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WonderboyF1
I hope its similar to that, because thats a sexy car! I feel as if we are being denied a true silver arrow, with the Petronas branding, we will see soon enough though!
r4mses
Petronas never had their corporate colours while being BMW's partner, I hope they wont change that at Mercedes... that turquoise is just ugly :x
Captain Tightpants
I don't know ... it's the turquoise-and-silver mock-up that has people in a flurry. I actually think something like this would look really good.

I also found this image of a PETRONAS single-seater:

Nuvol
oh dear, please no. The less colour of petronas the better.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Nuvol @ Jan 15 2010, 13:03) *
oh dear, pleas no. The less colour of petronas the better.

I'd rather see a turquoise/grey car than another blue-and-white design. Besides, McLaren will be using silver - and Campos are said to be kicking the idea around as a team colour to offset the colour of their main sponsor - which is going to make things ridiculously stupid if Mercedes do, too. We've already seen how difficult it can be to tell a Toro Rosso and a Red Bull apart, and they were at opposite ends of the grid. Imagine what it would be like if you've got four cars at the front of the grid and they're all pretty much the same colour.
V8 Fireworks
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Jan 15 2010, 02:06) *
I'd rather see a turquoise/grey car than another blue-and-white design. Besides, McLaren will be using silver - and Campos are said to be kicking the idea around as a team colour to offset the colour of their main sponsor - which is going to make things ridiculously stupid if Mercedes do, too. We've already seen how difficult it can be to tell a Toro Rosso and a Red Bull apart, and they were at opposite ends of the grid. Imagine what it would be like if you've got four cars at the front of the grid and they're all pretty much the same colour.


But Mercedes IS the bland silver expensive camry mass producing corporation, why other colour can it be! eek.gif
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (V8 Fireworks @ Jan 15 2010, 13:09) *
But Mercedes IS the bland silver expensive camry mass producing corporation, why other colour can it be! eek.gif

Sonsor colours. Everyone else does it.
DaleCooper
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Jan 15 2010, 04:45) *
Sonsor colours. Everyone else does it.



So why was McLaren predominantly Silver? My guess is they will be less so next year, and Mercedes will take over that look.


Cooper
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (DaleCooper @ Jan 15 2010, 14:22) *
So why was McLaren predominantly Silver? My guess is they will be less so next year, and Mercedes will take over that look.

Mercedes will do it eventually, or so I hope. They might have a little bit of silver thi year, but too much and it can get confusing. I wouldn't mind them running turquoise-and-white for a while and eventually changing the turquoise to silver as McLaren phase their chrome out.
rodlamas
Is the 25th of January confirmed as a launch date or is it still speculation?
Captain Tightpants
Speculation, if it can be called that. I'd say the date was the result of some over-zealous soul wanting Mercedes to have the first launch. F1 Fanatic lists their release date as February 1st, before the car takes to the circuit for the first time.
Timstr11
QUOTE (rodlamas @ Jan 15 2010, 10:34) *
Is the 25th of January confirmed as a launch date or is it still speculation?

The 25 January Mercedes Stuttgart Museum date was reported by BILD, who are known to be the favourite medium for Mercedes to leak to.
However, not confirmed or denied by Mercedes GP.
Galko877
It's official: Mercedes launch in Stuttgart on the 25th of January: http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news/20...t_10011510.html
Timstr11
Only the BGP 001 will be at the team launch on 25 January, to introduce the new livery.

The new car will be seen for the first time in Valencia on 1 February.
aeffle
QUOTE (Galko877 @ Jan 15 2010, 17:54) *
It's official: Mercedes launch in Stuttgart on the 25th of January: http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news/20...t_10011510.html


Unfortunately they won't present the new car in Suttgart - only the new livery. ohwell.gif

But it's okay - we'll survive the few days till the first roll out. wink.gif
Galko877
QUOTE (Timstr11 @ Jan 15 2010, 20:21) *
Only the BGP 001 will be at the team launch on 25 January, to introduce the new livery.

The new car will be seen for the first time in Valencia on 1 February.



Oh sorry, I missed that.
MS7XWDC

"Mercedes Grand Prix will be the first Formula 1 team to reveal its 2010 livery. The German car manufacturer will reveal next year's livery to its invited guests and media on 25th January in the Mercedes museum in Stuttgart, Germany. The team's new car will be unveiled in Valencia on 1st February. "

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-news/2...y-in-stuttgart/
Hypnotise
Awesume hope the livery will be the next best after Mclaren ofc
Timstr11
MIG/Brawn commercial (released last week):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7BwRVx_hnU

Also see the Making of TV Commercial (right-hand menu):
http://www.migbank.com/commercials/mig_videoplayer.swf



Anomnader
Mercedes not exactly soothing fears of Rosberg being a no2.
GiuseppeF1
The more I think of it, the more the 'RB1' name designation for the new Mercedes chassis is STILL A COMPLETELY STUPID IDEA and I am kinda shocked at Mercedes-Benz who are usually very careful to harness and promote their history, prestige and brand image.

Every single press release since the new team was announced, be it from Haug, Zeutsche, or the drivers Schuey and Rosberg....every press release has made specific mention to the term 'Silver Arrows'.

The McLaren-Mercedes' have essentially been Silver Arrows' since 1997 and in those 15 or so years, Mercedes havent really done much specific marketing activity mentioning McLaren as a Silver Arrow in press releases etc.

The fact this time round there is always mention of 'Silver Arrows' at every opportunity suggests this is all being carefully co-ordinated up to the launch of the car and the new team which will of course be held at the Mercedes Museum in Stuttgart, home of where all the legendary 'Silver Arrows' are housed.......so, why call the car at RB1 in deference to Ross Brawn and not call it the 'W' something as in all the historic Silver Arrows??

As much as I love and respect Ross, he wont be around at the team forever and if the Mercedes team want to further harness their Silver Arrows bloodline in the decades to come, then dont already name it something which will inevitable have to be renamed somewhere down the line and so ruin the continuity of that bloodline. They are wiping out a great opportunity to tap into all that hard-established history.

Mercedes are much more smart on image than this usually so I can only think that they are calling the 2010 car a RB1 as it was still in effective conceived as a 'Brawn' before Mercedes bought in, and from 2011, when we have the first REAL Mercedes car penned under Mercedes ownership, we will ho to having the W designation again........hopefully
Raincoat
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Jan 17 2010, 16:09) *
Mercedes not exactly soothing fears of Rosberg being a no2.



He had the chance to come to McLaren but he lacked the guts to face Lewis. Now he is going to be an official Number 2. No ifs or buts. He is going to be another Massa. roflmao.gif
The Ragged Edge
QUOTE (Raincoat @ Jan 17 2010, 18:06) *
He had the chance to come to McLaren but he lacked the guts to face Lewis. Now he is going to be an official Number 2. No ifs or buts. He is going to be another Massa. roflmao.gif


Unless Rosberg shows the speed to be on par and at times faster than Schumi, then he is destined for #2 status. F1 is a results business, perform and your stock rises, lose to your team mate and you are yesterdays man. This is the challenge Rosberg must face and succeed in, if he is to be viewed as a #1 driver. He cannot have a better barometer for his true skills and talent, than being team mate to Schumacher. Rosberg will either succeed or wilt. IMO I believe its the latter. and he will wilt.
Fortymark
QUOTE (The Ragged Edge @ Jan 17 2010, 20:47) *
Unless Rosberg shows the speed to be on par and at times faster than Schumi, then he is destined for #2 status. F1 is a results business, perform and your stock rises, lose to your team mate and you are yesterdays man. This is the challenge Rosberg must face and succeed in, if he is to be viewed as a #1 driver. He cannot have a better barometer for his true skills and talent, than being team mate to Schumacher. Rosberg will either succeed or wilt. IMO I believe its the latter. and he will wilt.


Man, I knew this was coming.

Why the hell did I start that other thread, what was I thinking?!
Schumacher + Brawn + equal status = roflmao.gif
THE "driverider"
That's stupid, Red Bull name their cars RB# how silly by Mercedes.
Fortymark
yeah, why not MB1? Like in Mercedes Benz 1, it could also include Brawn
as in the "B"

confused.gif
pingu666
what was last years brawn car called?
Raincoat
Hang on a minute they own 75% of the sake! Its ridiculous to think they can just erase RB when he and other own the other 25% of the stake. Until Merc buy the remainder they cant and wont remove the RB1.
Group B
QUOTE (Raincoat @ Jan 17 2010, 18:06) *
He had the chance to come to McLaren but he lacked the guts to face Lewis. Now he is going to be an official Number 2. No ifs or buts. He is going to be another Massa. roflmao.gif

Why would they make anyone #2 without waiting to see who's faster? confused.gif
Anomnader
QUOTE (Raincoat @ Jan 17 2010, 19:49) *
Hang on a minute they own 75% of the sake! Its ridiculous to think they can just erase RB when he and other own the other 25% of the stake. Until Merc buy the remainder they cant and wont remove the RB1.


Not really, I'm sure owning 75% gives them controlling interest.
jjcale
Probably the same reason they announced their launch for 25 January (so Macca cant lunch the MP4-25 on that date) then later annouce that its just a "livery launch" using the last year's car with the real car being launched at a later date.....

ForeverF1
Maybe, after this coming season, they will change it. After all, this season's car was designed under the auspices of Ross Brawn and not Mercedes.
jjcale
QUOTE (Timstr11 @ Jan 16 2010, 15:43) *
MIG/Brawn commercial (released last week):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7BwRVx_hnU

Also see the Making of TV Commercial (right-hand menu):
http://www.migbank.com/commercials/mig_videoplayer.swf


Do they really expect us to believe that Ross day trades in his spare time... drunk.gif
TheF1PERSON
Why not just keep it as BGP-002?
Clatter
Why is anyone worried what it is called?
dank
QUOTE (Clatter @ Jan 17 2010, 20:28) *
Why is anyone worried what it is called?


Because er, because... no, can't think of a good reason.

It's not like we're suddenly going to think it's 2005 again because Jonathan Legard or Martin Brundle makes reference to 'the RB1' on track this season is it?
Fortymark
QUOTE (Clatter @ Jan 17 2010, 22:28) *
Why is anyone worried what it is called?


I dunno, maybe because it´s easier for the fans when
we talk about a certain car?
I know a McLaren is a MP4/something. a Williams is FWsomething etc etc.
MadYarpen
f**k, RB can stand as well for retarded being, why would anyone care? Cars' codenames dont appear in media too often, so no big deal really.
sumpthy
Surely there's rules about this, RB1 was Red Bull's 2005 car after all
Raincoat
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Jan 17 2010, 19:50) *
Not really, I'm sure owning 75% gives them controlling interest.



You mean like how McLarens offical name was Vodafone McLaren Mercedes? Tell me who much stake Vodafone had? You dont think Brawn would asked for his name to retained? You seem to forget Merc approached Brawn. RB had the upper hand.
Raincoat
QUOTE (Group B @ Jan 17 2010, 19:49) *
Why would they make anyone #2 without waiting to see who's faster? confused.gif



You think Brawn is going to tell Schumi to play supporting role to Nico? roflmao.gif Even if Nico is faster Brawn would do everything to make sure Schumi's car has the edge. He did not bring or pay Schumi back to F1 to humiliate him nor pay him more than Nico. This is going to remind me of Lance Armstrong's come back. One thing I am sure of Nico would destroy Schumi and I am going to love ever second of it.
Melbourne Park
I hadn't realised how big Ross Brawn's ego has gotten ... shame.

Don_Humpador
QUOTE (dank @ Jan 17 2010, 20:36) *
It's not like we're suddenly going to think it's 2005 again because Jonathan Legard or Martin Brundle makes reference to 'the RB1' on track this season is it?


Exactly.
Seanspeed
QUOTE (dank @ Jan 17 2010, 15:36) *
It's not like we're suddenly going to think it's 2005 again because Jonathan Legard or Martin Brundle makes reference to 'the RB1' on track this season is it?

No, but its gotta be a bit confusing for casual viewers, dont ya think?

Just cuz all of us pay attention to the specific names of each car year in and year out doesn't mean that most viewers do.

I know if I wasn't a diehard F1 fan, and I heard, "RB1", I would sure as hell assume they're talking about a Red Bull car.
PNSD
QUOTE (Melbourne Park @ Jan 17 2010, 22:51) *
I hadn't realised how big Ross Brawn's ego has gotten ... shame.


And what of Williams? Prost?

Brawn disliked the fact the team was named after him!!
Don_Humpador
QUOTE (Seanspeed @ Jan 17 2010, 22:56) *
No, but its gotta be a bit confusing for casual viewers, dont ya think?

Just cuz all of us pay attention to the specific names of each car year in and year out doesn't mean that most viewers do.

I know if I wasn't a diehard F1 fan, and I heard, "RB1", I would sure as hell assume they're talking about a Red Bull car.


Well then any commentator with half a brain won't use the term "RB1", or make it a bit clearer, like saying, "Here's the RB1, confusingly, the Mercedes car!"
BPS
I think to show Rubens Barrichello some appreciation for what he has done for Ross Brawn and Michael Schumacher in the past. clap.gif
Captain Tightpants
For all we know, the "RB1" could only be half the car's designation. It could be the "M-RB1" for "Mercedes-Ross Brawn1" or the "W-RB1". I mean, what was the source that first ran the story that the car would be the "RB1" in the first place? Is it even reliable?
Xaus
QUOTE (Melbourne Park @ Jan 17 2010, 17:51) *
I hadn't realised how big Ross Brawn's ego has gotten ... shame.

I guess you think the same of Frank Williams? Alain Prost? Jackie Stewart?
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Melbourne Park @ Jan 18 2010, 09:51) *
I hadn't realised how big Ross Brawn's ego has gotten ... shame.

The car might be named after Ross Brawn, but who said Ross Brawn named it? I actually suspect it's Mercedes' way of showing that they haven't forgotten that they've purchased his team, that the team hasn't forgotten that they are the reigning World Constructors' Champions and that one of their (old) drivers became World Drivers' Champion.
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