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werks prototype
QUOTE (GoonerLewis @ Feb 22 2010, 22:55) *
Why does lewis change his gears down like that??



That's just the McLaren gear box. It is a biter. If you go back over the footage of the past few tests you will hear Jenson doing the same. You can pick out the McLaren really easily even when it is off camera going down through the gears. It's quite a unique sound.
mclarensmps
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Feb 22 2010, 17:48) *
I'd kill to see a picture of the tank in MTC.


Haven't you seen the lake the factory is built around? lol.giflol.gif

You never know tongue.gif
werks prototype
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Feb 22 2010, 22:58) *
Quick. Get back on topic before a moderator tells us off.



Yep, don't feed the mods up.gif smile.gif
werks prototype
QUOTE (The Big Guns @ Feb 22 2010, 23:04) *
Haven't you seen the lake the factory is built around? lol.giflol.gif

You never know tongue.gif


smile.gif True.

That lake is actually effectively the heat sink for the cooling of the wind tunnel. 'A reason for everything'!
Bonaventura
QUOTE (The Big Guns @ Feb 23 2010, 00:04) *
Haven't you seen the lake the factory is built around? lol.giflol.gif

You never know tongue.gif

It's not a (the) real factory... wink.gif
Sus
QUOTE (jesee @ Feb 22 2010, 22:15) *
Hey, the sky has been gloomy, the nights have been long and the cold has been bitter. Here there is a good freshly dug gem to remind us of the good days of last year and hopefully the bright future which lies ahead!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFl5xxNybZY

Long live McLaren!


The gear changes sounded quite musical. Lewis was enjoying that lap.
Clatter
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Feb 22 2010, 22:58) *
Quick. Get back on topic before a moderator tells us off.


roflmao.gif roflmao.gif

Hope no one reports you.
Clatter
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Feb 22 2010, 23:03) *
That's just the McLaren gear box. It is a biter. If you go back over the footage of the past few tests you will hear Jenson doing the same. You can pick out the McLaren really easily even when it is off camera going down through the gears. It's quite a unique sound.


KERS may have played a part last year as well.
raiseyourfistfor
QUOTE (Seanspeed @ Feb 22 2010, 18:18) *
They are not illegal.

For one, the teams can run whatever they like(within reason) during tests.

Two, I'll take an expert's opinion on its legality(Scarbs, in this case) over an everyday armchair critic.

Three, there's no way on earth Ferrari would run something that is so blatantly out of the rules unless there was a grey area somewhere(in which case, neither you, nor I would be in a qualified position to debate the details), or they were using the current system as an interim solution.

Four, no teams and no respected publications are raising any sort of fuss over it. When there's something being run by the opposition(especially something like this, which is designed specifically to be used in races) thats clearly different than how they've interpreted a rule, then there's *always* fuss.

Perhaps Ferrari are just idiots, though. Perhaps they've just not read the regulations, and will have to concede that they're following the direction of various forumer's and daytime talkshow host's advice on how to build an F1 car. After all, they are just a bunch of ignorant Italians, right?


Or they know that the FIA will support them no matter what so they can run whatever they want.
craftverk
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Feb 22 2010, 23:18) *
Or they know that the FIA will support them no matter what so they can run whatever they want.

good job on ruining the thread
raiseyourfistfor
QUOTE (craftverk @ Feb 22 2010, 19:26) *
good job on ruining the thread


I'm actually talking about something that concerns McLaren unlike you.
mclarensmps
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Feb 22 2010, 19:05) *
I'm actually talking about something that concerns McLaren unlike you.


But this thread is not the place to be discussing conspiracy theories...
Frog818
I just want to say good luck to all the McLaren supporters for the season ahead. If Mark Webber wasn't in a competitive car I would be definitely cheering Lewis on for WDC.

I haven't really looked into it that much, but the MP4-25 looks really competitive.

You haven't got a chance against the RB6 mind you but good luck to you anyway lol ;)
Raincoat
QUOTE (Frog818 @ Feb 23 2010, 12:36) *
I just want to say good luck to all the McLaren supporters for the season ahead. If Mark Webber wasn't in a completive car I would be definitely cheering Lewis on for WDC.

I haven't really looked into it that much, but the MP4-25 looks really competitive.

You haven't got a chance against the RB6 mind you but good luck to you anyway lol ;)


wave.gif


I hope you come back to admit you were wrong. lol.gif
Mr.Fiasco
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Feb 23 2010, 00:58) *
Quick. Get back on topic before a moderator tells us off.


How did you become a moderator? And what doest it take to be one? Just been really curious about it for a while and thought now would be a good time to ask.. biggrin.gif

Sorry for off-topic Mclaren supporters wave.gif
GoonerLewis
QUOTE (Mr.Fiasco @ Feb 23 2010, 15:41) *
How did you become a moderator? And what doest it take to be one? Just been really curious about it for a while and thought now would be a good time to ask.. biggrin.gif

Sorry for off-topic Mclaren supporters wave.gif



You have to support Lewis Hamilton and then there is a waiting list of 5 years.
mstar
James, whats the process to be a moderator?
Ruud de la Rosa
QUOTE (Mr.Fiasco @ Feb 23 2010, 16:41) *
How did you become a moderator? And what doest it take to be one? Just been really curious about it for a while and thought now would be a good time to ask.. biggrin.gif

Sorry for off-topic Mclaren supporters wave.gif

Once in a while they ask who wants to be one and pick from the applicants.
mclarensmps
They had moderator positions opened up some months back, and interested parties applied. There was a thorough screening process, and then a few good people were selected. This really isn't the place to be discussing this stuff tongue.gif
Buttoneer
This is properly off topic but just to clarify; I didn't apply I was asked, and that's true of at least one other. If you want to find out more, PM me.
SNiko
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic...&start=1380

QUOTE
My person at the MTC has heard a new aero package, as suggested by many on here for next test.

Also another sighting of the more cylindrical engine cover/fin that they have seen quite a few times since mid last year now. Has no clues if it is part of a package that will end up on the car.

Also no mention of cooling problems. Generally seem cautiously pleased with the 25 so far.
bogi
QUOTE (SNiko @ Feb 23 2010, 23:25) *
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic...&start=1380

QUOTE
My person at the MTC has heard a new aero package, as suggested by many on here for next test.

Also another sighting of the more cylindrical engine cover/fin that they have seen quite a few times since mid last year now. Has no clues if it is part of a package that will end up on the car.

Also no mention of cooling problems. Generally seem cautiously pleased with the 25 so far.



BS of the year

This is actually from the McLaren site:

QUOTE
The team decamps to Barcelona next week for the fourth and final test of the winter. Both drivers will spend alternate days in the car evaluating the new bodywork and aerodynamic components ahead of the season-opener in Bahrain on March 14.


http://www.mclaren.com/f1season/jerez-feb-20-2010.php

Maybe that ''insider'' read testing reports.
OwenC93
Yes but we didn't know about the more cylindrical engine cover....BTW what is is that?
FSLIV
Does anyone know if the teams have been allowed to improve their brakes in light of the heavier cars??
GoonerLewis
QUOTE (FSLIV @ Feb 24 2010, 13:25) *
Does anyone know if the teams have been allowed to improve their brakes in light of the heavier cars??


Teams can improve whatever they want on the brakes as long as it sticks to the regulations, Brake pad width is still the same as last year so this won't be changing which is a bit strange due to the amount of fuel onboard and the effect of this but we won't go into that again.
FSLIV
QUOTE (GoonerLewis @ Feb 24 2010, 08:31) *
Teams can improve whatever they want on the brakes as long as it sticks to the regulations, Brake pad width is still the same as last year so this won't be changing which is a bit strange due to the amount of fuel onboard and the effect of this but we won't go into that again.


Thanks
mel
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Feb 23 2010, 16:54) *
This is properly off topic but just to clarify; I didn't apply I was asked, and that's true of at least one other. If you want to find out more, PM me.


Actually, PM me. wave.gif
Buttoneer
Indeed so. mel wears the trousers backstage.

I'll get back to my chores now...
brett_sequeira
i sometimes feel we mclaren fans like to have the longest thread. that said i cant wait for teh start of the season, i dont know if mcalren are the fastest but this year at least we don't have the silver mule
H0R
QUOTE (brett_sequeira @ Feb 24 2010, 17:47) *
i sometimes feel we mclaren fans like to have the longest thread. that said i cant wait for teh start of the season, i dont know if mcalren are the fastest but this year at least we don't have the silver mule


Sure we do. We are an eceptionally well mannered bunch of people, but we are elso exceptionally vain.
If we can't beat Ferrari/Brawn/Renault/Tyrell/Brabham on track, we will still beat 'em on post count!
Xaus
QUOTE (mstar @ Feb 23 2010, 11:08) *
James, whats the process to be a moderator?

I imagine you first need the willpower and self-discipline to not pull the trigger when you inevitability put that gun to your head after only 15 minutes of reading these forums as a mod.
Talryyn
QUOTE (H0R @ Feb 24 2010, 13:10) *
Sure we do. We are an eceptionally well mannered bunch of people, but we are elso exceptionally vain.
If we can't beat Ferrari/Brawn/Renault/Tyrell/Brabham on track, we will still beat 'em on post count!

Yep but the defunct USF1 team might actually pass this thread, only thing they will ever pass at this point..wink.gif
werks prototype
QUOTE (OwenC93 @ Feb 23 2010, 23:53) *
Yes but we didn't know about the more cylindrical engine cover....BTW what is is that?


The rumour that the rear of the car is to become progressively cylindrical as it is developed emerged about a month ago. It is probably likely to involve a refining of the 'hump'.



However it would certainly put the cat amongst the 'speculating' pigeons if instead it were this area which became more cylindrical.

Talryyn
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Feb 24 2010, 17:20) *
The rumour that the rear of the car is to become progressively cylindrical as it is developed emerged about a month ago. It is probably likely to involve a refining of the 'hump'.



However it would certainly put the cat amongst the 'speculating' pigeons if instead it were this area which became more cylindrical.


The top looks wider and flatter as well, have to see what it looks like tomorrow for sure.
bogi
We will see new barge boards and side pod shields tomorrow probably. Engine cover, diffuser and front wing are developed enough...
OwenC93
Cheers for that Werks. smile.gif
undersquare
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Feb 24 2010, 23:20) *
The rumour that the rear of the car is to become progressively cylindrical as it is developed emerged about a month ago. It is probably likely to involve a refining of the 'hump'.

However it would certainly put the cat amongst the 'speculating' pigeons if instead it were this area which became more cylindrical.


More rocket-shaped, is what you're saying...
slideways
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Feb 25 2010, 09:50) *
However it would certainly put the cat amongst the 'speculating' pigeons if instead it were this area which became more cylindrical.



Scarbs has been speculating about blown rear wings for quite a while now, I'm sure it's been brought up here already, but they are funneling air through the intake and the top of the engine cover to the rear wing.
Lazarus II
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Feb 24 2010, 18:20) *
However it would certainly put the cat amongst the 'speculating' pigeons if instead it were this area which became more cylindrical.


Lewis is pregnant confused.gif .....but I thought Lewis was a 'he' confused.gif
mclarensmps
QUOTE (slideways @ Feb 24 2010, 19:55) *
Scarbs has been speculating about blown rear wings for quite a while now, I'm sure it's been brought up here already, but they are funneling air through the intake and the top of the engine cover to the rear wing.


Really??? I never knew!
Guizotia
QUOTE (slideways @ Feb 25 2010, 00:55) *
Scarbs has been speculating about blown rear wings for quite a while now, I'm sure it's been brought up here already, but they are funneling air through the intake and the top of the engine cover to the rear wing.


I've said before. I have only seen one blog post on this subject from Scarbs, and he was summarising what was being said in forums, not putting it forward as something he thought was happening or even likely. He described it as an "unproven theory".
raiseyourfistfor
Any pictures of the updates?
Raziel
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Feb 25 2010, 09:42) *
Any pictures of the updates?


It´s too early smile.gif
argiriano
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Feb 25 2010, 10:42) *
Any pictures of the updates?

08:53 Button's McLaren is still having transponder issues and his times are not being recorded drunk.gif
Raincoat
QUOTE (Raziel @ Feb 25 2010, 08:43) *
It´s too early smile.gif



I was told by someone we should expect a new wing. We shall see
argiriano
08:58 It appears that Button's timing problems have been solved, as the Briton is now fourth in the timesheet smile.gif

From the picture of Autosport Live coverage it looks like Janson drive with some measuring device at the rear wing... interesting.
aditya-now
QUOTE (argiriano @ Feb 25 2010, 10:02) *
08:58 It appears that Button's timing problems have been solved, as the Briton is now fourth in the timesheet smile.gif

From the picture of Autosport Live coverage it looks like Janson drive with some measuring device at the rear wing... interesting.


Ouch! Red Bull look good with their new car, McLaren will have a hard time catching up tongue.gif
moredeep
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Feb 25 2010, 08:20) *

A little off-topic but that shark-fin looks, to me, a lot like:


Or maybe I'm just a little strange
aditya-now
QUOTE (moredeep @ Feb 25 2010, 10:13) *
A little off-topic but that shark-fin looks, to me, a lot like:


Or maybe I'm just a little strange


There is a reason why McLaren is regarded by many as the dark side. Sorry for you grey people. lol.gif
argiriano
here it is - another measuring device at the back of the McLaren

from GPupdate

Is that antenna for Janson`s TV on the cockpit..? lol.gif

edit: better pic
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