasn't really a question. You can call it anything you like but a car presented at the first race of the season is not "an update". This is some weird discussion.

Here I am.

Yeah, me too. Many people here belived in Renault.

Wow!

says; "....in fact, that Poland could take the seat that is Michael Schumacher. "

That would have to be a very large seat.

The kind of shit that gets published...

Glad to see that most posters here just ignore this crap.

After FP2 Kubica said that the car "has more grip", but there is still room for improvement and they will try to make the package work even better overnight. But still he believes they are fighting with Mercedes for line 4 on the grid. Tires seem to be working much better here than in Canada, so rears' degradation should not be a big concern.

I've just read his, and Allan Permane comments after FP1 and 2 on the official F1 website and must say I'm bit confused about what you say. So we close the gap or not?

@ScarbsF1
Renault have got their exhaust driven diffuser ready, the grey heatshielding hides a flattened exhaust pipe and the vane directs the flow

I don't think so.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id...89&PO=48689

New FW

“We feel a bit more grip, especially on full throttle – although normally on full throttle you are not limited by the grip.

don't understand

Well it sounds he means coming out of corners...

ie, coming out of corners, the amount of throttle input is dictated by grip, and when you are full throttle you can assume you are no longer limited by grip... if that makes sense?

The higher revs the more efficient diffusor and more grip

I think that's why Red Bull are that good in high speed corners, since they have more down force from EDD.

Yes, but in that case he should have said although normally on full throttle you are limited by the grip.

ok thx

interesting new vanes... and original :

Would be great to have this photo in hi-res:


Ok we have better res but still not enough:

Nice comparison:
Old vs. new exhaust:


And Front wings:

Renault's fresh faces breathe life into tainted team
The new principal Eric Boullier and outstanding Robert Kubica form the bedrock for resurgence after 'crashgate'

Article is about renewed Renault F1 team. Niec read. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/2...-one-resurgence

And there is a quote:

Looks like it doesn't really have anything to do with break cooling.
By the way, it was a great sponsorship deal for TOTAL seeing how much publicity Renault's front wings get

R30's innards:

Don't know how well it will work, but it looks superb
New wing at almost every weekend!

That wing really looks crazy complicated amazing. Fingers crossed that they will pass mercedes.

BBC says that Robert is hoping for top 5 in qualifying and Permane a top 4.

I think renault is almost the most interesting team this year, their solutions look spectacular and they really seem to have momentum. I think other teams for sure will go shopping there for engineers. Atleast Mercedes Gp should.

Awesome lap in 3rd practice from Robert
Just behind Alonso, AHEAD of everyone else
OK it's NOT Qualifying but it certainly looks a good set-up he has found

That's what I am talking about!

Indeed, great stuff. Let's hope it wasn't a glory run... but I doubt it was, Robert doesn't do glory runs.

Robert 'Poker Face' Kubica 4th row?

Fantastic from Robert,
Like Monaco his commitment is breathtaking on this track.
Hats off to EVERYONE at Enstone, brilliant package they have put together for Valencia.
Just once, a little bit of luck with traffic in qualifying, and the pole position may just go to Robert Kubica.

He has to be hell of a poker player