V8 Fireworks
Nov 16 2009, 22:56
alg7_munif
Nov 16 2009, 22:56
V8 Fireworks
Nov 16 2009, 22:58
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Nov 16 2009, 23:53)
It looks nice and scary, but from a Sponsor view point, Black isn't good on TV is it?
It's okay, just need big clear writing:
V8 Fireworks
Nov 16 2009, 23:02
That rules out McLaren from signing Vettel then... Unless they do a Ferrari and pay out JB's final year.
Quite a bold move, how do McLaren feel about McLaren not signing a precontract with Vettel already or similar moves?
Sonic2k
Nov 16 2009, 23:13
QUOTE (teewoods @ Nov 16 2009, 23:49)
pls send this to woking right now!!!
maybe i should send it to Whitmarsh
Brawn BGP 001
Nov 16 2009, 23:16
QUOTE (V8 Fireworks @ Nov 16 2009, 23:02)
That rules out McLaren from signing Vettel then... Unless they do a Ferrari and pay out JB's final year.
Quite a bold move, how do McLaren feel about McLaren not signing a precontract with Vettel already or similar moves?
I think Vettel will move to Ferrari after his time at Red Bull, but I see no need to leave Red Bull at the moment.
undersquare
Nov 16 2009, 23:25
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Nov 16 2009, 22:53)
It looks nice and scary, but from a Sponsor view point, Black isn't good on TV is it?
I suppose on black tarmac, it would lose something. Shiny piano black, would be worth a screen test...
teewoods
Nov 16 2009, 23:32
Wouldn't it be funny if Mercedes GP use Kers and dominate next season
Anomnader
Nov 16 2009, 23:35
QUOTE (teewoods @ Nov 16 2009, 23:32)
Wouldn't it be funny if Mercedes GP use Kers and dominate next season
Yes, Merc are experts with kers but the problem with Kers isn't the power plant but how it interacts with the breaking and thats Mac technology
Anomnader
Nov 17 2009, 00:12
If Merc are going then I don't see why they are still splitting McLaren Automotive from the McLaren Group?
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Nov 16 2009, 19:12)
If Merc are going then I don't see why they are still splitting McLaren Automotive from the McLaren Group?
This move was planned from the beginning; Merc/McLaren split or not.
They probably spun off McLaren Automotive so that the car business is dissociated from the F1 business (corporate image, scandals, etc.) but also, and most importantly, to raise capital to orchestrate the purchase of the remaining 40%.
raiseyourfistfor
Nov 17 2009, 03:32
QUOTE (V8 Fireworks @ Nov 16 2009, 20:02)
That rules out McLaren from signing Vettel then... Unless they do a Ferrari and pay out JB's final year.
Quite a bold move, how do McLaren feel about McLaren not signing a precontract with Vettel already or similar moves?
They already have Lewis, Vettel isn't necessary for them to be successful
klyster
Nov 17 2009, 04:55
Has anyone heard anything about McLaren buying BMW's facility?
I don't know how true it is, someone told me they heard it on the radio?
I can't seem to find anything....
rodlamas
Nov 17 2009, 09:45
oh no...........Merc just dumped Button on McLaren
MaxFan1
Nov 17 2009, 09:57
QUOTE (Arion @ Nov 17 2009, 09:49)
oh no...........Merc just dumped Button on McLaren
It's a good thing. JB is better than KR.
QUOTE (undersquare @ Nov 16 2009, 21:52)
courtesy of blacksheep
I have no idea how you did this!? But that is one lovely McLaren, DAMN!
BunnyK
Nov 17 2009, 11:05
QUOTE (blacksheep79 @ Nov 16 2009, 19:50)
mclaren in black ^^
PictureStunning
highdownforce
Nov 17 2009, 11:09
QUOTE (undersquare @ Nov 16 2009, 18:52)
courtesy of blacksheep
Nice work!
But, am I the only one that didn't like it at all?
craftverk
Nov 17 2009, 11:12
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Nov 17 2009, 11:09)
Nice work!
But, am I the only one that didn't like it at all?
I don't like it either. Too plain.
Car will still be silver/rocket red though.
highdownforce
Nov 17 2009, 11:16
QUOTE (Owen @ Nov 17 2009, 09:13)
Car will still be silver/rocket red though.
We know that, but lets allow those fellows to explore their PS abilities.
jjcale
Nov 17 2009, 11:24
If JB does in fact join.... how easy will it be make a car that suits both his "smooth" style and LH's "ragged" style??
undersquare
Nov 17 2009, 11:39
QUOTE (jjcale @ Nov 17 2009, 11:24)
If JB does in fact join.... how easy will it be make a car that suits both his "smooth" style and LH's "ragged" style??
Not easy, I suspect. Quite doable, but not as good for development as two similar drivers.
Plus it will increase the political battle for influence within the team.
Everything about Jense --> Mac says 'bad idea'.
Nobody
Nov 17 2009, 11:49
QUOTE (Arion @ Nov 17 2009, 10:49)
oh no...........Merc just dumped Button on McLaren
Merc just dumped Button, not necessarily "on" Mac.
Looks like Mac has seen an opportunity which is cheaper and definitely more "marketable" than Kimi.
Can't say I'm thrilled about it, but they can put Liuzzi in the car and I will still cheer Mac and boo the rest (including Merc)
jjcale
Nov 17 2009, 12:07
QUOTE (undersquare @ Nov 17 2009, 11:39)
Not easy, I suspect. Quite doable, but not as good for development as two similar drivers.
Plus it will increase the political battle for influence within the team.
Everything about Jense --> Mac says 'bad idea'.
JB's management is also wise to this ...
"Goddard insists Button, 29, is not daunted by the prospect of joining McLaren, despite the perception that he will be sharing a garage with the team favourite Lewis Hamilton.
Jenson would have no problems being Lewis' teammate. He would relish the challenge as long
as he could make sure the development of the car suited him," he said."
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp...52169&FS=F1
QUOTE (jjcale @ Nov 17 2009, 13:07)
JB's management is also wise to this ...
"Goddard insists Button, 29, is not daunted by the prospect of joining McLaren, despite the perception that he will be sharing a garage with the team favourite Lewis Hamilton.
Jenson would have no problems being Lewis' teammate. He would relish the challenge as long
as he could make sure the development of the car suited him," he said."
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp...52169&FS=F1lol
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Nov 17 2009, 11:16)
We know that, but lets allow those fellows to explore their PS abilities.
If you like.
But seems a bit pointless that's all.
Sonic2k
Nov 17 2009, 13:21
QUOTE (ItisI @ Nov 17 2009, 11:39)
I have no idea how you did this!? But that is one lovely McLaren, DAMN!
thanks for all the positive feedback.
now here the white version:
TheArmchairCritic
Nov 17 2009, 13:34
QUOTE (Sonic2k @ Nov 17 2009, 13:21)
thanks for all the positive feedback.
now here the white version:
teejay
Nov 17 2009, 14:03
<3
That is so so so hot. Pay attention Andy.. and the white and red is kinda the colours you see many Brits fly on their flags... makes sense
Rockets
Nov 17 2009, 15:33
QUOTE (Sonic2k @ Nov 17 2009, 14:21)
thanks for all the positive feedback.
now here the white version:
plz McLaren logo=>nose
Jose Mourinho is Special
Nov 17 2009, 15:38
QUOTE (Sonic2k @ Nov 18 2009, 00:21)
thanks for all the positive feedback.
now here the white version:
Keep the current silver and red
alg7_munif
Nov 17 2009, 15:40
I don't want the car to look like a Toyota...
dabrasco
Nov 17 2009, 15:43
QUOTE (alg7_munif @ Nov 17 2009, 16:40)
I don't want the car to look like a Toyota...
yea I prefer the dark ominous colors, makes our car look like the bad guy
... especially with the way Lewis throws it around.
undersquare
Nov 17 2009, 15:43
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Nov 17 2009, 15:38)
good grief that looks awful! Keep the current silver and red
Agree. White is just so... not a colour.
Black at least is predatory, dark and evil
Silver glints at you, shows all the shapes, much too good to let Merc hog it.
QUOTE (alg7_munif @ Nov 17 2009, 16:40)
I don't want the car to look like a Toyota...
same here, Toyota-ish means slow
saunarobot
Nov 17 2009, 15:52
Button at McLaren will be a huge mistake. He will get destroyed by Hamilton, everyone is gonna be disappointed, but the most disappointed will be McLaren and Button. Should have at least signed Kubica when he was available.
QUOTE (saunarobot @ Nov 17 2009, 16:52)
Button at McLaren will be a huge mistake. He will get destroyed by Hamilton, everyone is gonna be disappointed, but the most disappointed will be McLaren and Button. Should have at least signed Kubica when he was available.
The move doesn't make sense for Button, but maybe he really feels Brawn is treating him like shit. McLaren won't be disappointed, he's definitely better than Heikki, he's a WDC and he's marketable.
Kubica shouldn't have signed with Renault so early, when it's always been obvious that McLaren is looking to replace Heikki.
alexbiker
Nov 17 2009, 16:27
I don't know - on the days when Lewis can't get the car to oversteer right, or when he's ripping the tyres to shreds around turn 8 at Turkey, it might well be that Jenson picks up the win. Also, we don't know what the car will be like - if it's basically balanced with a gentle bit of understeer, job done for Jense.
The Ragged Edge
Nov 17 2009, 16:33
QUOTE (Arion @ Nov 17 2009, 16:02)
The move doesn't make sense for Button, but maybe he really feels Brawn is treating him like shit. McLaren won't be disappointed, he's definitely better than Heikki, he's a WDC and he's marketable.
Kubica shouldn't have signed with Renault so early, when it's always been obvious that McLaren is looking to replace Heikki.
Kimi and the Robertsons have overplayed their hand IMO. As things stand, Kubica could be paired at Renault with Raikkonen. There are only 3 good seats potentially available. Brawn, Mclaren and Renault.
QUOTE (The Ragged Edge @ Nov 17 2009, 17:33)
Kimi and the Robertsons have overplayed their hand IMO. As things stand, Kubica could be paired at Renault with Raikkonen. There are only 3 good seats potentially available. Brawn, Mclaren and Renault.
Rumour has it Kubica is getting about 3.5 mil from Renault, hard to imagine Raikkenon would be tempted by a similar offer. It's not just the money, the Renault this season looks like a real lemon, doesn't look good for next season at all.
The Ragged Edge
Nov 17 2009, 16:56
QUOTE (Arion @ Nov 17 2009, 16:45)
Rumour has it Kubica is getting about 3.5 mil from Renault, hard to imagine Raikkonen would be tempted by a similar offer. It's not just the money, the Renault this season looks like a real lemon, doesn't look good for next season at all.
So what real choices does Raikkonen genuinely have? I've been saying for a long while (post Bahrain GP) that something does not look right. On the surface there was absolutely no reason why Mclaren and Kimi could not have agreed a contract weeks ago. Mclaren flaunting Button around their facilities and not even hiding it from the world, appeared IMO to be a message to Raikkonen. But now the talk is of Button and Mclaren having agreed a deal. The next few days will be interesting.
QUOTE (The Ragged Edge @ Nov 17 2009, 16:56)
But now the talk is of Button and Mclaren having agreed a deal. The next few days will be interesting.
Agreeing a deal and signing a contract are two very different things
Ask Bobby Rahal...
The Ragged Edge
Nov 17 2009, 17:04
QUOTE (Rob @ Nov 17 2009, 16:57)
Agreeing a deal and signing a contract are two very different things
Ask Bobby Rahal...
I agree there is a big difference between agreeing a deal and signing a contract. It falls into the same category as a verbal agreement. But what is your take on the situation? As things stand, who do you think will drive the 2nd McLaren seat if your life depended on it?
gincarnated
Nov 17 2009, 17:05
QUOTE (Sonic2k @ Nov 17 2009, 13:21)
thanks for all the positive feedback.
now here the white version:
Needs more red i think. Maybe on the nose, engine cover and the entire wing.
Atreiu
Nov 17 2009, 17:10
Red and white like Toyota?
Oh, please no.
grunge
Nov 17 2009, 17:41
QUOTE (Atreiu @ Nov 17 2009, 21:10)
Red and white like Toyota?
Oh, please no.
i thought the red and white mclaren from prost/senna days looked awesome
highdownforce
Nov 17 2009, 17:42
QUOTE (Atreiu @ Nov 17 2009, 15:10)
Red and white like Toyota?
Oh, please no.
You mean, like McLaren, right?
Or Penske...
People really showing their age here! "A McLaren? In white and red? Inconceivable!"
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