Sorry, I was referring to this quote from Boullier



And replied in kind Algueruari is an exclusive Redbull Young Driver and was not from what I have read in contention for the Renault seat.

OIC, no worries!

Back on topic.

Here is Renault line-up for Jerez:

Wednesday: Vitaly PETROV
Thursday: Vitaly PETROV
Friday: Robert KUBICA
Saturday: Robert KUBICA

That's utterly insane. Asking a 7.5M€ loan to the bank with no guarantees whatsoever he'll find sponsors? Huge, huge risk.

His dad is putting a lot on the line to help his son live his dream. Risky but parents do a lot for their kids aye.

Tung and Charouz certainly don't, but I rate d'Ambrosio higher than Petrov. Strong racer, beat Kobayashi by far in the european seasons and ran him close in Asia, didn't have as many seasons in GP2 to develop his talent as Petrov did, neither had the chance of driving for a top GP2 team, neither had an experienced team-mate to learn from like Petrov did from Pantano and di Grassi.

I don't quite understand why Tung appears to be the 3rd driver and d'Ambrosio only the 4th. Surely Renault would give a race seat to the belgian rather than to the chinese?

Thanks!

This is a classic example why the financial industry is in sh1t, and why Western societies have the highest personal debt ratios in the world, which ultimately will become unsustainable. "Living above their means" I want my son to become a captain of industry and commerce. I also want my daughter to become the next Rosalind Franklin, or the female equivalent of Dmitri Mendeleev(a genius) because she is the brains of the family. But I'll tell you one thing, I'm not going to bankrupt myself doing it.

There is a big difference between a child asking you to re-mortgage one of your houses, because she needs £250K in start up money to fund a biotech company. At least you can see a possible return(finding a cure for Cancer, Alzheimer, Parkinson's etc) But to go f**king racing with no guarantee of being taken on by a bigger team and paid in the future? Do me a favour.

Might be the number of pesos each guy brings to the table?

I agree to that 100%

The odds of Petrov being successful in F1 are far higher than finding a cure for cancer with £250K. but I see your point.

Well, I guess that Jacques Villeneuve in Renault in 2010 season can be officially declared as re-opened.

why not ?

Money is nice, but there's got to be a limit as to the minimum talent they're going to let into the car in a race. I don't think Renault would be too happy by watching a car with their brand being driven by the modern version of Deletraz - not saying Tung is that bad, just exaggerating to make a point.

Besides, I thought Tung wasn't loaded with cash (if he was he'd have bought a decent GP2 seat a long time ago), he's just from a very strong market yet to be opened properly to F1.

Where's Tightpants? guess he must be coiled-up in a fetal position somewhere over the Petrov news?

hehe just kidding

First thing first, wouldn’t it be better if Renault thread and Petrov thread be merged. After all he is Renauly driver and almost everything that is written in Petrov thread concerns also Renault.

OK. Let’s take a closer look at Mr. Buxton’s blog-article. It actually comprise most of what we already knew about Petrov’s way into F1, with one new information (bank is having second thoughts) and one modified information (Putin wrote a letter - previous knowledge was that they wrote to Putin). All the rest is old stuff mixed together in a typical journalist shake: story about manager and 500 companies is old, known for a week or so, and Vitaly’s crying scene happened before he signed with Renault, but blog is written in a mixed chronology, which is supposed to fool a reader into thought that Vitaly Petrov, already a Formula One driver, is crying because he is going to lose his seat.
Most intriguing is part about Big Shots writing a letter of support for Petrov. That makes no sense. If tsar Putin expresses such a wish, it is definitely certain it shall be fulfilled. And there would be no question mark upon Petrov’s F1 career. I guess that some misunderstanding happened on line Russian media - Google translation - Mr. Buxton.

And now for some serious JV business. What if Petrov doesn’t deliver? It will be March already. Before they decide who is going to drive in his stead (and they are not quick deciders), 2010 F1 season will start. They can not stay with Petrov - lose of face . They can not take a newbie - no practice problems . There is only one solution: experienced driver. But wait, is there anyone left. Yes, yes, it is. Its our Good fellow Jacques. Long live Jacquerie.

Its a cunning plan. Renault let Petrov drives Bahrain GP and only then they sack penniless Paytrov, and hire JV. JV gets 3 days of newcomer testing, they use extra testing to incorporate all the secrets they saw on RBR6 in Bahrain and take WDC and WCC.

Happy end after all.

That's cruel, but...

Oh man, thanks for having registered in time to post this awesome polit-fiction story, I experienced a whole dream season reading it. I could only wish it were true.

In an total unreliable polish portal they write that the strongest candidate for Petrovs place is Jacques Villeneuve

Don't start it again, please

just found info that pingpong is to drive for one day to put some pressure on petrov. anybody found some reliable source?

Here we go again:P

But seriously, I doubt anything will change, in these sorts of situations it's usually lots of hoopla and panic and then everything tends to sort itself out.

there it is: http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2010/02/...replace-petrov/

First of all, if Kubica and Petrov will be only testing drivers in February, then nothing wrong gonna happens to Petrov's seat IMHO.

Please, enough with this JV nonsense ...

There were rumors that Renault is selling F1 Team, it turned out they were true. There were rumors that Petrov is going to be second driver, it turned out they were true. There were rumors about some unknown bloke Bouiller will be the new boss, guess what, it turned out that is also true. There were rumors that Renault is behind the schedule with R30, although they started in mid 2009, but once again, it was true.
A lot of bad (surpassingly) news is becoming true in case of Renault. That’s why I won’t be surprised if Petrov story is also true. In theirs official denial of rumors they are just saying that Vitaly signed a valid contract. There is not a single word, that they (father) don’t have liquidity problems.
I am skeptical about another thing: I don’t think Putin likes to be dictated what to do. Petrovs first entered F1 and now they are asking Putin for support, to pay the debts they made?! That is not the way it should be done.
I really do hope everything will turn out OK for Petrov, but I guess you just can’t tell with Renault this year. It can be just a rumor, like that one about Chinese driver , but it also can be very much true.

Autosport confirms that Petrov will drive from tomorrow at Jerez:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81358

link

Even if Petrovs money shows up and he sees the season through. Imagine the pressure on him to perform, can't be idealistic for a rookie can it?

I think that Pertov will keep his seat. Even without Emperor Putin's help.

If you think Flavio had it rough, I sure won't want to be in Boullier's shoes.

So JV can go back to your avatar?

Maybe..
I live in hope

Does anyone have a detailed pic of the defuser? Renault seem to be trying their best to hide it.

http://twitpic.com/111617
not a photo but good one

Yellow area in this picture is too small, here is proper image of R30 diffuser:

Three companies from Poland, it's a pleasure to hear that. I'm hoping for one of the Polmoses

@F001, here you have couples of detailed photos :

http://ups.imagup.com/07/1265360396.jpg

http://f1csatorna.hu/webimages/2010/02/val108.jpg

http://twitpic.com/1137t3

If the upper part is or is not part the diffuser depends on how air is feeded to that part. We can't see how it's fed. But the original was made by scarbs, he's seen the car in person. Do you have some knowledge on how it's fed?

Hehe korzeniow, I hope for Żołądkowa Gorzka Czysta, from what I heard, one of the best vodkas in Europe. Moreover, I agree with that

@Ruud - I don't have any knowledge about this. That picture is from f1technical forum.

BS, classic żołądkowa FTW!
It would be cool to see Wyborowa or Żubrówka logo on car.

No no, żołątkowa miętowa Pwnage!!!
Maybe some polish 'wine' brads??? 'Komandos' or something ??

But to stay serious and on topic I think that maybe some of international vodka brands would be interested, i'd bee happy.

Is it legal to have alkohol brands on cars? Or it's banned like cigarettes?

http://imgur.com/ow8Gd.png

http://imgur.com/SlwP9.png

Pfffft. The rumours of Petrov failing to front the money seem to come from two sources: a) Joe Saward, whose post on Petrov was loaded with errors and b) JV daying he's confident he'll drive in 2010.


Tightpants is coming to you live from the university library. I don't have my own dedicated connection because the IT department has decided to make it harder for everyone in the colleges to connect this year by changing the entire sytem.

Your posts sometimes amaze me...

I assume, that you suggest - yes, it's legal, aren't you?

So now, if it's clear for everyone that alkohol ad on a car is legal - Sobieski/Belvedere has the biggest capital and international coverage from Polish vodka brands.