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TBH, if I was a driver (with a lot of financial backing) wanting to get involved in F1, and I was offered a drive for either Campos or USF1, I'd take an accountant with me. I would also want to see launch dates and a full car. I wouldn't want my sponsors ripped off. Because if the sponsors get ripped off, then the chances of getting into F1 start getting slimmer.
QUOTE (Nustang70 @ Feb 12 2010, 22:12) 
Um...what?
How did you come up with that username, btw?
How did you come up with that username, btw?
Im not quite sure. I wanted something anonymous, so I typed something that felt good with my fingers. Anyway the point is is that a driver/management even considering putting a race career into the hands of such an unsustainable project is not ready for F1, and isn't desirable for F1. Such a driver choice would sum up Campos Meta, really.
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Feb 12 2010, 22:21)
Probably no driver on the market has the sort of money Campos needs to wrap up the team's budget.. plus, on the potential drivers' side, it might be tricky for anyone and his own sponsors to commit to Campos while the team doesn't have the budget to see through the season.
it would be a bit of a catch-22 there..
it would be a bit of a catch-22 there..
I wonder how much of a budget deficit Campos has?
Suposedly Carabantes has paid Dallara. Bernie is covering the travel expenses. I think the last I heard from Cosworth was that everyone was paid up.
QUOTE (Nustang70 @ Feb 12 2010, 17:27)
I wonder how much of a budget deficit Campos has?
Suposedly Carabantes has paid Dallara. Bernie is covering the travel expenses. I think the last I heard from Cosworth was that everyone was paid up.
Suposedly Carabantes has paid Dallara. Bernie is covering the travel expenses. I think the last I heard from Cosworth was that everyone was paid up.
Look at post #943, its about what was written yesterday by a journo with some credibility... so, we are getting conflicting information..
who knows what's really happening..
QUOTE (hihynynhhf @ Feb 12 2010, 22:23)
Im not quite sure. I wanted something anonymous, so I typed something that felt good with my fingers.
Looks like something that Lemuel Gulliver met.
A few days ago were rumors linking soucek with USF1...
QUOTE (racepode1 @ Feb 13 2010, 06:02)
A few days ago were rumors linking soucek with USF1...
Nice link provided. Good Info.
"I can say with pride that we have done a good job in design and development, all safety tests have been passed and production has gone ahead.
Unfortunately, factors outside our control are slowing the process down, but I'm confident that we can find solutions so that our work is not lost."
Gianpaolo Dallara.
http://www.italiaracing.net/mag_dallara/201001/eng/index.asp
Unfortunately, factors outside our control are slowing the process down, but I'm confident that we can find solutions so that our work is not lost."
Gianpaolo Dallara.
http://www.italiaracing.net/mag_dallara/201001/eng/index.asp
Lobato's blog is not a bad source. He's way better than Carlos Miquel in As, that's for sure (and not very hard). I'm usually very harsh with the Spanish media, but the fact is that I use to read Lobato and that means something.
Ted Kravitz ( BBC F1 ) Twitter this afternoon
Spotted: Geoff Willis in Jerez pit lane, rumours linking him to Campos Meta & Dallara...
http://twitter.com/tedkravitz
Spotted: Geoff Willis in Jerez pit lane, rumours linking him to Campos Meta & Dallara...
http://twitter.com/tedkravitz
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Feb 13 2010, 17:46)
Ted Kravitz ( BBC F1 ) Twitter this afternoon
Spotted: Geoff Willis in Jerez pit lane, rumours linking him to Campos Meta & Dallara...
http://twitter.com/tedkravitz
Spotted: Geoff Willis in Jerez pit lane, rumours linking him to Campos Meta & Dallara...
http://twitter.com/tedkravitz
If Campos meta pay off their debts and do get off the ground, they wont go too far wrong with Geoff Willis on board.
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Feb 13 2010, 17:46)
Ted Kravitz ( BBC F1 ) Twitter this afternoon
Spotted: Geoff Willis in Jerez pit lane, rumours linking him to Campos Meta & Dallara...
http://twitter.com/tedkravitz
Spotted: Geoff Willis in Jerez pit lane, rumours linking him to Campos Meta & Dallara...
http://twitter.com/tedkravitz
Once this thread finally slows down I think I'd like to write up a brief summary of all the rumors associated with this team...
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Feb 13 2010, 17:46)
Ted Kravitz ( BBC F1 ) Twitter this afternoon
Spotted: Geoff Willis in Jerez pit lane, rumours linking him to Campos Meta & Dallara...
http://twitter.com/tedkravitz
Spotted: Geoff Willis in Jerez pit lane, rumours linking him to Campos Meta & Dallara...
http://twitter.com/tedkravitz
I thought Geoff Willis was with Red Bull.
QUOTE (robracer @ Feb 13 2010, 20:25)
I thought Geoff Willis was with Red Bull.
He left last year.
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Feb 12 2010, 16:06)
Some better news from Campos
But still nothing concrete
- Want Souckek as second driver
- Car is ready
- They will be in Bahrain
- VW rumours were "half true"
- Teixiera out
- Still negotiating with partners
from whats been said in other articles i think the debt to Dallara has been paid by Cabarante, but they are still looking to sell or find more partners.
Campos want Soucek
But still nothing concrete
- Want Souckek as second driver
- Car is ready
- They will be in Bahrain
- VW rumours were "half true"
- Teixiera out
- Still negotiating with partners
from whats been said in other articles i think the debt to Dallara has been paid by Cabarante, but they are still looking to sell or find more partners.
Campos want Soucek
So does this mean that Adrian Campos himself will now still be staying with the team??
Geoff Willis with Campos? Really? Virgin or Lotus maybe, or Dallara, but working for Campos in some sort of role? Well, anything can happen, I guess.
Campos can't have someone else design their car forever.
QUOTE (Nathan @ Feb 14 2010, 01:06)
Campos can't have someone else design their car forever.
What's the point in planning for the future when you can't even guarantee that you have a present?
QUOTE (Nathan @ Feb 14 2010, 02:06)
Campos can't have someone else design their car forever.
why not? If it's in the rules*, as it is now, it is just about the right price for the work.
*rules change whenever FIA wants
QUOTE (Nustang70 @ Feb 14 2010, 06:01)
What's the point in planning for the future when you can't even guarantee that you have a present?
Indeed. What is more interesting is the fact that Geoff Willis is not working for another team, say like Renault, one that has more viability and higher expectations.
A,M u S claims new investor of Campos will be made public in next 24 hours,
but is sceptic about it. Volkswagen new investor is not logical.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en
but is sceptic about it. Volkswagen new investor is not logical.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en
And also Dieter Rencken ( part-time Autosport.com ) informs about new investor
at Campos and has more information about Geoff Willis and Campos
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en
at Campos and has more information about Geoff Willis and Campos
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en
Interesting.
Although im no sure what they were trying to say about Willis in the article.... something about a notebook and what he had written???
looks like Bernie is trying to save Campos and let USF1 fail so that Stefan can get the grid spot.
Although im no sure what they were trying to say about Willis in the article.... something about a notebook and what he had written???
looks like Bernie is trying to save Campos and let USF1 fail so that Stefan can get the grid spot.
What is Geoff Willis's former colleague Gavin Fisher up to?
QUOTE (santori @ Feb 15 2010, 18:48)
What is Geoff Willis's former colleague Gavin Fisher up to?
I think he is not employed by any F1 team anymore.
Mmm, I thought so. I'm surprised that none of the new teams have approached him. Or maybe they have and he's turned them down.
QUOTE (Nustang70 @ Feb 15 2010, 19:54)
I think he is not employed by any F1 team anymore.
Since 2005
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Feb 15 2010, 17:02)
First line says (after Dallara Preparations title) "Complete ONE?" Note the capitals and question mark. A few lines down it then says "fire up".
QUOTE (BullHead @ Feb 15 2010, 19:08)
First line says (after Dallara Preparations title) "Complete ONE?" Note the capitals and question mark. A few lines down it then says "fire up".
More like 'Coughlan'
followed by CAD, CWD, CWP or something like that - capitals/initials I think. And I think its 'Fuel up' followed by 'Power up'.
QUOTE (BullHead @ Feb 15 2010, 14:08)
First line says (after Dallara Preparations title) "Complete ONE?" Note the capitals and question mark. A few lines down it then says "fire up".
Easier To Read
Ah there you go, thanks.
"Complete Cars?
Spares
Fire up
Power up
Off car rigs
Heaters
FIA documents
Impact ... " (probably Impact testing)?
"Complete Cars?
Spares
Fire up
Power up
Off car rigs
Heaters
FIA documents
Impact ... " (probably Impact testing)?
QUOTE (YoungGun @ Feb 15 2010, 19:40)
Definitely "Dallara Preparations". Complete Car?"? "Spares"? "Fire up" "power up" and further down "FIA something or other..."
Don't think much can be made of this. It looks like a list of discussion / meeting points. Hence the story of his involvement / consultation
Maybe Prodrive is taking over... Richards has hired Willis once.;)
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Feb 15 2010, 11:45)
looks like Bernie is trying to save Campos and let USF1 fail so that Stefan can get the grid spot.
I only would accept it if Campos takes over JM López contract to put him racing alonside Bruno Senna.
QUOTE (BullHead @ Feb 15 2010, 19:44)
Ah there you go, thanks.
"Complete Cars?
Spares
Fire up
Power up
Off car rigs
Heaters
FIA documents
Impact ... " (probably Impact testing)?
"Complete Cars?
Spares
Fire up
Power up
Off car rigs
Heaters
FIA documents
Impact ... " (probably Impact testing)?
This is interesting. Presumably, Campos should already be aware of these things. They shouldn't need to hire Geoff Willis at this point to inform them of such matters.
So, perhaps Willis is consulting on behalf of someone else? A potential buyer?
So the rumour says a deal with a new investor, who is not Teixeira, has been reached, to be announce 2moro, and also Geoff Willis might join Campos.
Sounds soooo good, let´s hope it turns out to be true.
Sounds soooo good, let´s hope it turns out to be true.
QUOTE (the9th @ Feb 15 2010, 19:54)
Maybe Prodrive is taking over... Richards has hired Willis once.;)
QUOTE (the9th @ Feb 15 2010, 19:54)
Maybe Prodrive is taking over... Richards has hired Willis once.;)
Is this what we're going for then? Bets for tommorrow? Campos to Prodrive.
QUOTE (the9th @ Feb 15 2010, 19:54)
Maybe Prodrive is taking over... Richards has hired Willis once.;)
It's possible, I guess. They can certainly purchase Campos for less than they offered Renault. Of course, the Enstone facility was much more suitable to Prodrive's aspirations than simply purchasing Campos' entry and rights to the Dallara chassis.
QUOTE (BullHead @ Feb 15 2010, 20:08)
Is this what we're going for then? Bets for tommorrow? Campos to Prodrive.
Honestly, this whole thing is pure supposition; all we've done is note that Prodrive had a past association with Willis, and that Willis has a possible association with Campos.
I know, I know..... it could be anybody though. Just cos he's worked for Dave before doesn't necessarily mean he is now. Speculation is most fun when it's wild. We do know that Geoff has been there (Jerez) and he's making notes, for somebody's benefit.
QUOTE (the9th @ Feb 16 2010, 06:54)
Maybe Prodrive is taking over... Richards has hired Willis once.;)
I doubt it - Richards has said that Formula 1 is "not relevant", so I doubt he's interested in it anymore.
Campos investor is set to become clear on Tuesday. Sources indicate that Jose Ramon Carabante has increased his interest and Carlos Sainz, who attended the Valencia test with his son is rumoured to be involved through a potential Volkswagen link. The German manufacturer eyes no official involvement as yet though. Andy Soucek would be confirmed second driver shortly after.
QUOTE (Nustang70 @ Feb 15 2010, 20:11)
It's possible, I guess. They can certainly purchase Campos for less than they offered Renault. Of course, the Enstone facility was much more suitable to Prodrive's aspirations than simply purchasing Campos' entry and rights to the Dallara chassis.
prodrive's aspirations were to have cars handed to them by mclaren and mercedes. the switch to dallara and cosworth, for the immediate future, isn't such a different proposition. perhaps they can also bring VW into it, use VWs in the Aston's and a VW engine in F1 - badged Aston - from 2013 and the new regs. Maybe with their own car too. Spend one year as Campos Meta Cosworth, the next couple as Volkswagen Prodrive Cosworth, then Aston Martin powered by VW.
Shouldn't be difficult in the meantime to upgrade Prodrive's current base to look after what the Campos one is meant to do.
Still, I wouldn't bet on it!
And now this: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...=auto&tl=en
QUOTE
Formula 1 circles, waiting for a Spanish Adrian Campos announce in the next few days that Campos, a meta-stable will leave the company to join the World Cup series.
Campos has promised to publish a long F1-saving project investors. When negotiations with donors have not led to anything, the team is forced to abandon their plans.
Dallara factory has been working since Friday to again, but apparently the car will be continued by someone other than Campos equip.
According to rumors, top designer Geoff Willis would be entering a Dallara bread.
Campos' site is ready for the Grand Prix of Stefan the Serb team, which has informed the test equipment, 25-28.helmikuuta Portimao.
Turun Sanomat
HEIKKI GOLD
Campos has promised to publish a long F1-saving project investors. When negotiations with donors have not led to anything, the team is forced to abandon their plans.
Dallara factory has been working since Friday to again, but apparently the car will be continued by someone other than Campos equip.
According to rumors, top designer Geoff Willis would be entering a Dallara bread.
Campos' site is ready for the Grand Prix of Stefan the Serb team, which has informed the test equipment, 25-28.helmikuuta Portimao.
Turun Sanomat
HEIKKI GOLD
Theres any finish around here to translate Tarun Sonomat´s article? I really cant understand this google translation!
QUOTE (beckenlima @ Feb 15 2010, 23:51)
Theres any finish around here to translate Tarun Sonomat´s article? I really cant understand this google translation!
You don't understand what it means to enter a Dallara bread?
....
....
Good, neither do I.
QUOTE
The Bells Of Death are ringing at Campos.
A summary of the article:
- It is expected that Adrian Campos will announce in the next few days that the Campos Meta team will have to give up its attempt to take part in the World Championship.
- Negotiations with investors have not lead to anything.
- Work has been done at the Dallara factory again since Friday but supposedly the building work of the car is continued to equip someone else than Campos.
- According to rumours Geoff Willis would be joining Dallara.
- Stefan GP, which has announced that they will be testing in Portimao on 25-28 February, is ready to replace Campos.
A summary of the article:
- It is expected that Adrian Campos will announce in the next few days that the Campos Meta team will have to give up its attempt to take part in the World Championship.
- Negotiations with investors have not lead to anything.
- Work has been done at the Dallara factory again since Friday but supposedly the building work of the car is continued to equip someone else than Campos.
- According to rumours Geoff Willis would be joining Dallara.
- Stefan GP, which has announced that they will be testing in Portimao on 25-28 February, is ready to replace Campos.
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