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Ali_G
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Dec 2 2009, 10:50) *
Got any evidence of that?


No I don't. But do you think one of the 4 new teams would be a more stable prospect over a team like Sauber ?

And at a time when teams are pulling out of F1, do you really want to turn down Sauber, an expierienced team on the grid ? I just hope the FIA will try as hard as they can to get them on the grid.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Ali_G @ Dec 3 2009, 01:12) *
No I don't. But do you think one of the 4 new teams would be a more stable prospect over a team like Sauber ?

And at a time when teams are pulling out of F1, do you really want to turn down Sauber, an expierienced team on the grid ? I just hope the FIA will try as hard as they can to get them on the grid.

I want to see Sauber, but I think it's far more likely they will join in the place of Stefan than of one of the other new teams.
juary
Sauber upbeat regarding F1 entry

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...203100502.shtml
Captain Tightpants
*sigh*

Just hurry up and make a decision, guys ...
One
Toyota has given back its entry to FIA.

http://translate.google.nl/translate?js=y&...sl=de&tl=en


Since Toyota has already completed its launch site, Stefanovic would have to apply separately to the FIA, which has little chance of success



...


This could mean that we hear coming monday about Sauber's entry.
highdownforce
Good news for Sauber!

Toyota not planning to sell F1 entry(Autosport)
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Toyota has relinquished its F1 entry and has no intention of trying to sell it, AUTOSPORT has learned, [...]

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However, high level sources at Toyota have dismissed any talk that Toyota is trying to get itself involved in the entry selection process [...]

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AUTOSPORT understands Sauber has been assured it will get the final slot on the grid instead.

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The Toyota source said: "We have returned our entry to the FIA and have no intention or wish to influence or interfere in the allocation process. That is a matter for the Federation. We are discussing a settlement with Bernie on the basis of goodwill and what is acceptable to all parties."

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"We have offered the IP of our 2010 car for a nominal fee to some of the new entrants but none have accepted," said the source. "We have interest from Stefan GP but it is not clear if they will receive an entry or not."
Clatter
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Dec 3 2009, 12:34) *
Good news for Sauber!

Toyota not planning to sell F1 entry(Autosport)


I'd like to know when those statements were made as they look like a rehash of statements that were made a while ago.
highdownforce
QUOTE (Clatter @ Dec 3 2009, 11:44) *
I'd like to know when those statements were made as they look like a rehash of statements that were made a while ago.

No idea, but the "AUTOSPORT has learned" bit implies that Autosport had directly contacted Toyota or had access to an insider source recently.
Edit: I think...
wingwalker
QUOTE (Clatter @ Dec 3 2009, 14:44) *
I'd like to know when those statements were made as they look like a rehash of statements that were made a while ago.



Really? I might have missed it, but this:

"We have returned our entry to the FIA and have no intention or wish to influence or interfere in the allocation process. That is a matter for the Federation.

Sounds like news to me.
Clatter
QUOTE (wingwalker @ Dec 3 2009, 13:49) *
Really? I might have missed it, but this:

"We have returned our entry to the FIA and have no intention or wish to influence or interfere in the allocation process. That is a matter for the Federation.

Sounds like news to me.


I'm sure there was a similar statement a few weeks ago, but can't find where I saw it.
Rob
I'm baffled at Toyota not wanting to sell the team. You'd think that they'd like to make at least a token return on their investment.

Still, at the same time, it secures the future of Sauber, which I am pleased about.
Clatter
QUOTE (Rob @ Dec 3 2009, 13:53) *
I'm baffled at Toyota not wanting to sell the team. You'd think that they'd like to make at least a token return on their investment.

Still, at the same time, it secures the future of Sauber, which I am pleased about.


Perhaps if their F1 operation were completely seperate to some of their other activities they might have, but as it's all housed under one roof all they could effectively sell off is their entry, and I'm not sure if thats allowed.
metz
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80429

Sauber secures an entry.
We all knew it, just not how or when.
Better sooner than later.
Now Peter can get his sponsors and sign Nick.
Huge sigh of relief at Hinwil.
Enthusiastic engineers produce better cars... up.gif
glorius&victorius
FANTASTIC NEWS! PETER SAUBER = HERO
highdownforce
Finally!
sumpthy
Great news. Lets hope Sauber can be competitive and get at least a strong midfield position this year.
highdownforce
So... Do you guys think that Heidfeld'd be interested?
Sakae
Congratulation to Mr. Sauber and his team, because if anyone deserves the slot, in my book, he is the one.
Victor_RO
This is probably one of the best bits of news I've heard in F1 recently. Welcome back Sauber. smile.gif
Misk
The FIA statment - http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressrele.../f1_sauber.aspx
Woop!
depailler on tyrrell p34
I'm so happy with this news!!!!

heidfeld and fisichella the drivers?
metz
Petronas sponsorship?
sumpthy
Heidfeld will probably wait on Mercedes to make a decision on their drivers before sticking with the team. Why is the FIA still referring to them as BMW Sauber?
craftverk
Ah Sauber, how we have missed that name. Great news. up.gif
robracer
QUOTE (craftverk @ Dec 3 2009, 16:59) *
Ah Sauber, how we have missed that name. Great news. up.gif


The Sauber name never left, it just had BMW in front of it. Great news that they will race next year. clap.gif
kNt
clap.gif Finally.
maccaFTW
QUOTE (depailler on tyrrell p34 @ Dec 3 2009, 11:57) *
I'm so happy with this news!!!!

heidfeld and fisichella the drivers?


I'd put money on that pairing. Heidfeld isn't going to wait around forever for Merc to make its choice, and he firmly has a home at Sauber. But he better be on it next season, because anyone who puts 2+2 together realizes that if Bianchi continues down his Hamilton/Hulkenberg path, Ferrari will want to put him in a seat in 2011.

This was clearly the right thing for the FIA to do. Justice is served to a whole host of nice guys and class acts.
Mungo Fangio of the Year
Ferrari powered? If so, I'd get seat FAST as Nick!
highdownforce
QUOTE (sumpthy @ Dec 3 2009, 14:59) *
Why is the FIA still referring to them as BMW Sauber?

Because they are still being BMW-Sauber for today.
sumpthy
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Dec 3 2009, 17:06) *
Because they are still being BMW-Sauber for today.

Ah right. I thought they would have dropped the BMW name seeing as this is a completely new entry. I guess they're just doing what Brawn is doing and lodging a name change request.
robracer
I don't think Sauber will have both Heidfeld and Fisichella, they proberly need a pay driver.

Rumors suggest that Petrov will be the pay driver alongside de la Rosa.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/155070/1/seve...rov_tipped.html
highdownforce
QUOTE (sumpthy @ Dec 3 2009, 15:08) *
Ah right. I thought they would have dropped the BMW name seeing as this is a completely new entry. I guess they're just doing what Brawn is doing and lodging a name change request.

Not exactly, AFAIK, they still have to sign the CA and they will be a new entry.
But the transfer of BMW's shares to Sauber would only take place after FIA had confirmed the grid slot.
craftverk
QUOTE (robracer @ Dec 3 2009, 17:01) *
The Sauber name never left, it just had BMW in front of it. Great news that they will race next year. clap.gif

It was tainted by BMW cool.gif It's the privateer again clap.gif
Mungo Fangio of the Year
QUOTE (robracer @ Dec 3 2009, 19:09) *
I don't think Sauber will have both Heidfeld and Fisichella, they proberly need a pay driver.

Rumors suggest that Petrov will be the pay driver alongside de la Rosa.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/155070/1/seve...rov_tipped.html



That is propably the most stupid rumor I've heard since all your Kimi blathering! roflmao.gif
Pedro and Petrov to drive Sauber? Will it be powered by Lada?
robracer
QUOTE (Mungo Fangio of the Year @ Dec 3 2009, 17:15) *
That is propably the most stupid rumor I've heard since all your Kimi blathering! roflmao.gif
Pedro and Petrov to drive Sauber? Will it be powered by Lada?


Why is it stupid? confused.gif
The article mentions 7 drivers in total, it could be any 2 of them or even somebody else. All of them are good enough to warrent a drive at Sauber.
Mungo Fangio of the Year
QUOTE (robracer @ Dec 3 2009, 19:19) *
Why is it stupid? confused.gif
The article mentions 7 drivers in total, it could be any 2 of them or even somebody else. All of them are good enough to warrent a drive at Sauber.



I agree, any of the 7 could drive Sauber 2010, but your combination would be stupid,
and stupid Peter Sauber is not!
robracer
QUOTE (Mungo Fangio of the Year @ Dec 3 2009, 17:20) *
I agree, any of the 7 could drive Sauber 2010, but your combination would be stupid,
and stupid Peter Sauber is not!


It isn't my combination, it is that websites combination.
Mungo Fangio of the Year
QUOTE (robracer @ Dec 3 2009, 19:27) *
It isn't my combination, it is that websites combination.



That website has no concept of F1 then.
sumpthy
I can see Petrov and Fisichella being the best option all things considered if Heidfeld goes to Mercedes due to Petrov's sponsorship money. I don't know how much truth there is to the Kobayashi/Panasonic link up 'cos last I heard Toyota were offering Kobayashi as part of their TF110 sale.
Mungo Fangio of the Year
QUOTE (sumpthy @ Dec 3 2009, 19:33) *
I can see Petrov and Fisichella being the best option all things considered if Heidfeld goes to Mercedes due to Petrov's sponsorship money. I don't know how much truth there is to the Kobayashi/Panasonic link up 'cos last I heard Toyota were offering Kobayashi as part of their TF110 sale.



This driver pairing is more propable.
BullHead
Just got home, read the news. Nice one Peter. That guy really has dedication and determination for his "baby". up.gif
D.M.N.
Great news. Glad to see the Sauber name on its own back on the grid. up.gif
Clatter
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Dec 3 2009, 16:39) *
So... Do you guys think that Heidfeld'd be interested?


There doesn't seem to be many other offers coming his way. I know there is the Merc rumour, but he is very much at the bottom of their list.
Heasven
Peter Sauber up.gif
Mungo Fangio of the Year
So, will it be:

Nick and Petrov?
Nick and Fisi?
Fisi and Petrov?
Nick and Heikki?

Wow, combinations...


BTW, if Nick goes to Merc and Renault goes to Prodrive:
Robert and Petrov?
...

Clatter
QUOTE (robracer @ Dec 3 2009, 17:09) *
I don't think Sauber will have both Heidfeld and Fisichella, they proberly need a pay driver.


Fisi would be a pay driver. He would likely come as part of the engine deal, but with proviso that he is released to Ferrari if they need the 3rd driver.
wingwalker
**** YES, <high fives everyone>. Best F1-related news in quite a time.
Tufty
QUOTE (Clatter @ Dec 3 2009, 17:43) *
There doesn't seem to be many other offers coming his way. I know there is the Merc rumour, but he is very much at the bottom of their list.

There's rumours galore on another forum, that Renault have sold out to ProDrive.

So it could well be that Kubica will be in the Merc next year.
Mungo Fangio of the Year
QUOTE (Clatter @ Dec 3 2009, 19:48) *
Fisi would be a pay driver. He would likely come as part of the engine deal, but with proviso that he is released to Ferrari if they need the 3rd driver.



Sauber does need Ferrari engine to be a team to be taken seriously.
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