Campos still dreams with De la Rosa alongside Senna
Edit: By the way, it looks like the talks with Petrobras were not productive.

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Campos also justified the reasons why not also signed with Nelsinho Piquet. "I do not close the door on him. We've talked, but this year it will not be possible. It is bad to have two pilots of the same nationality on the team. They are in the same market and compete for the same sponsors."


I think Campos has forgotten that in the past there has been a very succesfull F1 team with two Brazilian F1 drivers, who in their first race scored the first 1-2 ever for their team.............and the next year had a car Brazilian flag ( green and yellow ) orientated

Nelson Piquet and Roberto Moreno at Benetton F1 in 1990 and 1991 !

I think he's just being diplomatic.

Despite no entry, Stefan GP working on TF110 car
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp...53813&FS=F1

Auto Motor und Sport said experts believe the entries currently occupied by Campos and USF1 would be the most likely to become available.

I thought they would make it to the grid.
Are they havig some uncertainties about their F1 project?

I think it's just the lack of informations coming out. Both Lotus and Virgin have confirmed their driver line-ups and have done some pretty slick footwork in between. All we know about Campos is that they've signed Senna and that their car is supposedly on schedule. And that they're still talking to de la Rosa (but the rhetoric suggests it's a hurry-up to Petrov and Maldonado to show the money).

and they have passed crash-test to some monocoque estructure (i dont know the exact name of it).

I think is just BS from stefanGP press office trying to force FIA (or mr.E ) to brake some contract. IMO.

The French site TomorrownewsF1 quotes Antonio Lobato as saying that Campos urgently needs money and lacks sponsorship. The site adds that according to its sources the situation is very serious - that Téléfonica will be satisfied with sponsoring the two Spanish races and that sponsors interested in the Spanish market all want to work with Alonso.

Is that enough to brake some serious contract? Come on, don't be so naive and attacking on SGP.

SGP is just working with determination and hope. It's not in their power to make other team to fail. That team, Campos or USF1 (or both) will fail on its own, if it'll happen at all.

I start to think that Bruno has been outwitted for the second time

Unusual for Lobato to be reporting something bad about a Spanish team.

If it's true, then why the hell are Campos still talking with Pedro de la Rosa? It's known that he doesn't have anywhere near the sponsor support of the likes of Petrov and Maldonado, both of whom are said to have as much as twenty million dollars in reserve ...

They're not really talking with Pedro, just have said about Pedro, he would be their ideal driver if he had a lot of money. That 'rumor' or comment also shows they are badly after money.

Really? I was reading it as more of a hurry-up for Petrov and Maldonado to get their act together. If both of them have twenty million in sponsor money and Campos needs it, it would explain a lot. It could well be that they had projcted to start receivng that money by now, but they haven't.

Before it was rumoured that Petrov had as much $ as the proposed budget cap But quite likely it wasn't true, anyway, if Venezuela officials stop the backing for the hopeless Milka Duno in Indycar/NASCAR/LeMans/whatevershedreamsof, then Maldonado will surely have quite a substantial budget. I guess the Milka's sponsorships was largely responsible for fielding Mike Conway and Tomas Schecter ;)

notsure if the limits are per day, or month or season, teams would want to use up there alication as soon as possible, specially a new team

That's something that has worried me.
But Campos was already sure that he wouldn't have money from Telefónica, that's why they can't sign PdlR.

Sorry but I don't understand the connection between PDLR and Telefonica.
If I'm not wrong, the problem was between Repsol (PDLR) and Petrobras or others (Gazprom and PDVSA).

As I have understood so far, Petrobras was never really interested.
In fact, Campos coma to Brazil trying to make a deal, but AFAIK, it has never materialized.
Petrobras wanted a deal with a manufacturer, but and there reports of talkings with Red Bull.
Embratel/Telmex is Bruno's sponsor that is related to the team.

Repsol are already linked with Alguersuari.
As Campos said in a interview, there were no interest from any Spanish companies to sponsor PdlR, not Telefónica, nor Repsol, et cetera.
That's why Gazprom and PDVSA was on the frame, as the team didn't have any other big sponsor than the Murcia government.

For now, I have the feeling the Bruno signed too early with Campos, and that is damaging him as is damaging the team itself on their search from sponsors.

Edit: I must add, that this whole Telefónica thing sounds more like journo's speculation or it was a Adrian's proposed plan rather than real interest from the company. Specially because they have already a partner from the telecom business with Embratel.

Repsol is not linked with Alguersuari anymore....in fact they will not in any 4 wheels competition just bikes....

Pedro has a sponsor, Campos has not, yes Mango but not the main one yet....there is not any interest from spanish companies in Campos for the time being....yes in Pedro

Telefonica never said about sponsoring Campos

Thanks for that!


That's how I've got it too.
No spanish sponsor was interested at having him at Campos.


Pure internet's delusional dream them, thanks to make it clear.

sorry I missunderstood

you are welcome

Not so. He is announced test driver on their website.

I never liked Campos but honestly speaking I´would really like to see Campos Meta in....( I´d prefer Epsilon x1000, but...)

The reality is that today in Spain we are in one of the biggest sh*ts ever with the famous crisis, riches countries in Europe, north Europe are almost recovering, but here guys we´ll need 2 or 3 years minimun to recover.......

So not easy now for Campos to look for money in Spain, the historycal sponsors like Repsol, Telefonica are not interested now in F1 and the relatively new and big one Santander has his money with FA and Ferrari......it is true that Santander in Spain is not just Santander they´ve other spanish banks under their umbrella and maybe for the domestic market could be interesting to put their money in the "spanish team"....I´m sure if the small guy mr Emilo Botin (Santander) see a light of bussines he´ll do it, he is even worst than Bernie, well, I do not know

Same for me, unfortunately.

Thanks for clarifications.

I think Bruno needs a serious management before it's too late.

Campos Meta car will be black



From: http://www.laopiniondemurcia.es/comunidad/...gro/218766.html

Best Regards

Is it going to look like that, with the airbox the wrong way round?

The guy who drew that knows nothing about the sport. This is not even within the FIA rules and not going to work.

You need to take a close look at the dates of posts you are replying to. That one was dated the 6th of December, a full 8 days before Virgin made their announcement.


I have a bad feeling that Campos won't make it to the start of the season, and if they do, they won't make the end of it. This would be a shame, especially for Bruno Senna, he is one of the most naturally talented drivers I have seen and it would be interesting to see how well he could do in an F1 car.

Is black the new blue-and-white? Virgin are probably going to be running a black car, too. And Sauber could very well return to their early-1990s guise ...

don,t worry mate
Campos is the first car who pass all FIA homologation tests for 2010 ..( even Mercedes GP faill in homologation of cockpit ....)
they will have most radical car in the grid

But do they have the budget, that's what i'm concerned about.

The Formula One commercial rights-holder revealed that he expects two of the four new teams with sanctioned grid slots for next season — Campos F1 and USF1 — not to make it.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/for...icle6964463.ece

How recent is that photo?

photo from more than month ago....

IIRC, November 14th.

From the above link to Times Online:


So, why were they accepted at the occasion?

Because they chose Cosworth. I think the money sent to Cosworth isn't refundable.

First, Bernie says his former and current assumption, also not him did the selection process. And despite anyone having disbelief in whatever team, that doesn't mean that team must fail.

Second, Campos and US F1 are still officially in for 2010.

it was a rhetorical question, I'm not taking his word as the gospel truth.
Thing is with this "we expected" and "we thought" show us a lot about the Concorde Agreement.

Moreover, I would like to know what are the criteria to join the FOTA. Or maybe it's better to ask what is FOTA, forasmuch as Campos and USF1 are both part of it.

I have no words...

To have a grid slot?

The silence of the team about Ecclestone's commentary is disturbing me.

Perhaps I expressed myself badly.

I would understand on what basis the FOTA agree to its members. I hope at least that Bruno and Dallara have taken the necessary precautions.

No, you expressed yourself quite well. My answer was 'just that', no criteria, no checking, no nothing.

It's a sad-sad situation and it's getting more and more absurd...

There's no reason to be so dramatic: Ecclestone is not God, he doesn't know everything and he has said stupid things is the past. Perhaps he's trying to push Campos and Windsor to show their game. Campos' main problem is the budget, but they have a car. I guess they can start the season and try to find in the meantime all the money they could be lacking. We have seen teams in the recent past with sponsorship issues that could put out a more-than-a-year campaign before dissapearing, like Super Aguri, which didn't seem to have more important backup than Honda's. Besides, if Bruno Senna and his sponsors signed a contract with them, I wnat to think it's this way, because, we have to think those sponsors secured where the heck were they going to put their valuable money...

Not dramatic, concerns existed before Ecclestone opened up his mouth.

As you said, the car will be ready and may be even better than the likes of Lotus or Virgin.
Sponsorship is the problem. Bruno only brings Embratel, and until the present moment there's no sign of any other Brazilian investment nor other sponsors besides the city of Murcia.
That's why there's the doubt about the second seat. Petrov or Maldonado would solve this thing but I am with this feeling that there isn't interest in placing any of those driver at Campos. Just like has happened with PdlR.

Super Aguri 2008 is the kind of thing that I have in mind.

Or if Adrian Campos is clever, he won't want to start a hopeless business plan based only on wishful-thinking, and giving up might just be the most sensible thing.

Of course, I hope it doesn't happen and that Campos manages to pull off a solid team.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/8427020.stm

Campos tells BBC Sport the team will be there

The business plan was for a budget-capped scenario.
Campos have being pretty vocal about the sort of financial problems that the adopted regulations brought to the outfit.
Reporting that some partners wanted to jump ship.

And the 'tour' for sponsor hunting in Brazil didn't impressed many journalists neither.

Just in time.



It's down to PDVSA or Gazprom.

I hope it...

Yep, that's why I said it was a hopeless business plan, obviously not Adrian's fault, but...