Ha Ha Good stuff. As a driver you have to be able to handle some criticism. And i was criticised in my time, a lot.

However in all seriousness, Campos will be my favorite new team, especially if Senna and Petrov are driving for them. Hope they make it. I would have loved to drive for a racer like Campos, who like me, is a true big balled racer. I've got big balls, they're such big balls, Dirty Big Balls, and Hes got big balls, and shes got big balls. But we've got the biggest balls of them all.

But they are not big enough for you to identify yourself.

All this talk of criticism and hairy balls makes me think you're Max Mosley. He was a driver once. How's retirement suiting you, Max?

FormerF1Driver has been a good addition to the board.

I was at the Canadian 2008 Grand Prix, sitting that the Pits Hairpin. Piquet never took the same line, some other drivers were a little off on occasion. The front runners had it figured out by Friday and were on rails from then on. The difference between Alonso and Piquet in the same car was VERY noteworthy.

Piquet is not without talent, but the situation at Renault, and I think his mental makeup made that the worst possible place to start his F1 career. I have no problems with him getting a seat again, I just do not really expect anything special. He is however experienced, 2 seasons of F1 (well 1 and a 1/2) and a full season testing before that.

In my view then de la Rosa should not be considered anymore if he is basically holding out for other seats, more money. It is equally stupid by Campos Meta1, as it is for USF1 to select drivers based on them coming from a specific country. If you want to make any sort of impact, then go with the best drivers available, even if that mean two F1 rookies.

Petrov and Senna would double the budget, and they are no slouches in a racing car, and none of the new teams can realistically expect to be the 'Brawn' of 2010.

Petrov's major advantage is that if anyone can bring Campos success, it's him. He drove for them in GP2, and while Campos might have been sold and re-named Barwa Addax, I can't imagine that everyone stayed there. And if they did, I don't think it would be too hard to poach the same people into the F1 team. Petrov knows Campos and Campos know Petrov. He can instantly fit in with the team because he's already got that relationship. It's a major drawcard for the Russian, and while Bruno Senna might be able to bring an extra ten millon in sponsorship funding, he doesn't have that relationship.

Campos is interested in PDLR by the same reasons as USF1 has shown interest in him or Alex Wurz, so not just by his nationality. He also does not bring any sponsor with him. He was a "pay driver" at Arrows (Repsol sponsorship), but never again.

As other drivers, PDLR is just waiting (in order not to make a wrong decision).

IMHO.

Well, obviously they want him because of his experience, but his nationality does help his cause.

It's gotta be Petrov and Senna but I feel Campos wants PDLR above all (Spanish and experienced). The fact he considers Piquet shows he cares about business (Piquet would bring his money) rather than the driver's image and the problems he might bring with him (Piquet Sr...).

I'd be quite disappointed with Campos if he signs Piquet. What Piquet did was awful, not so much because he crashed on purpose (you can forgive him because of his situation then, more ore less) but because he informed once he was fired, you fire me I go to the FIA. He was fired because he was driving shit and he was a burden. You can give a driver several chances but in this business you can't wait 2 seasons since he decides to show he is worth anything. He had 2008 and 2009 and he proved nothing but he can't deliver.

Edit: PDLR is quite unlikely, the guy keeps dreaming season after season McLaren will give him a chance... he will never learn. He will keep waiting and Campos will prolly have both drivers confirmed.

I fixed it for you. You're welcome....

He did, but only in his dreams.

It's amazing that they can have a budget of 48 million on the first year. How can they design, build the car and have all the investments that other teams have done years ago, amazing!

They can not have what all the existing teams have, they can however build and field car in accordance with the rules and regulations, the competitiveness of that car is another question all together.

Logo and Executive Committee added to the FOTA website.

Looks all silvery ... I likes.

Good stuff

Campos+Senna+Petrov + Real racing men and real big balled racers. I like it

With Senna and Petrov, they should rename the team Campos Mega. They will have the strongest lineup on the grid, apart from Alonso/Massa

Uh, what? Senna and Petrov might be good, but I think you'd be hard-pressed for them to beat Button/Rosberg, Hamilton/Whoever and possible Barrichello/Hulkenberg. At the most, I'd say they'd be able to make Campos the best of the new teams and Toro Rosso and maybe Force India (depending on how Malya's squad do), but anything more would be wishful thinking.

Although I'm not aiming this at you - no shit, Sherlock!
Two rookies being the second strongest pairing on the grid is just fantasy - just like the identity of the original perpetrator!

It's fun to give FormerF1Driver just enough rope to hang himself, and then watch him do exactly that.

Can a GP2 car modified in such way that it suits F1 reg?

I mean this question has NOTHING to do with Campos tho...

No chance, F1 drivers have strong necks. Like me a former one, im a big balled racer like Campos mega.

I'd say they could it if they really tried, but they don't exactly have one lying around. Campos sold the team to Alessandro Agag last year or the year before. I'm not sure what he did in the interim; maybe he started planning a Formula One team. After all, we knew the grid was being opened up some time last season.

It'd be so riddled with compromises that you might as well just start from scratch anyway.

And you'd also need to own the intellectual property rights to the original design. That was a big sticking point in the customer car debate as the customer car teams didn't own the IP.

This Spanish site says the drivers are going to be Senna and De la Rosa.

Speaking of Campos, that wouldn't be a problem, as Dallara provide the chassis. But in general, that's what I think, too. They can't just pick a chassis made by some other company, modify it slightly and race it.

And I do honestly think any constructor even thinking this shouldn't have a place in F1. I think it's possible to modify a GP2 car to comply with F1 techreg (probably even pretty easily), but considering the car is already 5-10 secs off the pace (note that GP2 has worse tyres!), it would hardly pay off. Making the F1-spec wings work properly with other aero design would be very difficult. IIRC, some older backmarker cars were actually based on F2/F3000 designs, and - surprise - were highly unsuccessful...

Coincidence or not, their web site has returned to a much more simpler version.

Campos would have to own the IP of the original car, in this case the GP2 car. The way they get around that for the F1 car is that it's a design owned by Campos with Dallara as a "technical partner". This was similar to the case of the original STR and Super Aguri cars that were based on the designs of Red Bull and Honda respectively. Since STR and Aguri didn't own the IP to the designs on which those cars were based, they were considered customer cars.

Since when have we been in the business of trusting Spanish websites?

Well, I don't know what's the credibility of Motor21, but it's not As or Marca. Besides, this is about a spanish team, you'd expect the spanish to be the first to know.

If Bruno Senna has already signed for Campos, why is he testing for Renault once the season is over?

campos could become renault's satelite team

bruno is that you???????

ladies and gentelmen, users of autosport board, let me present you

FormerF1driver, his name is Bruno Castello

he is funny guy

There are easier ways to estabish a satellite team, especially since all the new teams are said to be using Coswroth engines for the next three years. Besides, Senna owes no alleigance to either team, and he's believed to be in talks with other teams as well.

If Bruno have already signed, and since the Campos Meta1 car is not ready it makes all the sense in the world to me, that Bruno gets testing in a current model F1, at no cost to Campos Meta1.

Why would Renault agree to that? Campos never said their car would be ready by now; they haven't even given a date as to when they expect to make their on-track debut. There's no reason for Renault to agree to it, especially if the talk of their wanting to back out and stay on as an engine supplier is true.

Why are you all so eager to believe these reports?

Renault has, like every other team, a couple days where they can only test with rookies. It makes sense to evaluate someone with potential even if they're going to be signed by another team - it's relevant info for future silly seasons.

Adrian has said a couple of time the car should be ready for on-track test for the end of January.

I'm sensing a whole lot of 'if' coming into this. There's more to suggest the Spaniards are simply making thing up again than to say they're right.


My bad then.

Looks like Bruno Senna's struck a deal to drive for Campos for 2010. According to this from Motorsport Magazin.

So Could Renault Sell IP and the chassis of 2009 car to Campos and Campos modify it to fit bigger fuel tank, would it be a possibility?

Still Campos do have to choose small driver to compensate the lack of space required to fit 180l fuel tank and so on, that would be a too much mess.

Rather Renault sells IP on 2009 aero to Campos and they start from there with the help of chassis builder...?

Maybe, but I still have my doubts - the first paragraph reads as if it the author has taken the Spanish running the stories as proof that it's true.

I am not saying that he is either or.

It makes sense for Campos if Senna is signed.

It may or may not make sense for Renault, however Senna have been confirmed as doing the test.

Why do YOU have such problems in this?

The GP2 car weighs almost 700 kilos without the driver, the weight limit in F1 with the driver is 600 (usually using ballast to bring it up to the required weight. Assuming your driver weighs at least 70 kilos that means they would need to shave off 170 kilos from the car, whilst simultaneously strengthening the cars crash structures. Shedding a Kilo from an F1 car requires hundreds of hours of FE and Stress analysis work.
Heck taking 170KG out of Joint Strike Fighter took BAE Systems, Rolls Royce and Lockheed Martin's best brains months to achieve!

I don't have a problem with Senna signng for Campos. In fact, I welcome the move.

What I have a problem with is people believing the Spanish press as soon as they print something, despite their history of blatant tabloid-isms, like making things up.

So I'm not going to go jumping for joy over this the way everyone else has. I'm going to wait for someone like Autosport to confirm it first.

M'kay....

Guess we are not answering / harping on the same questions then.

I just think that de la Rosa would be a bad move for Campos Meta1

I've said it before, and I'll likely say it again: Vitaly Petrov should be a slam-dunk for Campos. He knows the team, he's worked with them before. If anyone can get the most out of them, it's Petrov, and they can get more out of him than any other team.

I find it significant that de la Rosa dragged his feet when Campos were going to make an announcement at Valencia, and now he's said to be holding things up again. I can't imagine Camops would want him so badly that he has infinite patience.

I do not understand he wants him.

I especially do not understand that he would allow Pedro to hold things up.

Agree on Petrov, think that both Petrov and Senna have shown enough to be given a shot at F1, no need to have drivers who never made it past the middle of the field, and are now aging take seats.