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We have just arrived at Vodafone HQ!!!! There is a real buzz about the place. So excited about tomorrow's launch!
Fifth Driver
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Fifth Driver
the 2008 cars had roughly the same aero efficiency the big difference was that the ferrari was really kind on its tires and the mclaren really worked them. from a downforce stand point they were not separated by much (if any)
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Jan 28 2010, 23:11) 
... from a downforce stand point they were not separated by much (if any)
My bet is 3 points of downforce
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Jan 28 2010, 23:11)
the 2008 cars had roughly the same aero efficiency the big difference was that the ferrari was really kind on its tires and the mclaren really worked them. from a downforce stand point they were not separated by much (if any)
and that will be one of the very interesting variables to watch this year, both brawn and ferrari were kind to its tires, while red bull and mclaren worked their tires harder. Both have advantages, although i think Mclarens were almost spot on. No problems getting temp, on qual lap, no prob getting temp during wet conditions, but still no problem using soft compound. Brawns was perhaps to soft. Problems during qual, especially.
You loose more if you cant get the tires into optimum operation temp, then if it uses them a little to hard i think.
QUOTE (Owen @ Jan 28 2010, 21:41)
The timetable:
11:00 Unveiling of the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-25 with Jenson and Lewis
11:30 On-stage interviews with Vodafone McLaren Mercedes management Martin Whitmarsh, Jonathan Neale & Paddy Lowe
12:00 On-stage interviews with Jenson and Lewis
http://f1tailpipe.com/2010/01/f1tailpipe-a...unch-on-friday/
Hope you don't mind F1TailPipe
11:00 Unveiling of the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-25 with Jenson and Lewis
11:30 On-stage interviews with Vodafone McLaren Mercedes management Martin Whitmarsh, Jonathan Neale & Paddy Lowe
12:00 On-stage interviews with Jenson and Lewis
http://f1tailpipe.com/2010/01/f1tailpipe-a...unch-on-friday/
Hope you don't mind F1TailPipe
Not at all...you could have dropped a few questions in the comments though!
We have seen the 2 ugly sisters Ferrari and Merc not lets see MP4-25 aka Cinderella on speed
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Jan 28 2010, 22:11)
the 2008 cars had roughly the same aero efficiency the big difference was that the ferrari was really kind on its tires and the mclaren really worked them. from a downforce stand point they were not separated by much (if any)
Both Ferrari's dominated at Barcelona in 2008, a track where aero performance really shows. A good place for winter testing because of it.
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and that will be one of the very interesting variables to watch this year, both brawn and ferrari were kind to its tires, while red bull and mclaren worked their tires harder. Both have advantages, although i think Mclarens were almost spot on. No problems getting temp, on qual lap, no prob getting temp during wet conditions, but still no problem using soft compound. Brawns was perhaps to soft. Problems during qual, especially.
You loose more if you cant get the tires into optimum operation temp, then if it uses them a little to hard i think.
You loose more if you cant get the tires into optimum operation temp, then if it uses them a little to hard i think.
It's not like both Ferraris and Brawns suffered from low tyre temps, that was more on Button and Raikkonen's side of things, Massa and Barrichello coped much better and proved how quick the car could be in both qualifying and the race. Too many times in 2008 did we see the McLaren's fade from the Ferrari pace when Ferrari weren't having any troubles.
QUOTE (craftverk @ Jan 28 2010, 23:43)
Both Ferrari's dominated at Barcelona in 2008, a track where aero performance really shows. A good place for winter testing because of it.
It's not like both Ferraris and Brawns suffered from low tyre temps, that was more on Button and Raikkonen's side of things, Massa and Barrichello coped much better and proved how quick the car could be in both qualifying and the race. Too many times in 2008 did we see the McLaren's fade from the Ferrari pace when Ferrari weren't having any troubles.
It's not like both Ferraris and Brawns suffered from low tyre temps, that was more on Button and Raikkonen's side of things, Massa and Barrichello coped much better and proved how quick the car could be in both qualifying and the race. Too many times in 2008 did we see the McLaren's fade from the Ferrari pace when Ferrari weren't having any troubles.
well i think in 2009 mclaren were close to get it spot on
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 28 2010, 22:50)
well i think in 2009 mclaren were close to get it spot on
mclaren were definitely at their best with michelins as far as tyres go imo
QUOTE (craftverk @ Jan 28 2010, 18:43)
Both Ferrari's dominated at Barcelona in 2008, a track where aero performance really shows. A good place for winter testing because of it.
McLaren struggled with tire wear there. On Silverstone which is just as aero demanding Mclaren dominated all 3 days. Same with China.
QUOTE (craftverk @ Jan 28 2010, 17:00)
mclaren were definitely at their best with michelins as far as tyres go imo
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Getting excited
From having no work to do during normal work hours, to having to work AFTERHOURS... I JUST got home, which means I'm going to probably be asleep through the launch, and considering I have to get up early for work again, tomorrow, I'm going to have to see what the car looks like on my tiny phone screen.
So disappointed
Ughhh
So disappointed
Ughhh
i got home from wrk an hour ago (about 3pm) and ive got nothing to do all night except sit infront of my laptop and watch, hope this makes you happier haha
at the end of today, ill predict this thread will increase by 10 pages with 6 pages of insightful armchair engineering ...
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As I take a closer look at the covered picture of the MC Car at the internet site I believe that the new car is camouflaged some how beneath the last year one, for example at the engine cover area!
And maybe or better I hope that is how it will be revealed at least through the internet
And maybe or better I hope that is how it will be revealed at least through the internet
i was thinking the same but more infront of the cockpit opening then all the way at the end of the nosecone, see its kinda layered but alot higher?
QUOTE (ERICTOPF1 @ Jan 29 2010, 07:21)
As I take a closer look at the covered picture of the MC Car at the internet site I believe that the new car is camouflaged some how beneath the last year one, for example at the engine cover area!
And maybe or better I hope that is how it will be revealed at least through the internet
And maybe or better I hope that is how it will be revealed at least through the internet
your absolutley right, cant believe i didnt see that, you can see at the top of the nose where it was flat before and is now raised and at the engine cover where the mp4-25 layer is added on. ha
or maybe my eyes are just messing with me, ant been to bed yet, didnt want to sleep through the launch due to a late night...
excited is an understatement, i dont expect to see the diffuser but im expecting some kind of futuristic Speed Racer esque design
Do we know what time the launch is set for?
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Jan 29 2010, 07:54)
Do we know what time the launch is set for?
http://carlaunch.mclaren.com/
In 3 hours aprox.
9pm Australian time
McLaren_eShop The hashtag for the launch is #MP425. We'll show your live tweets with that hashtag on a Twitter-wall at the McLaren Technology Centre.
QUOTE (kids like ash @ Jan 29 2010, 10:42)
i was thinking the same but more infront of the cockpit opening then all the way at the end of the nosecone, see its kinda layered but alot higher?
I think that small parts from the new car are shown here and there.
The clock is ticking!
QUOTE (kids like ash @ Jan 29 2010, 19:01)
9pm Australian time
10pm isn't it?
Actually it's 9:30pm.
(P.S: You know about timezones right?)
(P.S: You know about timezones right?)
QUOTE (LoudHoward @ Jan 29 2010, 19:30)
Actually it's 9:30pm.
(P.S: You know about timezones right?)
(P.S: You know about timezones right?)
ah yes, keep forgetting Australias such a big place
10pm Sydney time then
Timer says 2hr 26min, so it's 10pm for me. It's only 9:30 if you live in South Australia or the Northern Territory.
TheFifthDriver: Car arrived in the early hours of this morning - under wraps and looking beautiful!!
QUOTE (kids like ash @ Jan 29 2010, 08:42)
i was thinking the same but more infront of the cockpit opening then all the way at the end of the nosecone, see its kinda layered but alot higher?
yea that, and it seems like there are two engine covers, a shorter one and a longer one
are they just messing with us?
7pm on the good side of Australia
Won't it be a hoot if Mclaren roll out a hideous looking car?
After all the photographers have taken their pictures and had them posted on websites, after a short speech by Whitmarsh and some comments by the drivers have been given, after all the hoopla has died down, only THEN does Mclaren announce that they're just messing with us and bring out the REAL car for 2010.
After all the photographers have taken their pictures and had them posted on websites, after a short speech by Whitmarsh and some comments by the drivers have been given, after all the hoopla has died down, only THEN does Mclaren announce that they're just messing with us and bring out the REAL car for 2010.
If it's a duckbill nose like the Merc Ferrari will start sweating
QUOTE (undersquare @ Jan 29 2010, 09:59)
If it's a duckbill nose like the Merc Ferrari will start sweating
Id be sweating harder if it looked like the merc.. considering its the 09 car
QUOTE (teejay @ Jan 29 2010, 09:07)
Id be sweating harder if it looked like the merc.. considering its the 09 car
Overexcited
Thinking of the Williams.
It better be good, cuz I'll make it but desperately need sleep (ya, very sad.. 
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why dont they give us a twitpic of the 25 with its cover on
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 29 2010, 12:27)
why dont they give us a twitpic of the 25 with its cover on
You are absolutely right. It's only 1 1/2 hour away. They should do it
Just a few final touches and mp4-25 is ready to go for launch
http://img.youtube.com/vi/jL6bhSDGa1I/0.jpg
http://img.youtube.com/vi/jL6bhSDGa1I/0.jpg
they copied the santander white wings - god damn it, I thought we had learnt after 07!
Woot?
edit: Yaddayaddayadda ... first impression much better than last year!
edit 2: These are some tiny sidepods!
edit 3: Bet Ron is going ballistic when finding out that a photo was leaked!
edit: Yaddayaddayadda ... first impression much better than last year!
edit 2: These are some tiny sidepods!
edit 3: Bet Ron is going ballistic when finding out that a photo was leaked!
QUOTE (F1zoro @ Jan 29 2010, 18:49)
u da bom
QUOTE (F1zoro @ Jan 29 2010, 09:49)
Woah, that looks sick and very aggressive!
QUOTE (F1zoro @ Jan 29 2010, 10:49)
Damn! This is something new from McLaren! Totally different than Ferrari & Williams!!!
Oh god, I hate single strut rear wings.
QUOTE (bonjon1979 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:53)
Woah, that looks sick and very aggressive!
And ugly too! At least from that photo
QUOTE (F1zoro @ Jan 29 2010, 09:49)
F1zoro. you are a legend.
Looks like it has the anvil wing/fin
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