Alonso was fastest all session until Massa went with lower fuel before him, that´s what happened.

It seems you care.

Well, not really.

Now I understand why you still didn't reply to this post:

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I never ever said that - I think Seb is the best one, I revised my opinion on Lewis (far too many mistakes in last 2 years) and I would add Robert and Adrian to best guys on wet.



You have bad memory - firstly he kissed barrier at Massenet (?), luckily for him without breaking suspension, rammed poor Nick at hairpin and finished being lapped. And BTW. it was 69 times .



Overtaking Nico, Force Indias, Seb Buemi, Kimi with sick engine and Nick with something broken after he was hit by the wheel from Force India, finishing 9th ahead of one Ferrari DNF, one Ferrari not working properly, Robert who rammed Jarno and had badly connected front wing, and behind Lewis with 5 spins - fantastic race indeed.

Wanted too much from the car, like Felipe in Great Britain 2008 ?



No, on that lap Felipe lost 10 seconds, while Fernando 35 . 7.5 seconds gap was made when they both were in free air, overtaking 1 driver each (Lewis by Felipe and Kazuki by Fred). If you don't believe me I can provide stats to prove that.

Actually I have one statistic saved:



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What the hell are you talking about? By being not aggressive you mean purpling 5 sectors in a row after his stop?




Everyone!!!11 Nico Rosberg, 2009 WDC of FPs, that's why Mercedes took him from Williams .

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I really want to see wet race, when they will start from closest positions on the grid, should be fun .

Qualifying

Alonso 3 : 1 Massa

Race (so far)

Alonso 1 : 2 Massa

Massa lost a lot to alonso in s3 on both laps in Q3, otherwise they were showing similar speed.

Massa did a great job today, he is not that far from Alonso.

Yep, shame he made mistakes in Q3, but I am happy he is close to Fernando .

3-1

I don't know what mistake he did but he was slower than Alonso all weekend. Trust me I was watching all live times. Indeed in Qualys he has been the closest to Alonso. Anyways is going to rain(I hope) coz I sick about those RedBulls.

Congratulations Alonso fans. This one went to your boy. The difference was marginal but Alonso made two great S3 times. No one can deny that. Felipe will fight tomorrow and if not then he'll fight another day.

Cheers.

His S1 in second try was 1 tenth slower, also I don't think his S3 was the fastest during quali, But nevertheless, the one who "won" made less or no mistakes and was better, great P3 .

And no, we can't compare FP2 and FP3, because in Friday they set best laps on different compounds and today Felipe was twice blocked in S3. Fernando is some 1-2 tenths faster in China, that's the gap.

Man Alonso did great S3's all day long. It was Massa who barely did 2 good S3 in FP3 and Qualys. Massa did well after all, he is in 7 because there were a lot of drivers that got well too...

I've been following all free practices and qualy and the difference has been 4-5 along the weekend, basically the same distance we have been seen so far this season

Did I say something different?

I think the difference was slightly bigger, but after all they were slower that those annoying RedBulls...

I thought you did. As I said Massa is on pace in China. Tomorrow is the real deal, hope something will stop those RedBulls (rain...)

massacrator hahaha

Massa found out today how costly 2 tenths can be.

Still, he shouldn't be behind the McLarens.

It wasn't but I don't want to spare my time on something which is not important at all, because you see true raw pace in quali (0,5-2,5 tenths) and true race pace in... race, which is tomorrow, so yes, Felipe was even 2 seconds slower per lap, if it suits you.



I hope for rain too, it will be useful for comparison there . But I'm afraid Red Bulls are unstoppable in wet conditions and even in comparable to Ferrari car, Seb is faster than both Fernando and Felipe on wet track.

Rather unfortunate that Felipe baby outqualified Fernando by 0.4s in Bahrain and gained 1 position. Yet today, he was 0.2s down and lost 4 positions.

BTW. On ideal lap (fastest sectors added) Fernando is 0.151 faster than Felipe.

My thoughts too. I expected more from him. His fans don't like that talk though.

Alonso has the f duct but Massa doesn't - no surprises he is ahead.

wrong none of the cars used the system

as long as he's 1 thousandth quicker is enough for me, what I did was just to highlight the real gap between them this weekend

Another super performance by FA. He will not hampered by being behind FM tomorrow so hopefully he can hunt down SV tomorrow.

Ye but that's not counting. Look at Hammy and Button...

Shame the camera's didn't show much of Alonso's lap, but he did a pretty decent job there. Time-wise, I'm surprised how far back such a small difference has left Massa.

You are joking, right?

Of course it's not, it's just an interesting piece of info. And that means Lewis blew it, while Fernando did not .

Wait for @Rodrigol to show up...

talk is useless, alonso was simply better today

Right, especially because Alonso could have ended just in front of Massa (P7) had he been only 122 thousands slower: the gap between P3 and P7. Really close qualifying today.

I actually think the McLarens shouldn't be behind Ferrari on this track. VERY small time differences meant a lot of places today.

Greetings from Oviedo,

Almost feeling guilty to root so much for my boy Fernando here.

Massa is 1st in the WDC.
Alonso is 2nd in the WDC.
The Red Bulls dominate qualiying again.
Alonso qualifies 3rd for the 3rd time.
Engine situation has no further room for error.
Best race lap list on each race points Alonso with great pace.
...

Massa is showing a fine performance.
But i cant help to see Fernando a tier above.
As an Alonso fan i fear this heart feeling is biasing my opinion.
It's not that i disrespect Felipe. On the contrary.
All Massa fans are welcome to ilustrate his achievements and best moments.
Present season and past, inside and outside the races.
We can enjoy the driving of both of them in peace
(what's Massa best F1 onboard cameras? and his best video driving a supercar?)

http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2008/11/8645.html
http://contigo.abril.com.br/imagem/noticia...assa-011209.jpg <- that one is Felipe Baby

Anyway, Alonso is fighting for the Championship and for some reason is spotting his opponents outside of his team. (is that odd?)
Considering a -10 grid position penalty is most likely to happen at the end of season, it is time to get some point room.
To provide for the reliability issues in terms of chances of WDC.
...
All best luck to Massa and Alonso!

Great job from Fernando as usual, he was a bit faster than Massa, but Massa was closer to him this time.

I believe if Alonso was only 122 tenths slower he would find himself right (only about 70 tenths) behind Chandhok.

How amazing is F1, you lose as little as 122 tenths and you end 7 seconds of the pace of the last car!

Sheer poetry!
+1

Alonso's was the best place a Ferrari could of been without RBR throwing away positions I guess.

Very unfortunate such a close time for Massa would lose so many places. Hopefully Ferrari has unequalled race pace so Alonso can fight the RBR's and Massa can fight for a podium.
If they can they will.

I was thinking: what the hell is this man saying? I see now. My bad . I'll edit it in order not to be the target of further mocking.

Agh, cheer up man, no big deal that was

In 4 races for ferrari, alonso has already done what kimi could not do for almost 3 years. Establish a clear speed advantage over felipe Massa. Massa did well today to get within 0.266 but thats still a sizeable gap in modern F1. Looks like the only way Massa can outqualify Alonso is if he makes a mistake like Bahrain.

Isn't that generally how it works anyway? Massa made a mistake today and who knows where he would have been, Bahrain Alo makes the mistake and Mas doesn't so Felipe ends up ahead.
There's not much between them at all which is a credit to Felipe esp as he is leading the championship which you can't luck yourself into but at the same time, it's telling that Alo keeps being the dominant racer of the team just by his impressive performances even when he makes mistakes.

Not really the same because Alonso's Q3 lap in bahrain was half a second slower than his q2 lap, so he really stuffed it up and it was an anomoly. Massa's Q3 lap in China was his fastest lap of the weekend so he didnt really stuff up it was the best he had.

Massa was seven tenths off Alonso's lap today. Did he spin or go off?

What? It was 2´66 tenths. Pretty good for Massa

I was about to fully agree with steph90's theoretical interpretation of less mistakes from an unreacheable ideal lap but certainly you have point there.