I mention JB only because of 2 reasons
1) He ran more laps than Lewis did today in FP 2.
2) If Jenson is happy with the car's handling its a given that Lewis will be happy too as Jenson likes it only when the cars balance is almost or near perfect.
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QUOTE (Katsumi @ Jul 23 2010, 14:22) 
No problemo, Lewis with a full car can do a 1:05 - 1:07 ... seriously ...
QUOTE (mkay @ Jul 23 2010, 15:28)
This was early in the championship. Alonso didn't have much to lose at the time.
This day was important for McLaren because they have to get the updates to work as expected, well if they want to win both titles... This was a day, especially since it was wet, where you were allowed to do everything BAR going out and bin your car. That's exactly what Lewis did. I know he is fast out of the box and tests the limits, but that was too much. He should have been warned by his team to take it safe and slow at least through the wet part of the FPs.
Let's see if McLaren can close the gap tomorrow.
For the record, I haven't seen any FPs since I was asleep/driving to work. How come McLaren lost 0.4 in S1? I understand S3, but S1?
This day was important for McLaren because they have to get the updates to work as expected, well if they want to win both titles... This was a day, especially since it was wet, where you were allowed to do everything BAR going out and bin your car. That's exactly what Lewis did. I know he is fast out of the box and tests the limits, but that was too much. He should have been warned by his team to take it safe and slow at least through the wet part of the FPs.
Let's see if McLaren can close the gap tomorrow.
For the record, I haven't seen any FPs since I was asleep/driving to work. How come McLaren lost 0.4 in S1? I understand S3, but S1?
Hamilton's done this before, as have many drivers.
Also to say Alonso binning it in Monaco wasn't important is nonsense. Button's early wins in 2009 won him the championship. A point at the start of a season is worth exactly the same as a point at the end of the season. Something many drivers forget.
Hamilton made a mistake today, but that's just life. Like Alonso in Monaco you just gotta get one with it.
QUOTE (mkay @ Jul 23 2010, 15:13)
Hamilton did well at the end but that doesn't excuse his massive blunder. Come on, man! I thought he had a brain until now. Why make it even harder for McLaren?! Why crash? Why didn't he take it slow since it was wet?
This is as big a mistake as it gets; as bad as Alonso at Monaco. They lost precious time in both FPs. They will have a monster catch up to do in FP3 tomorrow.
Really disappointed in Lewis today. Furthermore, the car doesn't seem really good through S1 and S3. Combined, Hamilton lost over 1 second.
This is as big a mistake as it gets; as bad as Alonso at Monaco. They lost precious time in both FPs. They will have a monster catch up to do in FP3 tomorrow.
Really disappointed in Lewis today. Furthermore, the car doesn't seem really good through S1 and S3. Combined, Hamilton lost over 1 second.
OMG
. I mean there's pessimism then there's you.Firstly, nearly everyone went off in FP1 at some point. As AD said Hamilton was just really unlucky. All of Vettel, Massa, Sutil, Schumi, Rosberg and many more had much worse offs and they happened to be in areas with large run-offs, Lewis happened to lose it in an area with no tarmac run-off. Also it isn't really comparable to Alonso in Monaco, as that was a dry track with perfect conditions, this was a very wet track in changeable conditions with a car Lewis wasn't that used to. On top of that he didn't lose it because he was being overly aggressive, he simply got a wheel on the curb. A very little error, one which nearly the whole field made, yet Lewis was the only one to really suffer as a result. A small mistake yes, the outcome of which was amplified simply by some bad luck.
Lewis wasn't on long fuel, wasn't even on medium fuel. Most probably he was sent out with so fuel, which will last till the end. He was sent out to get a feel, and clocking some comparable lap times.
And for the record. Alonso set his best time on his 8th(!) timed lap on that stint. Was he on long/medium fuel? No way, it was short fuel, lap times tell clearly.
And Lewis' S2 tells clearly it was quite short fuel. You cannot be that fast in that sector with long or medium fuel.
And for the record. Alonso set his best time on his 8th(!) timed lap on that stint. Was he on long/medium fuel? No way, it was short fuel, lap times tell clearly.
And Lewis' S2 tells clearly it was quite short fuel. You cannot be that fast in that sector with long or medium fuel.
QUOTE (mkay @ Jul 23 2010, 15:28)
This was early in the championship. Alonso didn't have much to lose at the time.
This day was important for McLaren because they have to get the updates to work as expected, well if they want to win both titles... This was a day, especially since it was wet, where you were allowed to do everything BAR going out and bin your car. That's exactly what Lewis did. I know he is fast out of the box and tests the limits, but that was too much. He should have been warned by his team to take it safe and slow at least through the wet part of the FPs.
Let's see if McLaren can close the gap tomorrow.
For the record, I haven't seen any FPs since I was asleep/driving to work. How come McLaren lost 0.4 in S1? I understand S3, but S1?
This day was important for McLaren because they have to get the updates to work as expected, well if they want to win both titles... This was a day, especially since it was wet, where you were allowed to do everything BAR going out and bin your car. That's exactly what Lewis did. I know he is fast out of the box and tests the limits, but that was too much. He should have been warned by his team to take it safe and slow at least through the wet part of the FPs.
Let's see if McLaren can close the gap tomorrow.
For the record, I haven't seen any FPs since I was asleep/driving to work. How come McLaren lost 0.4 in S1? I understand S3, but S1?
no, just no...
nothing is worse than missing qualy because you binned it in FP3 and starting at the back, your talking rubbish.
they got plenty of running with jenson so they haven't missed anything to do with evaluating the updates, its lewis who lost the time on track to adjust, and he came out and put in some very nice times.
QUOTE (mkay @ Jul 23 2010, 15:13)
Hamilton did well at the end but that doesn't excuse his massive blunder. Come on, man! I thought he had a brain until now. Why make it even harder for McLaren?! Why crash? Why didn't he take it slow since it was wet?
This is as big a mistake as it gets; as bad as Alonso at Monaco. They lost precious time in both FPs. They will have a monster catch up to do in FP3 tomorrow.
Really disappointed in Lewis today. Furthermore, the car doesn't seem really good through S1 and S3. Combined, Hamilton lost over 1 second.
This is as big a mistake as it gets; as bad as Alonso at Monaco. They lost precious time in both FPs. They will have a monster catch up to do in FP3 tomorrow.
Really disappointed in Lewis today. Furthermore, the car doesn't seem really good through S1 and S3. Combined, Hamilton lost over 1 second.
I agree. This is not the first time that crucial errors have been made by Lewis is Free Practice sessions.
In Turkey, he spun off in turn eight in practice.
In Canada, he got a bit too intimate with the walls and the mechanics had to repair the damage after the session.
I mean it seriously compromises McLaren's weekends. What did McLaren do in those two weekends?
This mistake is just one-two many. Whitmarsh should strap on a pair and get a real driver like Sakon Yamamoto if Lewis keeps up this form.
Busy day in here today, blimey! So many people 'working from home' or something?
QUOTE (Gareth @ Jul 23 2010, 14:15)
A bit of an over reaction. Losing time in FP1 and FP2 is way preferable to losing time in FP3 and qualifying last.
A definite blunder, but hardly as bad as you're making out.
A definite blunder, but hardly as bad as you're making out.
No just a little unlucky, but then the final laps not as amazing as some suggesting either.
McLaren are like lightning through the middle sector, and Hamilton did his sector two time on the hardest compound in Bridgestone's range. Bolt on the softest tyre and watch how quick it will go.
QUOTE (syph0nJZ05 @ Jul 23 2010, 14:32)
OMG . I mean there's pessimism then there's you.
Firstly, nearly everyone went off in FP1 at some point. As AD said Hamilton was just really unlucky. All of Vettel, Massa, Sutil, Schumi, Rosberg and many more had much worse offs and they happened to be in areas with large run-offs, Lewis happened to lose it in an area with no tarmac run-off. Also it isn't really comparable to Alonso in Monaco, as that was a dry track with perfect conditions, this was a very wet track in changeable conditions with a car Lewis wasn't that used to. On top of that he didn't lose it because he was being overly aggressive, he simply got a wheel on the curb. A very little error, one which nearly the whole field made, yet Lewis was the only one to really suffer as a result. A small mistake yes, the outcome of which was amplified simply by some bad luck.
. I mean there's pessimism then there's you.Firstly, nearly everyone went off in FP1 at some point. As AD said Hamilton was just really unlucky. All of Vettel, Massa, Sutil, Schumi, Rosberg and many more had much worse offs and they happened to be in areas with large run-offs, Lewis happened to lose it in an area with no tarmac run-off. Also it isn't really comparable to Alonso in Monaco, as that was a dry track with perfect conditions, this was a very wet track in changeable conditions with a car Lewis wasn't that used to. On top of that he didn't lose it because he was being overly aggressive, he simply got a wheel on the curb. A very little error, one which nearly the whole field made, yet Lewis was the only one to really suffer as a result. A small mistake yes, the outcome of which was amplified simply by some bad luck.
I don't think it was just bad luck. As you said he hit the inside curb. It was a driver error. No one is perfect, it happens to every driver. It puts McLaren behind but I think Mclaren and LH have proven that they can recover.
QUOTE (Owen @ Jul 23 2010, 15:36)
Busy day in here today, blimey! So many people 'working from home' or something?
Yup.
By a strange coincidence, I have been working from home every Friday on GP weekends.
I don`t read too much in times from today, but that fastest second sector confuse me a little, even though there is no real challenges in that sector - just hairpin, and one full throttle corner till the next braking. The real challenges on this track for EBD is first corner, and the entrance of the stadium, where as it looks like Macca didn`t run so well. But I think we don`t need to guessing, just got to wait couple of hours till the team decide will they run EBD.
Good job by the team to rebuild Lewis car! Well done!
Good job by the team to rebuild Lewis car! Well done!
QUOTE (Dunder @ Jul 23 2010, 15:40)
Yup.
By a strange coincidence, I have been working from home every Friday on GP weekends.
By a strange coincidence, I have been working from home every Friday on GP weekends.
uncanny!
QUOTE (Watkins74 @ Jul 23 2010, 15:39)
I don't think it was just bad luck. As you said he hit the inside curb. It was a driver error. No one is perfect, it happens to every driver. It puts McLaren behind but I think Mclaren and LH have proven that they can recover.
It was definitely a driver error, I think everyone agrees with that.
The bad luck is only that the error led to such a loss of track time.
QUOTE (mkay @ Jul 23 2010, 11:13)
Hamilton did well at the end but that doesn't excuse his massive blunder. Come on, man! I thought he had a brain until now. Why make it even harder for McLaren?! Why crash? Why didn't he take it slow since it was wet?
This is as big a mistake as it gets; as bad as Alonso at Monaco. They lost precious time in both FPs. They will have a monster catch up to do in FP3 tomorrow.
Really disappointed in Lewis today. Furthermore, the car doesn't seem really good through S1 and S3. Combined, Hamilton lost over 1 second.
This is as big a mistake as it gets; as bad as Alonso at Monaco. They lost precious time in both FPs. They will have a monster catch up to do in FP3 tomorrow.
Really disappointed in Lewis today. Furthermore, the car doesn't seem really good through S1 and S3. Combined, Hamilton lost over 1 second.
F-Duct and Mercedes power really pushed us through the middle sector. I would of thought that means we need to run a little more downforce. But as we set-up the car a little more and the track gets better there is alot of time to be gained in the twisties.
QUOTE (argiriano @ Jul 23 2010, 14:41)
I don`t read too much in times from today, but that fastest second sector confuse me a little, even though there is no real challenges in that sector - just hairpin, and one full throttle corner till the next braking. The real challenges on this track for EBD is first corner, and the entrance of the stadium, where as it looks like Macca didn`t run so well. But I think we don`t need to guessing, just got to wait couple of hours till the team decide will they run EBD.
Good job by the team to rebuild Lewis car! Well done!
Good job by the team to rebuild Lewis car! Well done!
I guarantee they will run it.
interesting comments from Lewis http://adamcooperf1.com/2010/07/23/i-was-j...-says-hamilton/
“It’s definitely not perfect, it’s not something you just put on and drive with the original balance of the car you had before, you have to change the balance a little bit. And also you driving has to change a little bit, because when you get on the power you should have a lot more downforce. It’s how you use it, I guess. We’ve got to work on that.
“For me it feels very similar to what it did at Silverstone. The corner entries maybe seem to be a little better, but it’s a completely different track, much slower speed. But it’s not bad. Hopefully if we keep working in it will be even better later"
seems like there is still a lot of work to do
“It’s definitely not perfect, it’s not something you just put on and drive with the original balance of the car you had before, you have to change the balance a little bit. And also you driving has to change a little bit, because when you get on the power you should have a lot more downforce. It’s how you use it, I guess. We’ve got to work on that.
“For me it feels very similar to what it did at Silverstone. The corner entries maybe seem to be a little better, but it’s a completely different track, much slower speed. But it’s not bad. Hopefully if we keep working in it will be even better later"
seems like there is still a lot of work to do
QUOTE (Owen @ Jul 23 2010, 15:36)
Busy day in here today, blimey! So many people 'working from home' or something?
'Sat off having a Formula 1 Friday at work' would be more accurate in my case. Basically, I write off about 4 hours worth of work every Friday of a GP weekend.
But don't tell anyone.
QUOTE (hotstickyslick @ Jul 23 2010, 15:39)
McLaren are like lightning through the middle sector, and Hamilton did his sector two time on the hardest compound in Bridgestone's range. Bolt on the softest tyre and watch how quick it will go.
Given any of the top cars as fresher tyres as Lewis had, send them out when the track is at its most rubbered in, on a low'ish fuel stint and see how fast any of them go.
Lewis' time is so out of conjunction with anyone elses out there it isn't comparable, but i guess seeing purple no matter what the circumstance is promising and can get people hyped up.
QUOTE (Tom1000 @ Jul 23 2010, 15:47)
interesting comments from Lewis http://adamcooperf1.com/2010/07/23/i-was-j...-says-hamilton/
“It’s definitely not perfect, it’s not something you just put on and drive with the original balance of the car you had before, you have to change the balance a little bit. And also you driving has to change a little bit, because when you get on the power you should have a lot more downforce. It’s how you use it, I guess. We’ve got to work on that.
“For me it feels very similar to what it did at Silverstone. The corner entries maybe seem to be a little better, but it’s a completely different track, much slower speed. But it’s not bad. Hopefully if we keep working in it will be even better later"
seems like there is still a lot of work to do
“It’s definitely not perfect, it’s not something you just put on and drive with the original balance of the car you had before, you have to change the balance a little bit. And also you driving has to change a little bit, because when you get on the power you should have a lot more downforce. It’s how you use it, I guess. We’ve got to work on that.
“For me it feels very similar to what it did at Silverstone. The corner entries maybe seem to be a little better, but it’s a completely different track, much slower speed. But it’s not bad. Hopefully if we keep working in it will be even better later"
seems like there is still a lot of work to do
I find that encouraging.
QUOTE (Katsumi @ Jul 23 2010, 14:10)
To gather what kind of info?
same info every other car gets when they run same kind of stints
i.e. good idea of pace, balance etc etc come on u are seriously not asking this question
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Jul 23 2010, 10:43)
Childish picture
0.653 lost in S3, 0.487 lost in S1
Well over 1s
QUOTE (argiriano @ Jul 23 2010, 11:41)
I don`t read too much in times from today, but that fastest second sector confuse me a little, even though there is no real challenges in that sector - just hairpin, and one full throttle corner till the next braking. The real challenges on this track for EBD is first corner, and the entrance of the stadium, where as it looks like Macca didn`t run so well. But I think we don`t need to guessing, just got to wait couple of hours till the team decide will they run EBD.
Good job by the team to rebuild Lewis car! Well done!
Good job by the team to rebuild Lewis car! Well done!
It's not that hard to explain. McLaren are running less wing = faster on the long straight but it means they lack grip in the twisty S3.
QUOTE (Owen @ Jul 23 2010, 15:36)
Busy day in here today, blimey! So many people 'working from home' or something?
Well, im homing from work ...
Button put in a lot of laps so theyll have stacks of data, i expect they will have a lot better setup for FP3 and Q.
QUOTE (mkay @ Jul 23 2010, 14:28)
This was early in the championship. Alonso didn't have much to lose at the time.
This day was important for McLaren because they have to get the updates to work as expected, well if they want to win both titles... This was a day, especially since it was wet, where you were allowed to do everything BAR going out and bin your car. That's exactly what Lewis did. I know he is fast out of the box and tests the limits, but that was too much. He should have been warned by his team to take it safe and slow at least through the wet part of the FPs.
Let's see if McLaren can close the gap tomorrow.
For the record, I haven't seen any FPs since I was asleep/driving to work. How come McLaren lost 0.4 in S1? I understand S3, but S1?
This day was important for McLaren because they have to get the updates to work as expected, well if they want to win both titles... This was a day, especially since it was wet, where you were allowed to do everything BAR going out and bin your car. That's exactly what Lewis did. I know he is fast out of the box and tests the limits, but that was too much. He should have been warned by his team to take it safe and slow at least through the wet part of the FPs.
Let's see if McLaren can close the gap tomorrow.
For the record, I haven't seen any FPs since I was asleep/driving to work. How come McLaren lost 0.4 in S1? I understand S3, but S1?
dude get some f***** perspective... u saw so many drivers spin off in the wet....multiple times, lucky not to hit the barriers. Sht happens when u are driving a newish car...even when you are being careful in those conditions...except you wanna lap super slow.
You probably didnt ever watch the session or see the incident. I understand pple say silly sht in swing-o-meter season but get some f***** perspective!
QUOTE (mkay @ Jul 23 2010, 11:50)
0.653 lost in S3, 0.487 lost in S1
Well over 1s
Well over 1s
Last time I checked there are 3 sectors which all contribute to the overall laptime. It is also quite obvious that Lewis' car doesn't have the right setup yet.
QUOTE (bauss @ Jul 23 2010, 15:49)
same info every other car gets when they run same kind of stints
i.e. good idea of pace, balance etc etc come on u are seriously not asking this question
i.e. good idea of pace, balance etc etc come on u are seriously not asking this question
Uuuuh? ... pace? balance? .. what the f. are you talking about?
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Jul 23 2010, 15:50)
It's not that hard to explain. McLaren are running less wing = faster on the long straight but it means they lack grip in the twisty S3.
Surely they'd run more wing, with the F-duct giving them the extra speed on the straight.........? That's what they've done before.
It would seem that there's no real need for them to run less wing than other teams around them when they still have the straightline speed advantage (albeit marginal now) with the F-duct
Reading JB comments he likes hte balance of his car on long runs today and also the EBD. I guess with lewis running so little on a dry track he still feels they have work to do.
I am hoping for a dry FP3 and Qualy because Race day is supposed to be dry and sunny. EBD still has work to do, I think it takes 3 races to get right like Ferrari have done so it might only be SPA before ours is fully optimized to the car balance.
I am hoping for a dry FP3 and Qualy because Race day is supposed to be dry and sunny. EBD still has work to do, I think it takes 3 races to get right like Ferrari have done so it might only be SPA before ours is fully optimized to the car balance.
QUOTE (Dunder @ Jul 23 2010, 14:49)
I find that encouraging.
I suppose it depends what your expectations for this weekend were
after Silverstone I thought they may have had the EBD on the car and working well for this race
it doesn't seem to me now that if the EBD is used it will give much of a boost
QUOTE (robybobey @ Jul 23 2010, 11:57)
Surely they'd run more wing, with the F-duct giving them the extra speed on the straight.........? That's what they've done before.
It would seem that there's no real need for them to run less wing than other teams around them when they still have the straightline speed advantage (albeit marginal now) with the F-duct
It would seem that there's no real need for them to run less wing than other teams around them when they still have the straightline speed advantage (albeit marginal now) with the F-duct
Maybe that is one way to approach it. But today they just chose to be way faster in the middle sector and surrender S1 and S3 to RBR and ferrari (probably just because of softs and low fuel though for ferrari)
QUOTE (bauss @ Jul 23 2010, 10:55)
dude get some f***** perspective... u saw so many drivers spin off in the wet....multiple times, lucky not to hit the barriers. Sht happens when u are driving a newish car...even when you are being careful in those conditions...except you wanna lap super slow.
You probably didnt ever watch the session or see the incident. I understand pple say silly sht in swing-o-meter season but get some f***** perspective!
You probably didnt ever watch the session or see the incident. I understand pple say silly sht in swing-o-meter season but get some f***** perspective!
Read properly. I SAID I didn't see ANY of the SESSIONS!
God..
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Jul 23 2010, 16:05)
Maybe that is one way to approach it. But today they just chose to be way faster in the middle sector and surrender S1 and S3 to RBR and ferrari (probably just because of softs and low fuel though for ferrari)
You can see why that would be a good approach for the race, too, with S2 being the overtaking sector.
If there are two setups that produce the same lap time, one with a big gain in S2 but loss in S1 and S3 and the other more evenly balanced across the sectors, the one with a gain in S2 would look more attractive to me. If they end up just behind the RB's in qualy but are faster on race day, they have a better chance of overtaking. If anything goes wrong in qualy or on race day and they find themseves down the field, they have a better chance of working their way through.
QUOTE (Dunder @ Jul 23 2010, 15:49)
I find that encouraging.
Yep - "when you get on the power you should have a lot more downforce"
QUOTE (undersquare @ Jul 23 2010, 16:10)
Yep - "when you get on the power you should have a lot more downforce"
I've highlighted what I believe is the key word. I hope its just a setup issue that can be sorted overnight or after FP3, otherwise it McLaren may struggle with the EBD.
so what are people's expectations for tomorrow
anyone think McLaren can get poll ?
where do you think we stand vis a vis Ferrari ?
anyone think McLaren can get poll ?
where do you think we stand vis a vis Ferrari ?
Alonso used the supersofts, Hamilton set his time on the hard tires. You would think, that the difference in S1 and S3 was down to the tires.
QUOTE (Tom1000 @ Jul 23 2010, 16:15)
so what are people's expectations for tomorrow
anyone think McLaren can get poll ?
where do you think we stand vis a vis Ferrari ?
anyone think McLaren can get poll ?
where do you think we stand vis a vis Ferrari ?
At the moment pole may be out of reach, but as others have mentioned that was just practice.
at this point even the RBRs look genuinely worried about the Ferraris, so who knows... lets see how the car runs in FP3 n qualy
S2 is the least fuel sensitive sector on the track. It has 2 straights and 3 corners through a big length.
Anyway, I think that what Lewis did was mega. Zero laps in the dry all weekend, no set-up with a car that is a different beast to what he has raced all season and 7th fastest time in 8 laps with the fastest S2 time.
I think we're in pretty good shape to fight the reds and the blues.
Anyway, I think that what Lewis did was mega. Zero laps in the dry all weekend, no set-up with a car that is a different beast to what he has raced all season and 7th fastest time in 8 laps with the fastest S2 time.
I think we're in pretty good shape to fight the reds and the blues.
QUOTE (mlsnoopy @ Jul 23 2010, 16:16)
Alonso used the supersofts, Hamilton set his time on the hard tires. You would think, that the difference in S1 and S3 was down to the tires.
i was thinking the same, surely with the large gap in compound between the tyres the soft should have quite a performance advantage right? this could easily explain the majority of the 7 tenths
"This morning was useful, because there's a possibility of more rain tomorrow. But we didn't have a very good set-up for P1 in the wet - we changed the car over lunch, and I was much happier with the balance this afternoon. As always, we have to do things to make the car better. The long-run pace is pretty reasonable - I think we were expecting more issues with graining on the Option, but it didn't seem to be a big issue. Hopefully, tomorrow's morning session will be dry so we can focus on some useful set-up work. Obviously, Lewis had a problem this morning, so I had a busy afternoon running through our long-run programme in P2.The new floor appears to be working well. We still need to look at the data to see how much of an improvement it's giving us, but there's no negative to it, which is great."
JB comment from: ESPN F1
Fingers crossed.
JB comment from: ESPN F1
Fingers crossed.
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"The new blown diffuser still isn't perfect - it's not something you can just put on the car and drive with the same balance that you had before; you've got to alter the balance, and modify your driving style. We're still working on it, but there's potential there." Lewis Hamilton
http://en.espnf1.com/germany/motorsport/story/24034.html
Sounds a bit more upbeat at least.
QUOTE (Pingu Pi @ Jul 23 2010, 16:19)
i was thinking the same, surely with the large gap in compound between the tyres the soft should have quite a performance advantage right? this could easily explain the majority of the 7 tenths
Yes, but to what degree? Perhaps McLaren is getting the hards to work but they might not get the SS's to work, or to be fair they may be better then the others on SS's. You can never tell until they have more dry laps on each. Not only for pace but length of usable tire life.
QUOTE (Watkins74 @ Jul 23 2010, 11:26)
Yes, but to what degree? Perhaps McLaren is getting the hards to work but they might not get the SS's to work, or to be fair they may be better then the others on SS's. You can never tell until they have more dry laps on each. Not only for pace but length of usable tire life.
Exaclty. I was about to point that out. Often McLaren was unable to get the SS tyres to work.
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