Lets look at their average points per race eliminating races not finished due to mechanical failure. Then you'll get the real picture.

Lets look at their average points per race eliminating races not finished due to mechanical failure. Then you'll get the real picture.

Not sure the website is at the top of their priorities though. Especially as they don't appear to have a big sponsor to please.

On yours yes, but how do you knew JV isn't on Boullier's list?

It is understood that Sato – due to turn 33 later this month – is on a five-strong shortlist that has been compiled by new Renault F1 team principal Eric Boullier, alongside experienced BMW refugee Nick Heidfeld, Romain Grosjean, Jérôme d'Ambrosio and Ho-Pin Tung.

This is Boullier's shortlist.

1. Nick Heidfeld
2. Takuma Sato
3. Jerome d'Ambrosio
4. Ho-Ping Tung
5. Romain Grosjean

In that order.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/155909/1/sato...in_f1_2010.html


Those are the 5 people on the list and Villeneuve isn't one of those 5 people. My list below have the same names.

Well in todays MSA the say that Heidfeld is out of Renaults shortlist as well as Saubers. They figure Villeneuve or Petrov as candidates at Renault, at Sauber they declare the announcment of PdlR as just a matter of time.

Well in todays MSA the say that Heidfeld is out of Renaults shortlist as well as Saubers. They figure Villeneuve or Petrov as candidates at Renault, at Sauber they declare the announcment of PdlR as just a matter of time.

Sorry, forgive me for asking, but what is MSA?

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/155909/1/sato...in_f1_2010.html

Those are the 5 people on the list and Villeneuve isn't one of those 5 people. My list below have the same names.

It is understood

CMJ All Renault enthusiasts consider as a French team then this might be the best place to expect to see a Formula One driver of French. So are we can expect a French driver at Renault in 2010, a Romain Grosjean or Franck Montagny?

EB: "There have been discussing with Franck, Romain, indeed some are still ongoing I will not hide. I'm French, Renault is French, so there would be a natural inclination to have a French driver. J 'd like well to have one, but this is not a priority: I focus on the interests of the team, and with no obligation vis-à-vis our partners, or Renault, it will be best strategic choice for the team. If it is French, so much the better ... "

CMJ: It may be French, but French, we think of the Belgian Bertrand Baguette, who won the World Series by Renault 3.5. There are also pilot experience, now on the floor, as Nick Heidfeld for example.

EB: "All the drivers you quote me the names of drivers with whom we discuss every day. It's really a complicated matrix to perform, putting aside the emotional point of view because it is important to find someone a performance as possible, but also in time: the choice of the driver is really crucial. "

Well in todays MSA the say that Heidfeld is out of Renaults shortlist as well as Saubers. They figure Villeneuve or Petrov as candidates at Renault, at Sauber they declare the announcment of PdlR as just a matter of time.

Do you have a link to this article i cant seem to find it on the MSA website: http://www.motorsport-aktuell.com/
Thanks.

It's on the printed version only.

It's simple social engineering, moreover it comes from crash.net - not the best source to rely on.

Instead of beliving unreliable crash.net I prefer to quote reliable sources, especially when there's Q&A.

Look at this, it's part of interview with Eric Boullier, made the day before yesterday:



It seems to me that at your list at least two names are missing. So again, how could you possibly knew what's on Boullier's list?

So, when you figured sth out, don't make it look like it is beyond any doubt. Okay? Unless you have some inside top secret info


edit:
I forgot post source to this interview: here it is

There is no proof that crash is unreliable, I find it to be quite useful but that article on crash I posted earlier today I only found today, and I posted the list a few days ago.

Boullier mentioned a five man short list and I knew four of the names on it so I went to find out who the fifth person was. I found that it was Sato and put him in the list in 2nd behind Heidfeld because they are the favourites. My list was right but it is all irrelevent now because it is between the top two in that list, Heidfeld and Sato.

Of course, people will find a way to claim that i'm bullshiting again but I know i'm right. Don't bother replying because I won't respond to any replies.

Of course, people will find a way to claim that i'm bullshiting again but I know i'm right. Don't bother replying because I won't respond to any replies.

But isn't that exactly the point? Villeneuve didn't go to Ferrari or stay at Williams or accept any decent offer he got during his BAR days.

He decided to accept a shit load of money and take up the challenge of building his own team. And he failed at that, proving he wasn't worth that much money and wasn't that good as a team leader. Which is why Richards canned him.

Yeah, you're right. Jacques should have accepted the Renault drive offered for considerably more money rather than accepting to remain with BAR. Let's not let facts get in the way.

Anyways and news to report from MSA?

IS there any news on 2010 Renualt CAR???

If there was, don't you think it would have been posted by now?

Don't really understand what your point is.

I am saying that Villeneuve was a good driver but he got seduced by the lure of money (far more than he should realistically have gotten as a single champion) and the opportunity of building his own team like Schumacher did at Ferrari.

The failure of BAR proved he wasn't another Schumacher and thus was not worth that kind of money.

Had he remained at Williams or taken up other offers at established teams, he might have had more success and his reputation wouldn't have sunk to the level it did in 2003/2004 when he could only pick up a Sauber deal.

IS there any news on 2010 Renualt CAR???

I'm afraid, there is no new information about R30

Manager of Takuma Sato denied the rumours that Sato could driver for Renault.
I think everyting else than Nick Heidfeld would be a suprise now.

hmm Heidfield seems to be the strongest candidate, but if Renault annaunce other driver than QuickNick as their 2nd I wouldn't say it's suprise, especially after reports from Germany indicating that QuickNick may be Mercedes' 3rd driver

We really need more news from Renault, including second driver, Kubica in a new Renault suit, and launch dates.

A launch of a new website wouldn't be too bad either.

I do not procrastinate: my first impression is good (remember Talleyrand: beware of the first movement is always good). Boullier me like a normal man, with some human qualities . And most importantly, he has not tried to drown myself in great waxing lyrical about F1. It has a clear, sensible, wise, logical, in a word, with a rational plan and concrete. An observation, assessment, a plan ... and we advance. Moreover, he knows where he puts his feet. Example: I asked him what could scare the threshold of taking office. He replied: "Do not pass the mission entrusted to me, because of ego problems. The people who constitute the middle of the F1 are often oversized ego and is a difficulty of managing people who are affected. Honestly, this is very fair. So for now, I see a man ready to regain lost ground by a team for three years. The rest will be judged on pieces you like me.

According to this article, Fisi could return to Renault:

http://www.tomorrownewsf1.com/f1-fisichell...t-renault-10599

Unfortunately I there's nothing from above, guess we need to arm ourselfs with patience. In the meantime I found sth about Eric Boullier from Jean-Louis Moncet's blog (better this than nothing

it's total speculation

I was hoping for something like this:

Maybe it's fake (e.g. RB5 in Renault colors), but interesting:

Fake 100%, just look how high is the nose, alot higher than drivers head, how could one see where he is drving.

Fake 100%, just look how high is the nose, alot higher than drivers head, how could one see where he is drving.

I thought the higher nose was one of the new rules, reduced driver visability by 60%, help spice the show up..

Maybe it's fake (e.g. RB5 in Renault colors), but interesting: