Well PF2 was the wrong setup direction so FP1 is a better guide by the sound of it. Parts still arriving at 01:30 this morning means the learning curve is seriously steep. Overnight could change a lot of things.

But 3rd and 4th would be a good outcome from the weekend anyway I think. Lots of more suitable tracks coming up.

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great pictures lol

There was posted a picture earlier, I don't remember for what qualifying or race, but it was an LH-ed 'Obama' with a "Chill the **** out! I got this!" caption.

That picture might be ready for tomorrow, just in case. It would fit in if an MP4-25 got into the second row.

As I said even after Montreal, Silverstone will be Red Bull's race to lose.

yea that was during pre-season testing, thats were the emotions roller-coaster started

Fair to say that it was an interesting day.

Red Bull look very, very strong but I am not concerned about the apparent problems with the MP4-25. Lewis was quick but erratic this morning whereas both drivers seemed to struggle for pace in the afternoon. Exactly like Canada IIRC.

Our guys have some work to do to get the set up right but we will be in the hunt, I think.

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The fastest man of the day, Webber, predicts - McLaren aren’t showing everything today. I think they’re waiting to unleash the car tomorrow.

IIRC he said the same back in Istanbul. That's a good sign.

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Don't you think he's just saying this to alleviate the pressure on Red Bull/himself and put some more on McLaren to perform tomorrow?

It's one thing to sandbag, but to sandbag and plow Silverstone's grass and soil for 90 minutes is another.

Ofcourse, but that's always the case. I'm just saying, in Istanbul they came back as well, proved to be the quickest overall, and won.

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/7/11001.html

sounds pretty positive, no?

I'd love it if Silverstone was a repeat of Turkey.

I want to see McLaren for once in front of RBR at an RBR track.

AMUS writes that the technicians discuss to go back to the old config.
Some parts at the back became very hot, the bump at T11 doesn´t help either as it was very unexpecting for the team.
The car is ok with heavy fuel but hard to handle with low fuel.

You only need to look at the car visually. It's unstable under braking and very unstable in high speed corners especially when there are bumps. The Red Bull by comparison is positively serene. That's why Hamilton is going off. He's trying to find speed that isn't there.

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InsideFerrari A reasonable session with a lot of things to do. Red Bull is very strong as expected, other teams eventually covered their real performance
about 4 hours ago

you the person off f1 technical who for the frist half of the year said Mclaren where rubbish and where not going to be able to match redbull let alone get pole etc and keept saying the Mp4-25 could not do this or that and it was slow,

and said the same sort of things above every race weekend

9 times out of 10 you ended up being wrong lol

Well this is the first time I've been nervous for Saturday practice!!! It's only set-up today, I have faith in the McLaren engineers to give a unbreakable car tomorrow.

They're the best in the business after all

I love mood swings lol makes for fun reading!!!

Proof?

http://www.autosport.com/results.php?s=0&y=2010&c=1

If they referring to McLaren is true in theory (they are not THAT slow) - but even if they went as fast as they could it doesn't seem faster than Ferrari perhaps.

AMuS says engineers are analysing the data tonight - if the decision is made to go back to the old config then it will be done through the night. Some components got too hot, the rear was unstable - especially under braking. The car is good with lots of fuel but very difficult when the car is light. Hamilton went off 7 times.

Not a brilliant upgrade so far - shame really - cause visually the upgrade looked 'fast'.

We shall know in 3rd Practice. Amus isn't always correct.

lol loved that

They just quoted Button and Whitmarsh

Ferrari WCC - 16
McLaren WCC - 8

Wooooooops!

Welcome to high school kids!

They can't rebuild the car to old package between FP3 and Qualifying. There's not enough time.

AMuS isn't saying they are going to revert - they are saying the engineers are discussing it now as a serious option.

Ferrari - Debut 1950 Monaco Grand Prix - Races competed 802 - 16 WCC. 15 WDC

McLaren - Debut 1966 Monaco Grand Prix - Races competed 675 - 8 WCC, 12 WDC

Wooooooops!

Get out.

Thats why I said 3rd practice as they will either have the new or old car on show.

I suspected the mclaren mood meter to be incredibly broken tonight. it is.

They will be okay tomorrow

So Ferrari doubles McLaren's WCC but not the races completed, interesting...

You get out!

Have some fun in Ferraris topic and discuss there why today they are 3th and tomorrow 6/7/8th.

what are you doing? someone gave the opinion that mclaren are the best in the business (talking about the present) and you've tried to argue that by pointing out past success of ferrari

by your logic williams are a better team than red bull right now

I want to play! I want to play!

Yes, but the Ferrari's are red and the McLaren's are silver.........

You guessed it..............................here it comes!........................................soooooooooooooooooooo

You get out!

question, howmany WDCs and WCC are infected with veto rights?

the mood here was down after Canada Fp1 and 2 too...

its probably a bit more tricky to get things right overnight this time, but lets wait and see...

as for Massacrator n co, lol...u remind me of some Ferrari fans that taunted Mclaren fans abit during preseason testing, we've been sipping your milkshake ever since.

McLaren debuted in Formula 1 16 years later.

Drivers' title is the more important, considering e.g. how 'happy' Ferrari was in Interlagos in 2008. McLaren has 12 to Ferrari's 15, despite started competing in F1 much later. Add to that McLaren raced in Can-Am too, winning 5 titles, in an era when it was as prestigious as F1 (just check the notable drivers and its history). Even Ferrari attempted Can-Am with little succes; 0 Can-Am title and 0 Triple Crown!

McLaren is the only racing team having the Triple Crown. To date, no other manufacturer has won the Formula 1 World Championship, the Indianapolis 500 and Le Mans 24 Hours.

I hope you don't think it's Bruce's fault he born much later than Enzo Ferrari and started racing 'only' when he was 14.

But anyway, we're in 2010. And the subject was 2010 in that post too what you replied to.

I can't say I'm interested in someone with no intelligence or grammar skills and six posts. This is about how the McLaren looked today. If you want to debate that without getting upset, feel free.


Alas, I said Red Bull would have the fastest car and they have - despite the talk of dead zones and RB not having any aerodynamic innovation. A lot of amoebas like yourself got bitterly upset. That's all that happened.

This has to be a troll, very bad (dumb) troll.

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Ahhhh, the team who has won one driver's (and they barely fell over the line for that) and no constructor's championship in what, eleven years? The myth of McLaren as a winning team persists............ I hate to break this to you, but championships don't get awarded after Silverstone.

There's my fun for the day.

So what?
Who cares

eleven years?? so u need to check 1979 between 2000. a team have another nice record there.

Does anyone here know how long Mclaren have been working on their blown diffuser?

Well, my reasoing was just as bad as him proving that McLaren has the best engineers by saying they are leading the WCC.

What am I doing? Having a lot of fun

Looks like Lewis had fun, too despite he was going off sometimes

"I had a big grin on my face when I got to full throttle. It makes a nice difference. I don't know whether it makes as big a difference as perhaps they thought, but it's something that you have to tweak.

"You saw the Ferraris ran theirs at the last race, and it didn't just work. The same for Mercedes, it didn't just work. You don't just bolt it on and it works. It's something you have to adjust.

"At least it's running well. I do feel a difference. The front wing's very good as well, and there's clearly a lot of potential."
......
although he admits is rather bumpy - and he was caught out a few times - Hamilton says he enjoyed.

"It was nice, it is bumpy, probably a bit more bumpy on our car for some reason, so that was we're trying to fix. Otherwise it's very fast, very flowing.

"I don't think it upsets the swing of the track or anything. Like I've said it's a little bit different turning right at Abbey instead of going left into the chicane. But it's still very fast, it's picking up grip bit by bit. There is a big bump going into Turn 11, but that just makes it more exciting.

"Through the couple of hairpins its very slippery. It's low speed compared to the rest of the track, and obviously you set the car up for the high speed corners, but unfortunately that means at the low speed corners you struggle a little bit more, but that's the sacrifice you

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6254028/...ot-Of-Potential

Stirring up and provoking people is called fun? Some people /sigh

they are the best engineers on the grid presently because they are winning...

do you not understand that logic?

point all you want to past success doesn't change the fact your not the best in business right now... mclaren are and thats why they have more WCC points than ferrari (and every other team) and the drivers are further up the standings...

(also you actually have very little of that golden generation existing in ferrari any longer, especially the key components, ferrari is a shadow of its oldself right now)