QUOTE (Wolfie @ Aug 17 2011, 09:33) 
SpaMaster, here are the lyrics 
Thanks Wolfie
Nice lyrics
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Thanks Wolfie
Nice lyrics
QUOTE (SpaMaster @ Aug 17 2011, 08:06)
^ Thank you. 
That was fantastic. Thank God, I thought I was going to hear Kimi singing. Not many people know Kimi can do things like these.
That was fantastic. Thank God, I thought I was going to hear Kimi singing. Not many people know Kimi can do things like these.Kimi's acting is so bad it really makes it awesome!
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Aug 17 2011, 09:54)
It's easier to watch the video, isn't it fullthrottle? I just love the way they are celebrating even if they have rolled, the kids are great
The lyrics made me wonder how many families are in the same situation since almost every guy I have met, they have rallying as a dream. It costs money and it's not that simple money-wise if the car becomes a money-pit
The lyrics made me wonder how many families are in the same situation since almost every guy I have met, they have rallying as a dream. It costs money and it's not that simple money-wise if the car becomes a money-pit
Yes, definitely much nicer when you understand the lyrics
BTW, what does "Kirraa" mean?? As in Kirraa 100 over the crest....
QUOTE (intelligentsia @ Aug 17 2011, 01:50)
Kimi's acting is so bad it really makes it awesome!
That is very true. There is some dead-panness and blind bravado to act that lets him get away. I tried to see how his acting is as he takes off his helmet and raises his hands. It is very disconnection with reality that actually works for that scene! The best I have seen Kimi act is that German circus program. He sucked about every other instance he acted, but that works for him!Wolfie: About the lyrics
you lack a couple of screws from your head
The lines are so funny, but also portray the passion and reality at the same time.
I saw you guys discussing this video somewhere. But I was thinking it was like that AxlRose kind of thing. This video was definitely very good to know.
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Aug 17 2011, 10:34)
Thanks for asking, fullthrottle
It's rally-language in Finnish and means 'tighten', does it make more sense now?
It's rally-language in Finnish and means 'tighten', does it make more sense now?
Ah...tight 100 over the crest.. but was it right or left or..? maybe that was the missing notes
Taken this morning, compliments to Momo 
QUOTE (intelligentsia @ Aug 17 2011, 11:50)
Kimi's acting is so bad it really makes it awesome!
Kimi being Kimi he's not acting. He's just being himself as usual.
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Aug 17 2011, 12:41)
Back to serious business!
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Kimi has cut his hair according to the finnish forum *yikes*
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Kimi has cut his hair according to the finnish forum *yikes*
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Aug 17 2011, 11:41)
Back to serious business!
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Kimi has cut his hair according to the finnish forum *yikes*
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Kimi has cut his hair according to the finnish forum *yikes*
No!!!!!!!!!!
Hmm it doesn't look like it on that picture.
QUOTE (OSX @ Aug 17 2011, 12:03)
Kimi being Kimi he's not acting. He's just being himself as usual.
Oh I think Kimi was acting a little bit, he celebrated more there then when he actually wins a race.
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Aug 17 2011, 15:11)
Back to serious business!
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Kimi has cut his hair according to the finnish forum *yikes*
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Kimi has cut his hair according to the finnish forum *yikes*
Weird. Loved the car on it's side!
Kirraa does not mean the corner is tight, it means that the corner will get tighter towards its end. So it can open very wide and then tighten a lot towards its end.
So it is a warning to the driver that the radius of the corner will significantly change during the corner.
They also use the tone and volume of the voice to further indicate how tight its going to get. So they can shout it hard if it's going to be really tricky. I'm sure this is normal with all warnings of something unusual though.
The original Finnish word is "kiristyy", tightens. "Kirraa" is easier and quicker to say.
So it is a warning to the driver that the radius of the corner will significantly change during the corner.
They also use the tone and volume of the voice to further indicate how tight its going to get. So they can shout it hard if it's going to be really tricky. I'm sure this is normal with all warnings of something unusual though.
The original Finnish word is "kiristyy", tightens. "Kirraa" is easier and quicker to say.
QUOTE (Anssi @ Aug 17 2011, 19:45)
Kirraa does not mean the corner is tight, it means that the corner will get tighter towards its end. So it can open very wide and then tighten a lot towards its end.
So it is a warning to the driver that the radius of the corner will significantly change during the corner.
They also use the tone and volume of the voice to further indicate how tight its going to get. So they can shout it hard if it's going to be really tricky. I'm sure this is normal with all warnings of something unusual though.
The original Finnish word is "kiristyy", tightens. "Kirraa" is easier and quicker to say.
So it is a warning to the driver that the radius of the corner will significantly change during the corner.
They also use the tone and volume of the voice to further indicate how tight its going to get. So they can shout it hard if it's going to be really tricky. I'm sure this is normal with all warnings of something unusual though.
The original Finnish word is "kiristyy", tightens. "Kirraa" is easier and quicker to say.
I think Wolfie just missed one "s" and originally ment "tightens"
QUOTE (cilurnum @ Aug 16 2011, 19:07)
. You have to have a business case for that and I'm sorry, but thinking that Alonso is the greatest thing since sliced bread is not a business case.
Believing Alonso will deliver far better results is a very strong business case.
Next week on Autosport Magazine: "The enigma of Raikkonen".
Shakedown for Rallye Deutschland already took place. No dramas, and not a bad time.
But, it seems Räikkönen is sick with a flu.
But, it seems Räikkönen is sick with a flu.
QUOTE (mrmusicman @ Aug 18 2011, 03:14)
Believing Alonso will deliver far better results is a very strong business case.
Free money always improves a business case!
QUOTE
http://www.ts.fi/moottoriurheilu/f1/249241.html
Free Mr. Räikkönen is open to all offers
Turun Sanomat 18.8 2011 21:10:13
Kimi Räikkönen is known for not living in the past - still the 31-year old racer hasn't yet grabbed his future either.
At the eve of Germany rally Räikkönen managed to walk around every pitfall when interviewed by Turun Sanomat.
Räikkönen says he is satisfied with his development during the second year in WRC. He has five rallies behind him and five positions on WC-points.
– It has been a little more easier than it was before. We have lost a few positions when we had the tyre puncture in Jordan and crashed into a fence in Jyväskylä. The best is that we have progressed in time from last year, Räikkönen estimates.
How will the development proceed if Räikkönen drives WRC-rallies for the third season?
– Time will tell, he says.
Then how open is Räikkönen's next year?
– There are no plans.
Then is there something that you at least have ruled out of your options?
– Useless to ask, Räikkönen grins.
You aren't planning on stopping your driving career, are you?
– I don't know. It's useless for you to ask. Even though you would ask me in a hundred different ways, the reply won't change. When you don't know it yourself, then there aren't many others who know either, Räikkönen insists.
Then what would you still want to do - Le Mans 24 hours or perhaps the Dakar-rally?
– It could be really cool to drive Le Mans. But if you are going to drive it, then you also have to drive a few races as a test and the schedules can become tricky. If I would go for example with Peugeot to Le Mans, then I would have to drive at least three test races.
– I haven't even thought of something like Dakar. It could also be a cool experience but I don't have any urge to go there. I'm sure it would be very different, although I don't know since I haven't been there.
Lets go back to rally.
A year ago in Germany Räikkönen achieved his first rally merit when being the fastest on the last SS. This year that same 4,37 kilometer long Trier's Circus Maximus SS will give power stage points to the three fastest.
Räikkönen has been driving with his own Citroen DN3 WRC -car only a day on tarmac when testing. He doesn't start specifying his expectations.
– There could have been a little more testing. Now we more or less try out things here. We'll see soon how the rally takes off. There is a small bit of real tarmac too, although the surfaces are mostly somekind of beton.
A track driver's experience doesn't help in tarmac rallies.
– There is nothing similar in them. The normal roads are never like a real track, the car is jumping and flying here and there.
It's easy to determine that Räikkönen would take a F1-challenge if he would be given the right offer.
How much do you follow F1-races?
– Everytime when I'm at home.
What do you think about the multiplied overtakings in GP-races?
– Apparently it's easier in some races than in others. It depends upon how they decide about where the back wing can be opened. But it has nothing to do with the actual overtakings anymore. All you have to do is move beside and press a button and the one in front of you can't do a thing.
– I guess they have been trying to take it into the right direction. Maybe it looks more cooler in television but it's not any real racing.
– The tyre department again is a completely different thing. Those races where the tyre consumption have been decisive, they have been the best competitions, Räikkönen thinks.
Doesn't it tingle at all to get there and start overtaking?
– It doesn't change my attitude at all if they overtake there or not. It is always cool when you get to race. That's all it takes.
Räikkönen is not surprised that Sebastian Vettel's superiority has evened out a bit during the season.
– Often the situation always evens out every year if someone has been clearly leading in the beginning. And Vettel probably doesn't even have to win races in order to stay in the lead up until the end.
– That was the best in those Nascar-races. To just drive alone in a circle was boring but especially in the truck-race the feeling was great. It's great to race when you have cars all around you. It's racing all the time. The Nationwide-car didn't turn anywhere. That's why it wasn't as cool as the truck-race was.
Are we going to see Räikkönen in Nascar-races in the future?
– I don't know. Let's see. I could go there if I wanted to but like I said I haven't thought about next year at all.
Räikkönen was expected to go to the States again last weekend for the Watkins Glen's Nascar-race. Actually they tried to lure the him there very much after one Sprint Cup -driver was injured and his car was offered to Räikkönen.
– I just didn't want to go there. Besides the race was postponed by a day and I wouldn't have got here in Germany for recce then, Räikkönen said.
Turun Sanomat, Trier
HEIKKI KULTA
Free Mr. Räikkönen is open to all offers
Turun Sanomat 18.8 2011 21:10:13
Kimi Räikkönen is known for not living in the past - still the 31-year old racer hasn't yet grabbed his future either.
At the eve of Germany rally Räikkönen managed to walk around every pitfall when interviewed by Turun Sanomat.
Räikkönen says he is satisfied with his development during the second year in WRC. He has five rallies behind him and five positions on WC-points.
– It has been a little more easier than it was before. We have lost a few positions when we had the tyre puncture in Jordan and crashed into a fence in Jyväskylä. The best is that we have progressed in time from last year, Räikkönen estimates.
How will the development proceed if Räikkönen drives WRC-rallies for the third season?
– Time will tell, he says.
Then how open is Räikkönen's next year?
– There are no plans.
Then is there something that you at least have ruled out of your options?
– Useless to ask, Räikkönen grins.
You aren't planning on stopping your driving career, are you?
– I don't know. It's useless for you to ask. Even though you would ask me in a hundred different ways, the reply won't change. When you don't know it yourself, then there aren't many others who know either, Räikkönen insists.
Then what would you still want to do - Le Mans 24 hours or perhaps the Dakar-rally?
– It could be really cool to drive Le Mans. But if you are going to drive it, then you also have to drive a few races as a test and the schedules can become tricky. If I would go for example with Peugeot to Le Mans, then I would have to drive at least three test races.
– I haven't even thought of something like Dakar. It could also be a cool experience but I don't have any urge to go there. I'm sure it would be very different, although I don't know since I haven't been there.
Lets go back to rally.
A year ago in Germany Räikkönen achieved his first rally merit when being the fastest on the last SS. This year that same 4,37 kilometer long Trier's Circus Maximus SS will give power stage points to the three fastest.
Räikkönen has been driving with his own Citroen DN3 WRC -car only a day on tarmac when testing. He doesn't start specifying his expectations.
– There could have been a little more testing. Now we more or less try out things here. We'll see soon how the rally takes off. There is a small bit of real tarmac too, although the surfaces are mostly somekind of beton.
A track driver's experience doesn't help in tarmac rallies.
– There is nothing similar in them. The normal roads are never like a real track, the car is jumping and flying here and there.
It's easy to determine that Räikkönen would take a F1-challenge if he would be given the right offer.
How much do you follow F1-races?
– Everytime when I'm at home.
What do you think about the multiplied overtakings in GP-races?
– Apparently it's easier in some races than in others. It depends upon how they decide about where the back wing can be opened. But it has nothing to do with the actual overtakings anymore. All you have to do is move beside and press a button and the one in front of you can't do a thing.
– I guess they have been trying to take it into the right direction. Maybe it looks more cooler in television but it's not any real racing.
– The tyre department again is a completely different thing. Those races where the tyre consumption have been decisive, they have been the best competitions, Räikkönen thinks.
Doesn't it tingle at all to get there and start overtaking?
– It doesn't change my attitude at all if they overtake there or not. It is always cool when you get to race. That's all it takes.
Räikkönen is not surprised that Sebastian Vettel's superiority has evened out a bit during the season.
– Often the situation always evens out every year if someone has been clearly leading in the beginning. And Vettel probably doesn't even have to win races in order to stay in the lead up until the end.
– That was the best in those Nascar-races. To just drive alone in a circle was boring but especially in the truck-race the feeling was great. It's great to race when you have cars all around you. It's racing all the time. The Nationwide-car didn't turn anywhere. That's why it wasn't as cool as the truck-race was.
Are we going to see Räikkönen in Nascar-races in the future?
– I don't know. Let's see. I could go there if I wanted to but like I said I haven't thought about next year at all.
Räikkönen was expected to go to the States again last weekend for the Watkins Glen's Nascar-race. Actually they tried to lure the him there very much after one Sprint Cup -driver was injured and his car was offered to Räikkönen.
– I just didn't want to go there. Besides the race was postponed by a day and I wouldn't have got here in Germany for recce then, Räikkönen said.
Turun Sanomat, Trier
HEIKKI KULTA
QUOTE
http://www.ts.fi/moottoriurheilu/ralli/249239.html
Räikkönen is not going to Australia
Turun Sanomat 18.8 2011 21:01:57
Although Kimi Räikkönen was going to go to Rally Australia in September, he has decided to skip it.
– I won't drive there. I was going to but we aren't going. It's so far away that I'm not interested in travelling there, Räikkönen confirmed to Turun Sanomat.
Germany is Räikkönen's 6th WRC-rally this season. Since he leaves Australia out of the program he still has France, Catalynia and Great-Britain.
Turun Sanomat, Trier
HEIKKI KULTA
Räikkönen is not going to Australia
Turun Sanomat 18.8 2011 21:01:57
Although Kimi Räikkönen was going to go to Rally Australia in September, he has decided to skip it.
– I won't drive there. I was going to but we aren't going. It's so far away that I'm not interested in travelling there, Räikkönen confirmed to Turun Sanomat.
Germany is Räikkönen's 6th WRC-rally this season. Since he leaves Australia out of the program he still has France, Catalynia and Great-Britain.
Turun Sanomat, Trier
HEIKKI KULTA
QUOTE
Kimi Rally Germany preview in Finnish
Challenging in a tricky way
This Germany is a quite tricky rally. Lets see how it takes off. I have good vibes from last year and lets hope that it goes better the second time, in this year's way.
The more in the top you would get to start, the more easier it would be. If you have to go on the route from very behind, then the more all kind of trash there is on the road.
Now we are on tarmac for the first time after gravel rallies. We had a test after Jyskälä. We could have used a bit more testing since we were left with things we have to try out during this rally week. Soon we'll see how we got things in place.
All and all it's easier when we know what to expect. They haven't changed more than a couple of stages. They took about 10 km off the super long SS on beton. Now we have about 35 kilometers of that banging.
Last year we went well until the last day. I made a few blunders in the crossroads and we lost our position.
Now we try to improve. Not do any blunders and try to get time-wise as close as we already got in Jyskälä.
Lets hope now that the weather stays good. It would be much nicer since we haven't drove even one test during rain with this car. This route gets very slippery if water starts falling down on it.
They talk about tarmac, although I think we are driving more on beton in this rally. There is a decent road somewhere there but usually it's something completely different from a clean tarmac surface.
Challenging in a tricky way
This Germany is a quite tricky rally. Lets see how it takes off. I have good vibes from last year and lets hope that it goes better the second time, in this year's way.
The more in the top you would get to start, the more easier it would be. If you have to go on the route from very behind, then the more all kind of trash there is on the road.
Now we are on tarmac for the first time after gravel rallies. We had a test after Jyskälä. We could have used a bit more testing since we were left with things we have to try out during this rally week. Soon we'll see how we got things in place.
All and all it's easier when we know what to expect. They haven't changed more than a couple of stages. They took about 10 km off the super long SS on beton. Now we have about 35 kilometers of that banging.
Last year we went well until the last day. I made a few blunders in the crossroads and we lost our position.
Now we try to improve. Not do any blunders and try to get time-wise as close as we already got in Jyskälä.
Lets hope now that the weather stays good. It would be much nicer since we haven't drove even one test during rain with this car. This route gets very slippery if water starts falling down on it.
They talk about tarmac, although I think we are driving more on beton in this rally. There is a decent road somewhere there but usually it's something completely different from a clean tarmac surface.
Keep the info coming Wolfie
Really? Gotta read that. Thanks.
I always thought that "enigma" was pretty descriptive of Kimi. At least to people that do not know him personally. Fascinating to some and highly irritating to others.
QUOTE (kosmos @ Aug 18 2011, 14:02)
Next week on Autosport Magazine: "The enigma of Raikkonen".
Really? Gotta read that. Thanks.
I always thought that "enigma" was pretty descriptive of Kimi. At least to people that do not know him personally. Fascinating to some and highly irritating to others.
I am glad Kimi thinks the same way as me regarding DRS. Not real racing. Most of this year's excitement is due to tyres.
QUOTE (SpaMaster @ Aug 18 2011, 23:20)
I am glad Kimi thinks the same way as me regarding DRS. Not real racing. Most of this year's excitement is due to tyres.
Yep, the guy said word by word what I think about it. Nice coincidence.
Trying to mimick the slipstreaming with just taking off the wing, there is something very artificial about it.
I mean, they want the car to go fast in aero section with such aero gadgets, but at the same time don't want to have any difficulty following a car. They want their cake and eat it too.
I mean, they want the car to go fast in aero section with such aero gadgets, but at the same time don't want to have any difficulty following a car. They want their cake and eat it too.
Wish people would stop asking him about F1 - he's in the WRC, get over it....
QUOTE (Callisto @ Aug 10 2011, 23:43)
Spa is kimis favourite track,i wonder if he will watch the race...lol
I guess if kimi is at home he will watch the race as he mentions in the article above
Sorry SpaMaster - I didn't get back to the thread to see your request. I am glad someone provided you the link to the video. Wasn't it awesome? I was laughing - but it was very well done also. Kimi is so funny - sometimes he says things, and you have to remember other things, and if you do, they are hilarious. That seems to happen in interviews before and now. At first something strikes you a little odd, then you remember and crack up.
I think Kimi is loosing his interest in WRC slowly. I mean, not going to Australia because it is far away? Can you imagine him not going to Australia when he was in F1?
I'm just worried he could retire very soon, much before than he should.
I'm just worried he could retire very soon, much before than he should.
QUOTE (Trust @ Aug 19 2011, 01:06)
I think Kimi is loosing his interest in WRC slowly. I mean, not going to Australia because it is far away? Can you imagine him not going to Australia when he was in F1?
I'm just worried he could retire very soon, much before than he should.
I'm just worried he could retire very soon, much before than he should.
In F1 he was an employee, in WRC he finances his participation.
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Aug 18 2011, 22:36)
A slightly more revealing than usual for a Kimi interview. Thanks for making me notice it!
QUOTE (kosmos @ Aug 18 2011, 15:02)
Next week on Autosport Magazine: "The enigma of Raikkonen".
That should be interesting.
QUOTE (OSX @ Aug 19 2011, 10:59)
That should be interesting.
Or probably just a bunch of cliches they've already used a million times, but want to refresh for some magazine sales.
Come back Kimeh
Borlotti: I want Räikkönen back
Thursday, 18 August, 2011
The Austrian-Italian Mirko Bortolotti returned to the Formula 2 series for the season 2011, after a year in the GP3. The 21-year-old is one of the best young drivers in the world and has had the chance to test both Ferrari as well as Toro Rosso F1 cars.
The F1 promise admires Michael Schumacher, whose achievements are known to everyone. Kimi Räikkönen, however is the one driver whom Borlotti would like to see back in the series.
"I'm still a big fan of him"
Asked if he has any heroes, Borlotti said the following.
- In the past I think it was Michael Schumacher. Obviously when you win a couple of world championships in a row you have to be a big talent, so that was maybe one of my heroes in the last couple of years.
But in terms of driving I really miss Kimi Räikkönen in Formula 1 to be honest, he’s a very good driver and I’m still a big fan of him, he told GPUpdate.net.
http://racingnewsflash.com/content/borlott...k%C3%B6nen-back
Thursday, 18 August, 2011
The Austrian-Italian Mirko Bortolotti returned to the Formula 2 series for the season 2011, after a year in the GP3. The 21-year-old is one of the best young drivers in the world and has had the chance to test both Ferrari as well as Toro Rosso F1 cars.
The F1 promise admires Michael Schumacher, whose achievements are known to everyone. Kimi Räikkönen, however is the one driver whom Borlotti would like to see back in the series.
"I'm still a big fan of him"
Asked if he has any heroes, Borlotti said the following.
- In the past I think it was Michael Schumacher. Obviously when you win a couple of world championships in a row you have to be a big talent, so that was maybe one of my heroes in the last couple of years.
But in terms of driving I really miss Kimi Räikkönen in Formula 1 to be honest, he’s a very good driver and I’m still a big fan of him, he told GPUpdate.net.
http://racingnewsflash.com/content/borlott...k%C3%B6nen-back
QUOTE (Wolfie @ Aug 18 2011, 22:36)
Free Mr. Raikkonen Is Open to All Offers
Turun Sanomat, 18 August 2011
Kimi Räikkönen is known for not living in the past - still the 31-year old racer hasn't yet grabbed his future either.
At the eve of Germany rally Räikkönen managed to walk around every pitfall when interviewed by Turun Sanomat.
Räikkönen says he is satisfied with his development during the second year in WRC. He has five rallies behind him and five positions on WC-points.
– It has been a little more easier than it was before. We have lost a few positions when we had the tyre puncture in Jordan and crashed into a fence in Jyväskylä. The best is that we have progressed in time from last year, Räikkönen estimates.
How will the development proceed if Räikkönen drives WRC-rallies for the third season?
– Time will tell, he says.
Then how open is Räikkönen's next year?
– There are no plans.
Then is there something that you at least have ruled out of your options?
– Useless to ask, Räikkönen grins.
You aren't planning on stopping your driving career, are you?
– I don't know. It's useless for you to ask. Even though you would ask me in a hundred different ways, the reply won't change. When you don't know it yourself, then there aren't many others who know either, Räikkönen insists.
Then what would you still want to do - Le Mans 24 hours or perhaps the Dakar-rally?
– It could be really cool to drive Le Mans. But if you are going to drive it, then you also have to drive a few races as a test and the schedules can become tricky. If I would go for example with Peugeot to Le Mans, then I would have to drive at least three test races.
– I haven't even thought of something like Dakar. It could also be a cool experience but I don't have any urge to go there. I'm sure it would be very different, although I don't know since I haven't been there.
Bonus points on offer in Germany
Lets go back to rally.
A year ago in Germany Räikkönen achieved his first rally merit when being the fastest on the last SS. This year that same 4,37 kilometer long Trier's Circus Maximus SS will give power stage points to the three fastest.
Räikkönen has been driving with his own Citroen DN3 WRC -car only a day on tarmac when testing. He doesn't start specifying his expectations.
– There could have been a little more testing. Now we more or less try out things here. We'll see soon how the rally takes off. There is a small bit of real tarmac too, although the surfaces are mostly somekind of beton.
A track driver's experience doesn't help in tarmac rallies.
– There is nothing similar in them. The normal roads are never like a real track, the car is jumping and flying here and there.
An offer from F1 would interest Kimi
It's easy to determine that Räikkönen would take a F1-challenge if he would be given the right offer.
How much do you follow F1-races?
– Everytime when I'm at home.
What do you think about the multiplied overtakings in GP-races?
– Apparently it's easier in some races than in others. It depends upon how they decide about where the back wing can be opened. But it has nothing to do with the actual overtakings anymore. All you have to do is move beside and press a button and the one in front of you can't do a thing.
– I guess they have been trying to take it into the right direction. Maybe it looks more cooler in television but it's not any real racing.
– The tyre department again is a completely different thing. Those races where the tyre consumption have been decisive, they have been the best competitions, Räikkönen thinks.
Doesn't it tingle at all to get there and start overtaking?
– It doesn't change my attitude at all if they overtake there or not. It is always cool when you get to race. That's all it takes.
Räikkönen is not surprised that Sebastian Vettel's superiority has evened out a bit during the season.
– Often the situation always evens out every year if someone has been clearly leading in the beginning. And Vettel probably doesn't even have to win races in order to stay in the lead up until the end.
Race driving still fascinates
Race driving still fascinates Raikkonen.
– That was the best in those Nascar-races. To just drive alone in a circle was boring but especially in the truck-race the feeling was great. It's great to race when you have cars all around you. It's racing all the time. The Nationwide-car didn't turn anywhere. That's why it wasn't as cool as the truck-race was.
Are we going to see Räikkönen in Nascar-races in the future?
– I don't know. Let's see. I could go there if I wanted to but like I said I haven't thought about next year at all.
No Watkins Glen
Räikkönen was expected to go to the States again last weekend for the Watkins Glen's Nascar-race. Actually they tried to lure the him there very much after one Sprint Cup -driver was injured and his car was offered to Räikkönen.
– I just didn't want to go there. Besides the race was postponed by a day and I wouldn't have got here in Germany for recce then, Räikkönen said.
Turun Sanomat, Trier
-HEIKKI KULTA
http://www.ts.fi/moottoriurheilu/f1/249241.html
Turun Sanomat, 18 August 2011
Kimi Räikkönen is known for not living in the past - still the 31-year old racer hasn't yet grabbed his future either.
At the eve of Germany rally Räikkönen managed to walk around every pitfall when interviewed by Turun Sanomat.
Räikkönen says he is satisfied with his development during the second year in WRC. He has five rallies behind him and five positions on WC-points.
– It has been a little more easier than it was before. We have lost a few positions when we had the tyre puncture in Jordan and crashed into a fence in Jyväskylä. The best is that we have progressed in time from last year, Räikkönen estimates.
How will the development proceed if Räikkönen drives WRC-rallies for the third season?
– Time will tell, he says.
Then how open is Räikkönen's next year?
– There are no plans.
Then is there something that you at least have ruled out of your options?
– Useless to ask, Räikkönen grins.
You aren't planning on stopping your driving career, are you?
– I don't know. It's useless for you to ask. Even though you would ask me in a hundred different ways, the reply won't change. When you don't know it yourself, then there aren't many others who know either, Räikkönen insists.
Then what would you still want to do - Le Mans 24 hours or perhaps the Dakar-rally?
– It could be really cool to drive Le Mans. But if you are going to drive it, then you also have to drive a few races as a test and the schedules can become tricky. If I would go for example with Peugeot to Le Mans, then I would have to drive at least three test races.
– I haven't even thought of something like Dakar. It could also be a cool experience but I don't have any urge to go there. I'm sure it would be very different, although I don't know since I haven't been there.
Bonus points on offer in Germany
Lets go back to rally.
A year ago in Germany Räikkönen achieved his first rally merit when being the fastest on the last SS. This year that same 4,37 kilometer long Trier's Circus Maximus SS will give power stage points to the three fastest.
Räikkönen has been driving with his own Citroen DN3 WRC -car only a day on tarmac when testing. He doesn't start specifying his expectations.
– There could have been a little more testing. Now we more or less try out things here. We'll see soon how the rally takes off. There is a small bit of real tarmac too, although the surfaces are mostly somekind of beton.
A track driver's experience doesn't help in tarmac rallies.
– There is nothing similar in them. The normal roads are never like a real track, the car is jumping and flying here and there.
An offer from F1 would interest Kimi
It's easy to determine that Räikkönen would take a F1-challenge if he would be given the right offer.
How much do you follow F1-races?
– Everytime when I'm at home.
What do you think about the multiplied overtakings in GP-races?
– Apparently it's easier in some races than in others. It depends upon how they decide about where the back wing can be opened. But it has nothing to do with the actual overtakings anymore. All you have to do is move beside and press a button and the one in front of you can't do a thing.
– I guess they have been trying to take it into the right direction. Maybe it looks more cooler in television but it's not any real racing.
– The tyre department again is a completely different thing. Those races where the tyre consumption have been decisive, they have been the best competitions, Räikkönen thinks.
Doesn't it tingle at all to get there and start overtaking?
– It doesn't change my attitude at all if they overtake there or not. It is always cool when you get to race. That's all it takes.
Räikkönen is not surprised that Sebastian Vettel's superiority has evened out a bit during the season.
– Often the situation always evens out every year if someone has been clearly leading in the beginning. And Vettel probably doesn't even have to win races in order to stay in the lead up until the end.
Race driving still fascinates
Race driving still fascinates Raikkonen.
– That was the best in those Nascar-races. To just drive alone in a circle was boring but especially in the truck-race the feeling was great. It's great to race when you have cars all around you. It's racing all the time. The Nationwide-car didn't turn anywhere. That's why it wasn't as cool as the truck-race was.
Are we going to see Räikkönen in Nascar-races in the future?
– I don't know. Let's see. I could go there if I wanted to but like I said I haven't thought about next year at all.
No Watkins Glen
Räikkönen was expected to go to the States again last weekend for the Watkins Glen's Nascar-race. Actually they tried to lure the him there very much after one Sprint Cup -driver was injured and his car was offered to Räikkönen.
– I just didn't want to go there. Besides the race was postponed by a day and I wouldn't have got here in Germany for recce then, Räikkönen said.
Turun Sanomat, Trier
-HEIKKI KULTA
http://www.ts.fi/moottoriurheilu/f1/249241.html
A small but importatnt part of the interview along with some titles were missing so I corrected the translation.
QUOTE (Wolfie)
QUOTE
Räikkönen was expected to go to the States again last weekend for the Watkins Glen's Nascar-race. Actually they tried to lure the him there very much after one Sprint Cup -driver was injured and his car was offered to Räikkönen.
– I just didn't want to go there. Besides the race was postponed by a day and I wouldn't have got here in Germany for recce then, Räikkönen said.
– I just didn't want to go there. Besides the race was postponed by a day and I wouldn't have got here in Germany for recce then, Räikkönen said.
If he knows that, he must be following the races when he's at home. Hehe.
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Ok, day one of Rallye Deutschland is over. Many incidents for many drivers, rain, wrong tyres,… And both Sebs with a huge advantage over all the others.
Not a bad pace from Räikkönen when he had a clean and quiet stage, but that happened almost only in SS4. The rest of the day was pretty chaotic for him. He’s comfortably in the points, though.
For example, he lost over a minute in SS2 because of the rain. He had to do the stage when it was raining the most and he was on hard tyres. He was the only Citroën using hard tyres. Loeb started the day with 2 hard tyres (on the left side of the car) and 2 soft tyres (on the right side of the car), and 2 spare softs. He changed the 2 hards for softs just before SS2. That was the right strategy, but Kimi didn’t do the same because he had never tested it and didn’t know how the car was going to behave when using both types of tyres at the same time. He’s still a junior.
Oh! And during the penultimate stage of the day, Kimi damaged his door. It would not close properly and would open on fast corners during the last stage of the day. He had to keep on driving and somehow try to keep the door closed at the same time.
A little proof of the door coming alive (thank you, Maili)
Tomorrow, one of the stages is the Panzerplatte, with those horrible Hinkelsteine. Fingers crossed.
I don't think I've ever seen Raikkonen talk so much about Formula 1 since he left, nor has he revealed that he watches it. He's always gone out of his way to display his disinterest. He's also not doing Rally Australia...........which is the weekend of the Italian Grandprix.
No matter how much I know that there is probably nothing going on I smell something fishy.
No matter how much I know that there is probably nothing going on I smell something fishy.
I think kimi talked about watching f1 last year,would be great to see him back in f1,i dont think there are any free seats next year
Kovalainen defends Räikkönen - takes a dig at Villeneuve
Heikki Kovalainen wonders over Jacques Villeneuve's statement where Kimi Räikkönen is stamped as a lucky champion.
Villeneuve won his own WDC in 1997, when his Williams-car was clearly the best car in the serie.
- I don't think it was civil text from Villeneuve. If you think about it the other way, then Villeneuve had quite a superior car when he won his WDC and after that he didn't make any results, Kovalainen said to MTV3.
- I don't know if the dig is taken out of context or if it went just like that. I don't know Villeneuve personally. Maybe it was a little stupid statement. You give a feeling of being a sore loser. A WDC is a WDC. They don't give out style-points in F1 so it's all the same how you win the WDC, it is always a tough thing, Kovalainen continues.
Kovalainen reminds that Räikkönen lost more than one championship during his McLaren-years due to his unreliable car.
- In Kimi's case he lost many championships because the car broke down. Kimi would certainly have two or three championships more by driving.
MTV3
Heikki Kovalainen wonders over Jacques Villeneuve's statement where Kimi Räikkönen is stamped as a lucky champion.
Villeneuve won his own WDC in 1997, when his Williams-car was clearly the best car in the serie.
- I don't think it was civil text from Villeneuve. If you think about it the other way, then Villeneuve had quite a superior car when he won his WDC and after that he didn't make any results, Kovalainen said to MTV3.
- I don't know if the dig is taken out of context or if it went just like that. I don't know Villeneuve personally. Maybe it was a little stupid statement. You give a feeling of being a sore loser. A WDC is a WDC. They don't give out style-points in F1 so it's all the same how you win the WDC, it is always a tough thing, Kovalainen continues.
Kovalainen reminds that Räikkönen lost more than one championship during his McLaren-years due to his unreliable car.
- In Kimi's case he lost many championships because the car broke down. Kimi would certainly have two or three championships more by driving.
MTV3
QUOTE (cilurnum @ Aug 20 2011, 00:49)
I don't think I've ever seen Raikkonen talk so much about Formula 1 since he left, nor has he revealed that he watches it. He's always gone out of his way to display his disinterest. He's also not doing Rally Australia...........which is the weekend of the Italian Grandprix.
No matter how much I know that there is probably nothing going on I smell something fishy.
No matter how much I know that there is probably nothing going on I smell something fishy.
I'm with Callisto there, he already talked about F1 last year, he was asked the same and he said he watched the races when he was at home.
If that's a signal for his interest for F1, what he said about the NASCAR race at Watkins Glen is also a signal of his interest for NASCAR. To know that the race had to be delayed because of the rain, he must have been following/watching the races.
And then, if you read the part about LeMans, you can come to the conclusion that he will keep on rallying with Citroen next season, since he's talking about Peugeot (he would stay in the PSA group) and possible calendar problems just to do 3 LMS races (he must plan taking part in some other competition).
No real information about his future in that piece of news (in my opinion, of course)
"Its not real racing anymore"
Couldnt agree more with Raikkönen. The way F1 rules have been changed this season, it makes me so sad. I have missed 2 races now (something I never done in the last 23 years) and I dont feel like watching anymore.
Couldnt agree more with Raikkönen. The way F1 rules have been changed this season, it makes me so sad. I have missed 2 races now (something I never done in the last 23 years) and I dont feel like watching anymore.
I don't recall Raikkonen moaning about "artificial racing" after Spa 2009, when he only won thanks to unfair KERS advantage. Hypocrite.
QUOTE (iotar @ Aug 20 2011, 10:23)
I don't recall Raikkonen moaning about "artificial racing" after Spa 2009, when he only won thanks to unfair KERS advantage. Hypocrite.
I also don’t recall him moaning when the weight of the KERS meant that his car empty with him inside was over the minimum weight, giving him an “unfair” disadvantage. If Force India didn’t have a KERS, it was their problem, nobody forbid them to have one and use it. Had they had one, they would have been allowed to use it.
What he’s saying, and not moaning, and just because he’s been asked, is that with DRS only the driver behind can use it and there’s nothing legal the car in front can do to defend himself.
QUOTE (iotar @ Aug 20 2011, 08:23)
I don't recall Raikkonen moaning about "artificial racing" after Spa 2009, when he only won thanks to unfair KERS advantage. Hypocrite.
Yea as if back then KERS was advantage!
Actually having it was disadvantage, poor weight distribution, higher cog, higher overall car weight
Ferrari and Mclaren really struggled with weight problems
BMW abandoned it mid season and williams and Honda abandoned it before the season
At spa 2009 Kimi was around 1.5 sec slower in second sector alone compared to the FI! Well having a kers is an unfair Disadvatage isn't it?
QUOTE (iotar @ Aug 20 2011, 13:53)
I don't recall Raikkonen moaning about "artificial racing" after Spa 2009, when he only won thanks to unfair KERS advantage. Hypocrite.
Seriously, some people are damn dumb as far as technology's pro's and con's goes!
You suggesting KERS was an advantage in 2009 is utterly stupid as far as logic is concerned. Clearly don't understand weight issues & distribution.
Cars without KERS had an overall advantage over cars with KERS.... for driving as well as overtaking in 2009. You think 80% of the grid, including that of the ultra fast Brawn GP didn't bother to install KERS just for fun.
Mclaren & Ferrari had the poorest car of the top runners to start the season of 2009. And guess what, they were the only ones with KERS. Wonder what coincidence led to the top two teams to have such a snail of a car. one word- KERS.
Both Mclaren & Ferrari were saved from having their most disastrous season in history thanks to two gladiator men- Hamilton & Raikkonen. They pretty much twisted the neck of their cars & registered brilliant wins.
Force India qualified on Pole, Raikkonen's Ferrari qualified 6th....
....and you would be fooling yourself to suggest Fisi got pole due to his enormous skills over Alonso, Vettel, Button, Hamilton & Raikkonen, driving at SPA without a car advantage.
QUOTE (artista @ Aug 20 2011, 08:36)
I also don’t recall him moaning when the weight of the KERS meant that his car empty with him inside was over the minimum weight, giving him an “unfair” disadvantage. If Force India didn’t have a KERS, it was their problem, nobody forbid them to have one and use it. Had they had one, they would have been allowed to use it.
What he’s saying, and not moaning, and just because he’s been asked, is that with DRS only the driver behind can use it and there’s nothing legal the car in front can do to defend himself.
What he’s saying, and not moaning, and just because he’s been asked, is that with DRS only the driver behind can use it and there’s nothing legal the car in front can do to defend himself.
I'll be brief so as not to derail this thread any further (was KERS an advantage and so on):
What I don't like and appreciate is his using the term "real racing". F1 was never (Raikkonen times) about the real sport, competition and racing. Huge difference between 2009 KERS and 2011 DRS is that some cars had it (KERS) and some didn't. That's "unfair". [BTW you know perfectly well that FI didn't choose to run without KERS. Only biggest and wealthiest F1 teams could afford to develop and implement KERS]
If he was really honest about the subject he should have said after 2009 Spa (or even now):
- I overtook many cars at the start thanks to artificial gizmo other cars didn't have (not a "real racing")
- I overtook Fisichella only thanks to artificial gizmo he didn't have (not a "real racing")
- every time he tried to overtake me I used artificial gizmo to defend myself and he couldn't do anything about it (not a "real racing")
- this victory is meaningless in terms of "real racing"
I don't recall any such comments after Spa, he didn't complain, he was perfectly glad with the state of racing. That's why now in 2011 when he's outside the F1 his words about DRS have little weight (and annoyed me enough to reply).
QUOTE (iotar @ Aug 20 2011, 11:08)
I'll be brief so as not to derail this thread any further (was KERS an advantage and so on):
What I don't like and appreciate is his using the term "real racing". F1 was never (Raikkonen times) about the real sport, competition and racing. Huge difference between 2009 KERS and 2011 DRS is that some cars had it (KERS) and some didn't. That's "unfair". [BTW you know perfectly well that FI didn't choose to run without KERS. Only biggest and wealthiest F1 teams could afford to develop and implement KERS]
If he was really honest about the subject he should have said after 2009 Spa (or even now):
- I overtook many cars at the start thanks to artificial gizmo other cars didn't have (not a "real racing")
- I overtook Fisichella only thanks to artificial gizmo he didn't have (not a "real racing")
- every time he tried to overtake me I used artificial gizmo to defend myself and he couldn't do anything about it (not a "real racing")
- this victory is meaningless in terms of "real racing"
I don't recall any such comments after Spa, he didn't complain, he was perfectly glad with the state of racing. That's why now in 2011 when he's outside the F1 his words about DRS have little weight (and annoyed me enough to reply).
What I don't like and appreciate is his using the term "real racing". F1 was never (Raikkonen times) about the real sport, competition and racing. Huge difference between 2009 KERS and 2011 DRS is that some cars had it (KERS) and some didn't. That's "unfair". [BTW you know perfectly well that FI didn't choose to run without KERS. Only biggest and wealthiest F1 teams could afford to develop and implement KERS]
If he was really honest about the subject he should have said after 2009 Spa (or even now):
- I overtook many cars at the start thanks to artificial gizmo other cars didn't have (not a "real racing")
- I overtook Fisichella only thanks to artificial gizmo he didn't have (not a "real racing")
- every time he tried to overtake me I used artificial gizmo to defend myself and he couldn't do anything about it (not a "real racing")
- this victory is meaningless in terms of "real racing"
I don't recall any such comments after Spa, he didn't complain, he was perfectly glad with the state of racing. That's why now in 2011 when he's outside the F1 his words about DRS have little weight (and annoyed me enough to reply).
True enough. I'm a bit disappointed he's talking just like any other retired driver, bitterness and fake nostalgia about the good old days [when I was still part of it] creeping in.
QUOTE (as65p @ Aug 20 2011, 10:29)
True enough. I'm a bit disappointed he's talking just like any other retired driver, bitterness and fake nostalgia about the good old days [when I was still part of it] creeping in.
Hooray, hooray, You`ve just won THE POST OF THE Month-price. Ladies and gents, we have a winner here.
One sentence, just one. And the judgement coming from our monthly winner is "retired, bitter driver"
DRS is artificial, KERS isn't, you can only use DRS when within a second of another car, the other car can't respond or anything. With KERS however, if the other car also has KERS, you don't have an advantage, as he pushes the KERS button at the same moments. In 2009 EVERYONE had the chance to use KERS, but most choose not to do so because of the problems said above, that means the KERS cars had an advantage on straights and starts, but a disadvantage everywhere else. FI did have the chance to buy KERS from other teams, but they didn't.
I also don't see the bitterness? He only states he doesn't like DRS really, well that's an opinion nearly all people here have, or are we all now bitter and retired?
I also don't see the bitterness? He only states he doesn't like DRS really, well that's an opinion nearly all people here have, or are we all now bitter and retired?
QUOTE (iotar @ Aug 20 2011, 14:38)
I'll be brief so as not to derail this thread any further (was KERS an advantage and so on):
What I don't like and appreciate is his using the term "real racing". F1 was never (Raikkonen times) about the real sport, competition and racing. Huge difference between 2009 KERS and 2011 DRS is that some cars had it (KERS) and some didn't. That's "unfair". [BTW you know perfectly well that FI didn't choose to run without KERS. Only biggest and wealthiest F1 teams could afford to develop and implement KERS]
If he was really honest about the subject he should have said after 2009 Spa (or even now):
- I overtook many cars at the start thanks to artificial gizmo other cars didn't have (not a "real racing")
- I overtook Fisichella only thanks to artificial gizmo he didn't have (not a "real racing")
- every time he tried to overtake me I used artificial gizmo to defend myself and he couldn't do anything about it (not a "real racing")
- this victory is meaningless in terms of "real racing"
I don't recall any such comments after Spa, he didn't complain, he was perfectly glad with the state of racing. That's why now in 2011 when he's outside the F1 his words about DRS have little weight (and annoyed me enough to reply).
What I don't like and appreciate is his using the term "real racing". F1 was never (Raikkonen times) about the real sport, competition and racing. Huge difference between 2009 KERS and 2011 DRS is that some cars had it (KERS) and some didn't. That's "unfair". [BTW you know perfectly well that FI didn't choose to run without KERS. Only biggest and wealthiest F1 teams could afford to develop and implement KERS]
If he was really honest about the subject he should have said after 2009 Spa (or even now):
- I overtook many cars at the start thanks to artificial gizmo other cars didn't have (not a "real racing")
- I overtook Fisichella only thanks to artificial gizmo he didn't have (not a "real racing")
- every time he tried to overtake me I used artificial gizmo to defend myself and he couldn't do anything about it (not a "real racing")
- this victory is meaningless in terms of "real racing"
I don't recall any such comments after Spa, he didn't complain, he was perfectly glad with the state of racing. That's why now in 2011 when he's outside the F1 his words about DRS have little weight (and annoyed me enough to reply).
Your whole post is a merry-go-round
Lets put it very simply and mildly for you since you want to criticize Raikkonen:-
SPA 2004- Kimi Raikkonen: Winner (Overtakes:YES - Kers:NO)
SPA 2005- Kimi Raikkonen: Winner (Overtakes:YES - Kers:NO)
SPA 2007- Kimi Raikkonen: Winner (Overtakes:YES - Kers:NO)
SPA 2008- Kimi Raikkonen: Acc/dnf(Overtakes:YES - Kers:NO)
SPA 2009- Kimi Raikkonen: Winner (Overtakes:YES - Kers:YES)
You don't become multiple SPA winner by using artificial buttons. So, now that we have established he can demolish the field with great overtakes without the use of KERS... his saying anything regarding artificial racing holds more water than what you 'think' he should say.
If you haven't noticed, he doesn't care to answer 'what you think he should have answered'!!
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